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Typical DB54 response on avoiding my question.
Typical DB54 response on avoiding my question.
Soul, Kyle is not a bad qb and he was one of my favorites when he played for the bears. He is probably one guy that I didn't slam on the bears unless I was arguing with Mikey in the rival section. The guy didn't have a chance in the bears system and when he became the starter he lost most of his offensive players around him. TJ and Benson were gone, Moose dropping, berrian and they pusscake bradley were all gone. I believe his best weapon was Forte and Lloyd. We tried hester but that was a failed experience from the start.
As for Jay his numbers have not been impressive at all. 50 TDs and 42 Ints is favre like numbers if you ask me. Now if we dump that crap fest of a HC and bring in someone that knows offense maybe we can be sucessful. Kyle did good in Denver despite his defense playing like shit last year.
why get personal? typical. Off course less interceptions is better, didn't really think that needed answering and was rhetorical-but are you really saying the sole basis for judging a Qb is now INT? and things like like wins, td's, red zone efficiency etc tc matter? i hope not.
Kyle had chances to start in 2005 and 2007 and 2008 and didin't do a thing to earn and keep The Starting the job in any year, kyle had benson in 2007 and berrian in 2005 and 2007 and had moose in 2005 and 2007 for his starts also not sure why you think different.
DB, your little game that you play on here is getting old and I feel some swift moderation is on its way.
You asked a question, i asked a question. what is the difference?
i pointed out that most of kyle's numbers either came in gargabe time or between's 40's and like the indy game, wher threw for 476 meaningless yards and could only muster 1 td all day, yards not the end-all. and his inability to execute in the redzone is a major flaw-I'm not sure why that upsets you so much. Or that pointing out wins and td's are important
Last edited by dabears54; 06-27-2011 at 11:48 AM.
Perhaps it is time for you to move on to a different place.
Bro, Kyle did a good job early in his Bronco career and a shitty job later on once they got on to him. The Broncos defense didn't cause his downfall, his lack of great talent did. I'm not saying he's a bad QB but he's not an accurate passer on deep throws and he lacks the arm strength to make certain throws. Once teams get on to this they take away his short game and beat him. On many teams he'd start and win games just like he did both in Chicago and Denver but he won't win the big ones. Remember how Mikey was crowing about his W-L record vs Cutler. That didn't last very long out here and neither will he.
The Broncos desperately need a good QB to lead them back to the playoffs and a championship and if they thought that Kyle Orton was that guy he wouldn't be on the market for a second round pick and the Broncos wouldn't be manuveuring to draft Andrew Luck. Orton's days in Denver are numbered. If they can trade him they will and if not they'll do their level best to showcase him this year for trade next. You say that he didn't have a chance in the Bears system but this is the second team he's failed with so it can't be just the Bears. He's not the guy here and I really don't think he ever will be anywhere he goes.
Not even if you surround him with an outstanding cast of players. He's good but he's just not a championship caliber QB. I think Jay Cutler is. I agree that so far Cutler does look Favre like as far as stats go but Brett Favre still got the Packers to two Super Bowls and if Cutler never gets any better than that I'll be happy with two Super Bowl appearances during his stay in Chicago.
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To be fair, Knowshon Moreno is no Matt Forte, and he actually had his better year last year than the year before, according to the stats anyway. I think a place like SF would be perfect for him.
Yep, he's not even close to being the back that Forte is and so far he's been a bust here. I don't know whether or not he may be better off on another team but I know that he's not gonna many more opportunities to prove himself in Denver. If McD hadn't been so stupid and traded him it's quite possible that Peyton Hillis would be getting the majority of the carries.
Kyle Orton had some decent offensive weapons out here and a much better Oline to play behind than Cutler did but he still couldn't win games despite his stats. Stats simply don't tell the whole story except maybe in certain FF leagues. Look at the how the Bears often one of the top rushing teams during Payton's prime yet we never won consistently. I don't dislike Orton and I hope he does well at his next stop but there is no way I could ever compare him to Cutler talent wise.
I'm getting to that age where a lifetime warranty just doesn't mean as much to me anymore as an afternoon nap.
Honey Badger Don't Care. Honey Badger Don't Give a Shit.
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