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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Love Thurs night games; only b/c you don't get to see every game as it is, you get three on sunday, one on monday and now another on Thurs. This is just one more good game on I might not have got to watch otherwise. And it's still not like it's baseball or basketball and you don't know who when or where the game is going to be on.
    I agree with this statement. I consider myself lucky because the Bears will be broadcast on Fox at least four times due to the fact that they are playing NFC South teams (I live in Knoxville, TN), but I also welcome the thought that outside of the two Monday Night Football games, the two Sunday Night Football games, and probably the first Green Bay game, the Bears will hopefully get a chance to play on Thursday nights in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Love Thurs night games; only b/c you don't get to see every game as it is, you get three on sunday, one on monday and now another on Thurs. This is just one more good game on I might not have got to watch otherwise. And it's still not like it's baseball or basketball and you don't know who when or where the game is going to be on.
    except ALOT of places do not carry the NFL network.. and because of restrictions or trees for bad sightlines, you can't get direct tv you can't see these games anyway..so for many these thurs games not being seen, wheres the sunday and monday games are see everywhere

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    Thats kinda funny. I pay the extra for directv, get the sunday ticket and never miss a bears game. However, this comes at a steep price in that directv does not have a contract for my local channels, so abc, nbc, fox etc. I have to tune in on frickin bunny ears. I don't really care one way or another if the bears are on nfl network or fox, I will get them in HD, however, the playoffs and super bowl I have to tune in on bunny ears in crappy definition. Usually just go to my buddy's place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    except ALOT of places do not carry the NFL network.. and because of restrictions or trees for bad sightlines, you can't get direct tv you can't see these games anyway..so for many these thurs games not being seen, wheres the sunday and monday games are see everywhere
    Don't know that they will keep them on NFL network if this happens, but if they do, sucks for those people....guess they can do what I do when I don't get the game, goto a place that has it and eat out that one night. I still like it....and again most people aren't getting more then 4 games on sun/mon as it is, I'll gladdy take one more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossK View Post
    Thats kinda funny. I pay the extra for directv, get the sunday ticket and never miss a bears game. However, this comes at a steep price in that directv does not have a contract for my local channels, so abc, nbc, fox etc. I have to tune in on frickin bunny ears. I don't really care one way or another if the bears are on nfl network or fox, I will get them in HD, however, the playoffs and super bowl I have to tune in on bunny ears in crappy definition. Usually just go to my buddy's place.
    Bossk.. you can get free HD( and looks real good) with the below.. I have it for 36 LCD in car for tailgates and works great, and when the Cable goes down, use it in house and its fine, its small and get an occassional "pixilation",but its rare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Don't know that they will keep them on NFL network if this happens, but if they do, sucks for those people....guess they can do what I do when I don't get the game, goto a place that has it and eat out that one night. I still like it....and again most people aren't getting more then 4 games on sun/mon as it is, I'll gladdy take one more.
    I'd hope they would change, but just think NFL.COM trying to hard to "brand itself"- think this is how they figure will do it..and force time warner and the other cble providers to add them to their channels( sucks they are still fighting over this 4 years later). And agree can go to a bar to see, just giving a devils' advocate on why some do not like it : )

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    Sorting it out

    Each team was asked to send two representatives, one principal owner and one top executive. The Bears were represented by Chairman George McCaskey and President Ted Phillips. McCaskey left in mid-afternoon when attendance was pared from two representatives per team to one. Phillips, a seasoned negotiator and the de facto chief financial officer for the organization, remained for the final sessions.

    Owners rarely are in complete agreement on many issues but no evidence leaked out pointing toward any significant fissures in the ranks of owners.

    “I think that would be a little bit deceiving to say we have a consensus because we don’t have an agreement,” Goodell said. “We have a very strong view of the priorities, what we need to accomplish in the negotiations and a determination to get there.

    “I think the ownership is unified on that basis.”

    The various proposals create a blizzard of details. But the key, overriding issue according to multiple sources and reports is how the revenue pie will be split in addition to how big that pie will ultimately be. On the table is an “enhanced season” of 18 games, which will net a significant increase in regular-season television revenues over those generated by a four-game preseason.

    The devil in the details

    Along with that come discussions of adjustments to roster sizes, practice squads, injured reserve, limits to off-season activities and more. The players are believed to be agreeable to a smaller percentage of a larger revenue stream, which results in a net gain in monies to the player side.

    Of particular interest to players, and fans, is the expected resumption of free agency in its prior form, whereby players are eligible to become restricted free agents after three years and unrestricted after four.

    “I’m not going to get into specifics of our negotiating session,” Goodell said. “But we want to do everything with our clubs. Training camp, off-season issues, they’re all important issues to both players and the clubs. Player health and safety remains a No. 1 priority with us. Those things have been discussed and will continue to be discussed.”

    John "Moon" Mullin is CSNChicago.com's Bears Insider, and appears regularly on Bears Postgame Live and Chicago Tribune Live. Follow Moon on Twitter for up-to-the-minute Bears information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    not that black and white- the union wanted 55% to they also moved down to 48%, and hopefully not crying about the less percentage
    The percentage can be negotiated but offering them no percentage but dollars in lieu and still wanting to take another billion off the top was never gonna fly and they knew it from the start. Like I've said once they got away from trying to restructure 2006 and bargain out 2010 off of that progress was made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    NFL proposal reportedly features 16-game Thursday night schedule

    By Dan Pompei Tribune reporter 2:22 p.m. CDT, June 21, 2011


    A 16-game Thursday night TV packaging beginning in 2012 reportedly is among the parameters of a new collective bargaining agreement being discussed by NFL owners during their meeting Tuesday in Rosemont.

    Team representatives took a lunch break and returned to the meeting, some with suitcases in hand, a sign the meeting may not last much longer.

    Chris Mortensen reports that a key element of the proposed agreement is the understanding that players will accept approximately 48 percent of all revenue, minus a $1 billion credit off the top. In the previous CBA, players received 60 percent of revenue, but the figure did not include the $1 billion credit.

    The figure apparently is acceptable to the players because projections say NFL revenue should double to $18 billion a year by 2016. Teams also may be required to spend more than they have in the past.

    Also expected to be part of the new deal are a rookie wage scale, free agency after four years and better health care and pension benefits for retirees.

    The proposed 18-game regular-season schedule reportedly would be designated as negotiatible, but wouldn't be mandated.

    Negotiations between the league and the players are expected to resume Wednesday
    Whether completely accurate or not or merely a close estimate a 100% increase in gross revenue across the next 5 years is hardly a case for the owners pleadings of their lack of profitability. Surely their expenses won't rise that fast. Just saying you know.

    A 48% cut of the adjusted revenue if it's defined as all gross NFL revenues less the $1 billion reserve off the top seems to be a fair deal and if that's where they're at I think we may see some football sooner than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    agreed! HATE the thursday games, and the quicker week for teams makes it hard to prepare...but on chasing the almightly $$$$ to fund the higher salaries players want- another prime time game with high ratings= $100's of millions more a year.. so makes sense from the "business side", just sucks from the football side and many fans sides
    That's a good point and maybe the schedule makers can arrange for the majority of those games to be scheduled after bye weeks. They could spread the bye weeks out over the season and try to play two teams on byes for the Thurs. night games. Not perfect but better.
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