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    Mullin: Who's the middle man for the Bears?

    Mullin: Who's the middle man for the Bears?


    The 2011 Bears roster is still in a formative state, forgotten amid the talks and non-talks between the owners and players. The starting center isn’t in place yet. The starting nose tackle from last season isn’t in place. A starting linebacker for the spot next to Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher isn’t in place. Neither is the starting strong safety from last year, although Danieal Manning’s chances of finding work elsewhere, as with Olin Kreutz and Anthony Adams, are problematic once an abbreviated period of free agency finally does commence.

    Expect Pisa Tinoisamoa to get an offer of another one-year contract at strong-side linebacker. His impact wasn’t always as apparent given that his position, like nose tackle, can become a two-down job based on the effectiveness of the defense in creating passing situations on second and third downs. But one coach told CSNChicago.com that Tinoisamoa’s play was thoroughly outstanding the closer everyone looked and this is someone the Bears very definitely want back in '011.

    Same with Adams. The defense is set at three-technique with Henry Melton and rookie Stephen Paea but less so at nose, because Marcus Harrison has never established himself as a consistent NFL player. Matt Toeaina was a starter for part of ‘010 but it was by beating out Tommie Harris three-technique, not for being stout as a nose tackle.

    And Adams wants to stay in Chicago, where he came after several seasons in San Francisco. Some players look forward to getting a shot at another contract in the free market, but “that’s always tough,” Adams said.

    “I’ve been through it one time before and it’s just the nature of the beast, something you’ve got to prepare for. You’ve got to work hard, lift weights, run and all the things you normally do. I welcome the challenge but it’s a necessary evil.”

    “[And] I love it here. I love the fans, my kids were born here and it’s just been great, been fun. I’ve got great teammates, great coaches, no egos. We all get along, play jokes on each other and we support one another with the different foundations, whatever it is. I love it here.”

    Manning may like it here but he didn’t get the multi-year deal he was looking for last year and the Bears didn’t draft safeties in the third rounds of the past two drafts and trade for Chris Harris because they viewed Manning as a long-term solution.

    Interestingly, Pete Prisco at CBSSportsline.com picks Manning as his one “underrated” Bear (http://tinyurl.com/3cjncfa). Have to question Pete on that one. Manning simply improved to “adequate” last year when he was given a starting safety job and left there, but “underrated?” Don’t think so.

    Braylon Watch?

    Besides their own free agents, the Bears are most likely to make a quick play for help at wide receiver once free agency comes. The most intriguing name has quietly become Braylon Edwards, given that Plaxico Burress is a very longshot and several others are very suspect.

    Jason La Canfora at NFL.com reports that the New York Jets aren’t likely to chase Edwards, the No. 3 pick of the 2005 draft by the Cleveland Browns, very enthusiastically, and Jason puts him the dubious group of Cedric Benson, Matt Hasselbeck, Randy Moss and several others that he’d stay away from (http://tinyurl.com/3lt9wt3
    Edwards will bring issues and inconsistent behavior potentially. But Jerry Angelo gambled and won with Muhsin Muhammed, not always viewed as a stellar teammate during his first stint in Carolina. If the risk-reward ratio is right, and chances of that in a short, tight market favor the Bears with Angelo’s record of quick action on targets of opportunity, Edwards becomes a 6-foot-3 threat who has caught as many as 16 TD passes in a season (2007).

    And just how would he look at the end of some Jay Cutler throws?

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    Edwards will bring issues and inconsistent behavior potentially. But Jerry Angelo gambled and won with Muhsin Muhammed, not always viewed as a stellar teammate during his first stint in Carolina. If the risk-reward ratio is right, and chances of that in a short, tight market favor the Bears with Angelo’s record of quick action on targets of opportunity, Edwards becomes a 6-foot-3 threat who has caught as many as 16 TD passes in a season (2007).
    how does moon mullin think moose was a "win" for bears- i'd call him at best an OK pickup, but a dissapointment based on pay VS production. he had 750, 863 and 570 yards here Numbers bennett knox and hester put up now for alot less, do not see the 'win" in that pickup for bears. its stuff like this why had to take mullin serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    how does moon mullin think moose was a "win" for bears- i'd call him at best an OK pickup, but a dissapointment based on pay VS production. he had 750, 863 and 570 yards here Numbers bennett knox and hester put up now for alot less, do not see the 'win" in that pickup for bears. its stuff like this why had to take mullin serious
    Can't agree more DB, not only was Moose a disappointment from a money/production standpoint he became a jerk by throwing not only Rex but Kyle under the bus as well. Then his Chicago is the place for receivers go to die or something to that affect statement wasn't exactly very classy on his part either. Funny how he didn't exactly light it up when he returned to Carolina, guess he was just over the hill and too bitter to admit it so he had to blame others.
    No loss to the Bears as I really like the receivers we have now. I'm not sure how I feel about Edwards. He is a hit and miss type, sometimes he looks incredible and others he looks absolutely horrid. The only reason I see a need for a tall receiver is because of how erratic Cutler can be with his throws. If Jay would improve on his accuracy with regard to ball placement and hit the receivers we have in stride instead of making guys like Bennett have to make the difficult catch all the time I think the Bears would be fine with what they have. You don't see P. Manning, Brady, Rodgers or Rivers have to rely on big receivers or on their guys having to make the spectacular catch time and time again because all those guys hit their receivers in stride most of the time and they therefore get a chance for great YAC, while our guys go up make a tough catch and come straight down and that's it.
    I guess what I'm saying is it wouldn't hurt to have a big,tall very good receiver added to the team but if Jay could just improve on his throwing I don't think it would be as much a need as it would be a luxury.

