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    BEST Defensive Ends on BEARS- WHO YA GOT?

    Well Seems moon mullin gave up the Series, so figured since been some good debates and discussion, and helps some of the newer fans learn the older players, will continue it, with my Own rankings and discussion:

    Like most "D" positions the bears have a long and storied history at the Defenive end poistion, and just want to put the Caveat of esp the first 30 years of football, really no such thing as the DE, we know today and even until th 1970's sacks wasn't even an official stat, so some of the greatest DE , never get the credit or if try and look up stats, how good they were.Also because they played both "O" and "D" hard to seperate some of the lineman of "O" and "D"

    Top Defensive Ends:

    1. Doug Atkins- Simply the best and esp. for the 1960's a frightning beast of freakish size and a bad temper to boot,just dominated the position for most of decade. At 6'7' 285 back when 6'3" 250 was considered "Big" he had the respect of all.Everyone knew that holding or tripping Doug was an absolute no-no, something akin to committing suicide. When angered, his contemporaries remember, Atkins inflicted the kind of devastation upon enemy lines and quarterbacks that seldom, if ever, has been equaled on any football field. Even when he was playing at his natural "easy-going" pace, the monstrous Tennesseean did his job so well that he is still respected today as a classic defensive end. The Saints' head coach, Tom Fears, summed it up during Atkins' final 1969 season: "They threw away the mold when they made Doug. There'll never be any other like him."

    2. richard dent- Finally the injustice of Dent not making the hall of fame has been rectified this year, and really lookign forward to his Induction in Aug. The classic 1980's DE and pass rusher.

    3. *Dan hampton-"daninal" just the physical beast you want from a "D" line player, and he remarkably was the only player to be a multiple probowler at both DT and DE. He was named to the NFL Team of the ’80’s by the Pro Football Hall of Fame Board of Selectors and was a Pro Bowl performer four times during that decade (1980, 1982, 1984 and 1985), twice as a defensive end and two times as a defensive tackle. Hampton was named Defensive MVP by Pro Football Weekly in 1982 and started the first 48 games of his career where he established himself as a dominant pass rusher, recording 25 sacks during his first three seasons in the league.

    4. Ed Sprinkle- 'the claw".. ed the prototypical DE of the rough and tumble 1940's and 1950's players.. that 90% of his play would never be allowed in today's game. Sprinkle was dubbed "The Meanest Man in Pro Football" in his playing days. He used his left arm in ways that opponents accused him of dirty play, especially after the whistle had sounded to halt the action. There are also those who say he used his cleats to stomp on the opposition

    5.Julius Peppers- while his career in chicago just getting started already leaving his imprint on team, and hopefully before all is said and done , he has moved up the list

    honorable mentions:

    Mike hartenstine, ed O'bradovich, alex brown, adewale ogunleye

    WHO YA GOT?

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    great vid, that says it all if do not know atkins



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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    I believe that Hartenstine was a very underrated player and lost some playing time due to the drafting of William Perry.
    perry was a DT, Like you always liked hartenstine( but was in his 10th year by 1984), but it was actually the drafting of DENT, who he lost his position to- and that is understandable.hartestine was still the starting DE to start 1984, but moving Hampton back to DE to have him and dent be the DE's in 1985/86 was devastating...Another of the underated DE's was Al harris, who had the awful, mistaken judgement to "hold out" the 1985 season with todd bell, and never seen again.. he would have been another devastating pass rusher as a DE or OLB...just had to kill him to miss the 1985 fun

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    Dent and Hampton were devastating, yes I knew Perry was a DT. With the mix and match I just thought he fell through the cracks more than he should with Tyrone Keys getting more time at DE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    Dent and Hampton were devastating, yes I knew Perry was a DT. With the mix and match I just thought he fell through the cracks more than he should with Tyrone Keys getting more time at DE.
    think if al harris hadn't held out, hartestine still would not have had a spot as Al harris in prime and better, the holdout gave him one more year, but team already moving on, imo from him even without perry at DT..

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    Yes always the greatest "what if" for me if Harris (and Bell) had played that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    Yes always the greatest "what if" for me if Harris (and Bell) had played that year.
    hard to imagine that "D" better short bear, but esp bell it would have been.and maybe with bell the miami game has a different result... ahh the what if's!.. and if have both, maybe we also can stand the losing of marshall better or even never lose him a few years later..Harris could play both OLB and DE depending on need, esp in the "46'...

    What many people do not know or don't remember is mongo/singletary and van horne ALSO held out of camp.. and actually Singletary didn't sign until camp was almost over..how different that would ahve been if those 3 had also stuck to guns and not played...

    ( and in alot of ways, glad for no message boards back then,, can you just imagine the vitroil and complaining and talks of how bad the bears would be in 1985 with all these holdout's?..lol)
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    DB, here is my ode to Doug Atkins, as told by the son of a man who grew up knowing him.

    Dad always told me that Doug was a huge guy, and he was. He was 6'8" and actually weighed more than the 285 lbs that they had him listed at. Said Dad, "He would go up to my mother (my late grandmother, Dorothy), and say, 'I'm 6'8" and 300 lbs of dynamite, with a six inch fuse." (Catch the perverted connotation there in the joke.) He said his favorite teammate, from what can I remember, was Bill George, and that he always talked fondly of the 1963 championship season and the 1963 NFL Championship Game. He talked to Dad about how he would hit Y.A. Tittle so hard that he thought he "killed the ole son of a bitch," yet he would keep popping back up. At the same time, he would always George Halas as being cheap and, the best I can gather, a bit on the strict side. Yet it was Halas who said that the two finest athletes he ever saw in his days in the NFL were Jim Thorpe and Doug Atkins. When one considers that Jim Thorpe was a world-class Olympic athlete, that's a pretty high honor coming from a guy who saw and did so much for the founding and proliferation of the NFL right there.
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    sounds about right dagan, read the atkins blurb on right of link.. atkins didn't take crap( as seen by shooting the gun) and legenfary were his clashes with halas( as seen by running naked in pactice to piss him off)

    http://books.google.com/books?id=TI2...page&q&f=false

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