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Originally Posted by
thekmann 
No it definitely is not that as the Urlacher figure if IIRC is laying out in the air in that set. The Briggs figure is in a rushing pose with both arms outreached to grab Manning who is in a throwing posture.
here is the url/favre one:( not laying out)
Brett Favre - Brian Urlacher
Name:Series:Brand:Team:Brett Favre - Brian Urlacher NFL Two-Pack McFarlane Green Bay Packers - Chicago BearsPosition:Reg / Var / ChaseIssued:Size:Description:
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 here is the url/favre one:( not laying out)
Brett Favre - Brian Urlacher
Name:Series:Brand:
Team:Brett Favre - Brian Urlacher NFL Two-Pack McFarlane Green Bay Packers - Chicago BearsPosition:Reg / Var / ChaseIssued:Size:Description:
That's a nice set also, but no both Manning and Briggs were in different postures in the set I saw. Damn I wish I could find it, however I have my browser set to clear my history when it closes so no chance of retracing my footsteps so to speak. Now that I do a search for it I can't get that website. My feeling is that it was a custom paint set as I see no official Briggs from Mcfarlane. I wish the company would stop with the repaints to represent another player it really cheapens them. I don't mind a repaint/reissue of the same player in home/away jersey or even when the player goes to another team like the Julius Peppers one. I just don't like it when they use an original sculpt of a certain player and then paint it up to represent another player, that's just wrong and cheap marketing. They need to do a completely new sculpt for each player and also stop with all the multiple releases of the same players when they haven't even made one of a certain player like Briggs and many others. I guess that is why their sales have gone done over the years.
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K-mann, trust me, todd mcfarlane probably hates it even more!.. he doesn't authorize those 'repaints" , people and sites do it illegally themselves( ala the briggs one you got), some are pretty good and others not so much..its got to really fustrate him, that so many of his figures are 'redone" into other players
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 K-mann, trust me, todd mcfarlane probably hates it even more!.. he doesn't authorize those 'repaints" , people and sites do it illegally themselves( ala the briggs one you got), some are pretty good and others not so much..its got to really fustrate him, that so many of his figures are 'redone" into other players
nah, Todd McFarlane doesnt seem to mind (they do have to buy his figures to begin with, after all):
In the September 2004 issue of Beckett Hockey, Todd says “I think that it’s cool and interesting that our fans are using our figures as a base for their own creativity.” He goes on to talk specifically about selling customs “In general, I have no problem unless someone is trying to pass a custom off as some sort of official McFarlane action figure.”
http://www.sportslizard.com/article17.php Honestly, i think this falls under "fair use" for artistic endeavors. The legality of it is the actual sports teams themselves (using their trademarked logos and uniforms).
“I’ve interviewed most of the big licensors during the past 15 years of this column. Original artwork of anyone is fine and does not require a license as long as there is only one of them. In other words, if an artist paints a picture of anyone famous, he/she can sell it without paying that person any royalties or licensing fees. As soon as there is more than one, the licensing kicks in. The rights of the person in question, also kicks in. This spells cash owed to someone.”
*edit* Yeah db, you have to remember that McFarlane is first and foremost an artist, so he can respect what people are doing as a form of art. Lol, i mean he did makes his bones by essentially re-creating the iconic Spider-man
Last edited by Jimmors; 06-13-2011 at 04:52 PM.
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There does tend to be a fine line between originality and forgery in the world of art.
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Originally Posted by
Jimmors nah, Todd McFarlane doesnt seem to mind (they do have to buy his figures to begin with, after all):
Honestly, i think this falls under "fair use" for artistic endeavors. The legality of it is the actual sports teams themselves (using their trademarked logos and uniforms).
*edit* Yeah db, you have to remember that McFarlane is first and foremost an artist, so he can respect what people are doing as a form of art. Lol, i mean he did makes his bones by essentially re-creating the iconic Spider-man
Interesting, thanks for the quote- its kinda suprising, but then again mcfarlane is out there at times( his spawn stuff for example)
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 Interesting, thanks for the quote- its kinda suprising, but then again mcfarlane is out there at times( his spawn stuff for example)
Out there? I think it makes sense. As i said, hes an artist...so he has respect for people being artistic, even if they use his figures to do so. As a businessman, hes ok with it since they have to purchase his products to do it. And as he said, his only issue is if people try to pass something off as an official McFarlane product or something, which makes sense. Its not as if he has a personal attachment to each and every figure that leaves his warehouse or something.
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Originally Posted by
Jimmors Out there? I think it makes sense. As i said, hes an artist...so he has respect for people being artistic, even if they use his figures to do so. As a businessman, hes ok with it since they have to purchase his products to do it. And as he said, his only issue is if people try to pass something off as an official McFarlane product or something, which makes sense. Its not as if he has a personal attachment to each and every figure that leaves his warehouse or something.
where it "hurts sales" is if the knock off' are of players you do later and people do not buy them because already had the knockoff( ie before he did a payton, there were many repaints for payton).. but maybe as you seem to think, he doesn't care about that or looking into that angle, just doesn't matter either way too much to me
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Art is like Andy Warhol, who stood on the shoulders of then-modern industrial labels and other forms of art to get to where he was. Essentially, that would describe the dabblings of people who "knock off" images of McFarlane's action figures.
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 where it "hurts sales" is if the knock off' are of players you do later and people do not buy them because already had the knockoff( ie before he did a payton, there were many repaints for payton).. but maybe as you seem to think, he doesn't care about that or looking into that angle, just doesn't matter either way too much to me
I dont think it puts that big of a dent in his sales, since if he makes one later, for one it will be a different figure (different sculpt/pose/era/uniform), so that doesnt preclude collectors from wanting BOTH of them. I mean, lets say i already owned a Lach figure, i would still purchase THIS set because it includes Butkus AND Lach has the throwback uni. Also, collectors like collecting, and most would want an official boxed figure over a repaint (or both). If someone is really into collecting figures, i doubt they would turn down an official figure simply because they already had a repaint similar. Im sure there are some cases where you might be right, but i dont think it would be enough to really dent his sales. lol, also...a new figure creates a new sculpt for people to repaint, so theres still a market for them. ( i can see people repainting this Butkus as Ray Nitschke)
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