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    I got no love lost when it comes to MM. Yet I look back at a player like Curtis Conway and feel sorry for him that he got drafted by the Bears. He was a guy that was a fantastic athlete ( even by NFL standards ) and I have no doubt that he could have been a potential HOF player if he had been on a team with a great QB and great offenses. MM would'nt have been.
    Braylon Edwards is worth a try. Ya never know.
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    Braylon Edwards - WR - Jets Comcast SportsNet Chicago's John "Moon" Mullin suggests free agent Braylon Edwards as a possible Bears target when the lockout ends.

    Mullin expects the Bears to make a "quick play" for wide receiver help when free agency opens, and says Edwards has "quietly become the most intriguing name" for Chicago. At 28 years old and 6-foot-3, 215, Edwards would help solve the Bears' need for a tall, playmaking wideout to book end deep threat Johnny Knox. It's worth noting that Bears GM Jerry Angelo was said to be very interested in Edwards prior to the 2005 draft. There was also an internet rumor that the Bears had traded for Edwards in 2009.

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    For me it is all about the dollar amount that comes attached to Braylon Edwards. If he wants #1 WR money [8-10 million] then it is a bad investment. If he wants #2/Rehan my Career money [5-8 million] then I would do it.

    There are 2 truths that still exist about this team,

    1. We desperately need a #1 WR with some size to pair with Jay Cutler.

    2. Braylong Edwards is 6'3" 220lbs and has a ton of talent when his head is on straight.

    I am a YES on Edwards he may be the best option that the Bears have at WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekmann View Post
    Can't agree more DB, not only was Moose a disappointment from a money/production standpoint he became a jerk by throwing not only Rex but Kyle under the bus as well. Then his Chicago is the place for receivers go to die or something to that affect statement wasn't exactly very classy on his part either. Funny how he didn't exactly light it up when he returned to Carolina, guess he was just over the hill and too bitter to admit it so he had to blame others.
    No loss to the Bears as I really like the receivers we have now. I'm not sure how I feel about Edwards. He is a hit and miss type, sometimes he looks incredible and others he looks absolutely horrid. The only reason I see a need for a tall receiver is because of how erratic Cutler can be with his throws. If Jay would improve on his accuracy with regard to ball placement and hit the receivers we have in stride instead of making guys like Bennett have to make the difficult catch all the time I think the Bears would be fine with what they have. You don't see P. Manning, Brady, Rodgers or Rivers have to rely on big receivers or on their guys having to make the spectacular catch time and time again because all those guys hit their receivers in stride most of the time and they therefore get a chance for great YAC, while our guys go up make a tough catch and come straight down and that's it.
    I guess what I'm saying is it wouldn't hurt to have a big,tall very good receiver added to the team but if Jay could just improve on his throwing I don't think it would be as much a need as it would be a luxury.
    exactly, Moose wasn't anything good for team..and just think a tall WR is something we have lacked, so while like bennett, knox and hester, do think a tal WR, esp for red zone would be an assest for Cutler- and cutler seems to like them ala brandon marshall

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    exactly, Moose wasn't anything good for team..and just think a tall WR is something we have lacked, so while like bennett, knox and hester, do think a tal WR, esp for red zone would be an assest for Cutler- and cutler seems to like them ala brandon marshall
    It will be interesting to see if Jerry Angelo goes after Sidney Rice this offseason despite his injury plagued 2010 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    It will be interesting to see if Jerry Angelo goes after Sidney Rice this offseason despite his injury plagued 2010 season.
    think we do make a serious play( and also because it will also hurt a division rival an extra bonus), but the price tag will matter

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    think we do make a serious play( and also because it will also hurt a division rival an extra bonus), but the price tag will matter
    I'm more concerned with getting a solid OG than I am a WR. On that note, I'm not so sure that Sidney Rice's asking price will be all that high since he's only had one really good season.

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