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    TOP all time FB's on bears- Who ya got?

    Ok, today we go back to the "O" and for jeff, we go to a dying position in the NFL, that at one time was a very important cog of any team- but with the advent of more and more passing has become less important.And sometimes hard to judge fullbacks, because their main job just opening holes for the RB, that never show ina stat sheet, so you have to look at not only the rush/receiving stats, but also how good a blocker they were- and that leads to almost 2 categories for Fullbacks.Especially before the 2000's hard to find a top Rb that didn't also have a top FB leading the way for them

    1. bronco nagurski- the biggest. strongest, toughest Fb in NFL history, stories abound on his toughness.Bronko Nagurski was the symbol of terrifying, crushing power on the gridiron. All who saw him play speak of him only in the most awesome of terms.
    "Defense him?" Steve Owen, the long-time New York Giants coach, once said. "There's only one way to defense him - shoot him before he leaves the dressing room!"
    "That boy could have been an all-American at all eleven positions," his University of Minnesota coach, Dr. Clarence Spears, insisted."There was something strange about tackling Nagurski," his long-time teammate, Red Grange, remembers. "When you hit him at the ankles, it is almost like getting an electric shock. If you hit him above the ankles, you are likely to get killed."

    2. rick casares-a complete stud, that only because of the bear's great Running back tradition gets lost in the "shuffle" on almost any other team would be more more revered and talked about alot more. he was a 5 time probowler that becuase of all the other great backfield players, doesn't, imo get the recognition deserves

    3. matt suhey- Payton's full back in the glory years, and underated as reciver imo

    4.ronnie bull- another very solid blocker for sayers and 1960's bears, but also could get the tugh yards when needed

    5A.b]brad muster- more the All around Fullback who could block, but more known for his rushing and receiving in late 80's and 90's

    5broland harper-payton's first FB and another hammer FB


    honorable mention:

    byran johnson- a shame got injured, in the games did play you could HEAR the difference when he went in hole and hit a DT/LB, a shame injuries ended it

    tony carter- a big piledriver Fb

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    Don't expect me to add McKie. lol

    You put in all the ones I would have (and a couple more).


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    Quote Originally Posted by BearStuff View Post
    Don't expect me to add McKie. lol

    You put in all the ones I would have (and a couple more).
    or ironhead heywood : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Ok, today we go back to the "O" and for jeff, we go to a dying position in the NFL, that at one time was a very important cog of any team- but with the advent of more and more passing has become less important.And sometimes hard to judge fullbacks, because their main job just opening holes for the RB, that never show ina stat sheet, so you have to look at not only the rush/receiving stats, but also how good a blocker they were- and that leads to almost 2 categories for Fullbacks.Especially before the 2000's hard to find a top Rb that didn't also have a top FB leading the way for them

    1. bronco nagurski- the biggest. strongest, toughest Fb in NFL history, stories abound on his toughness.Bronko Nagurski was the symbol of terrifying, crushing power on the gridiron. All who saw him play speak of him only in the most awesome of terms.
    "Defense him?" Steve Owen, the long-time New York Giants coach, once said. "There's only one way to defense him - shoot him before he leaves the dressing room!"
    "That boy could have been an all-American at all eleven positions," his University of Minnesota coach, Dr. Clarence Spears, insisted."There was something strange about tackling Nagurski," his long-time teammate, Red Grange, remembers. "When you hit him at the ankles, it is almost like getting an electric shock. If you hit him above the ankles, you are likely to get killed."

    2. rick casares-a complete stud, that only because of the bear's great Running back tradition gets lost in the "shuffle" on almost any other team would be more more revered and talked about alot more. he was a 5 time probowler that becuase of all the other great backfield players, doesn't, imo get the recognition deserves

    3. matt suhey- Payton's full back in the glory years, and underated as reciver imo

    4.ronnie bull- another very solid blocker for sayers and 1960's bears, but also could get the tugh yards when needed

    5A.b]brad muster- more the All around Fullback who could block, but more known for his rushing and receiving in late 80's and 90's

    5broland harper-payton's first FB and another hammer FB


    honorable mention:

    byran johnson- a shame got injured, in the games did play you could HEAR the difference when he went in hole and hit a DT/LB, a shame injuries ended it

    tony carter- a big piledriver Fb
    One correction: As much as I love Nagurski, Jim Brown was a fullback (although he was the primary runner) so Nagurski is the #2 all-time fullback.

    I'll go...

    1) Bronko Nagurski
    2) Rick Casares
    3) Matt Suhey
    4) Ronnie Bull
    5) Bill Osmanski

    Honorable Mention: Roland Harper, Brad Muster, Brian Piccolo (gotta love his grit and determination as a player), Bryan Johnson.

    How did you forget Bill Osmanski? He was dubbed "thunder" and McAfee "lightning" on those 1940s Bears' teams.

    Thanks for doing fullbacks!

    When can we expect guards?

    Did you agree or disagree with Pierson about using a full-house backfield (Payton, Sayers and Nagurski) and using Payton and Sayers as flankers in lieu of a second receiver, then using the second receiver to spell Nagurski?

    Like I said at first I disagree with him, but after thinking it over I tend to agree with him. You gotta put your best players on the field.
    Last edited by GeorgiaJeff; 06-25-2011 at 02:22 PM.

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    While they listed brown as the FB, he was a pure RB and never the lead blocker for browns, as bronko was for the bears in many years. And yeah good call on Osmanski, my mistake!,, he should be in there , as well as piccolo for "honorable mention"( as career too short), good calls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    While they listed brown as the FB, he was a pure RB and never the lead blocker for browns, as bronko was for the bears in many years. And yeah good call on Osmanski, my mistake!,, he should be in there , as well as piccolo for "honorable mention"( as career too short), good calls!
    Franco Harris is another player listed as FB, but was a de facto RB.

    No opinion on Pierson and the full-house backfield/one receiver?

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    No doubt Nagurski was the all time stud FB for the Bears and would have been good even had he played 20 years after he did.

    In the more modern era I'd have to go with Casares simply because the guy could move the sticks in an era when "three yards and a cloud of dust" still had some significance although not as much as it did in the Nagurski era. Behind him I'd have to but Matt Suhey as a great combination blocker, runner and receiver followed real closely by one of my all time favorites Roland Harper. Harper was barely bigger than Payton but he was one tough SOB and a very good ball carrier. Forget which year offhand but he and Payton both nearly had 1000 yds rushing one year. Much like Neal Anderson, very unsung back.

    The I like Brad Muster who was really as much a big RB as a true FB. Big athletic guy who had a few good years as Neal Anderson running mate. I never cared for Ronnie Bull all that much and Pic did well in his "short season" but the one guy from that era we really should have drafted was Bill Brown for Illinois. The Vikes got him and next to Jimmy Taylor he was probably the best FB of the 60's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    No doubt Nagurski was the all time stud FB for the Bears and would have been good even had he played 20 years after he did.

    In the more modern era I'd have to go with Casares simply because the guy could move the sticks in an era when "three yards and a cloud of dust" still had some significance although not as much as it did in the Nagurski era. Behind him I'd have to but Matt Suhey as a great combination blocker, runner and receiver followed real closely by one of my all time favorites Roland Harper. Harper was barely bigger than Payton but he was one tough SOB and a very good ball carrier. Forget which year offhand but he and Payton both nearly had 1000 yds rushing one year. Much like Neal Anderson, very unsung back.

    The I like Brad Muster who was really as much a big RB as a true FB. Big athletic guy who had a few good years as Neal Anderson running mate. I never cared for Ronnie Bull all that much and Pic did well in his "short season" but the one guy from that era we really should have drafted was Bill Brown for Illinois. The Vikes got him and next to Jimmy Taylor he was probably the best FB of the 60's.
    Bill Brown was originally a Bear and we let him go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaJeff View Post
    Franco Harris is another player listed as FB, but was a de facto RB.

    No opinion on Pierson and the full-house backfield/one receiver?
    yep rocky blier was the FB not franco for steelers, jin brown the same, a rb not a fb- and it was a funny idea by Pierson that would have worked in the 1990's and before- not sure would now :)

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    No Raymont 'Ultraback' Harris? Hehehe.

    I have to put Merrill Hoge in there. A Bear for only a season, he was a premier FB during his career with the Steelers.

    Amazing, the guy had to learn to read again after the CEI concussion.

    Yeah, I thought this was focused on guys who played for Chicago...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaJeff View Post
    One correction: As much as I love Nagurski, Jim Brown was a fullback (although he was the primary runner) so Nagurski is the #2 all-time fullback.
    Jim Brown played for The Bears?
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