Thread: Top 20 Rookie UDFA's.........................

Originally Posted by Dagan81

I want John Clay. He's an absolute battering ram, and if he can be taught how to pick up a blitz, he could be third back we need and we could cut Chester Taylor.

Dags as big a Badger as I am I do not want John Clay at all. He may have been a battering ram in college but his lack of speed (4.8 forty) and his lack of niftiness won't help him at all in the NFL. When you carry that kind of size you still need some speed and moves to make it work in the NFL, ala Brandon Jacobs, and Clay lacks that. He's strictly a one speed downhill runner. The Bears would be a lot better off signing the Packers John Kuhn in FA. That guy is as good an NFL FB as you could ask for.

Originally Posted by little bear

Why did Gil Brandt forget to mention C Tim Barnes (Missouri) in his article?

Good question LB. I thought he was one of the better OC prospects.

Originally Posted by soulman

Thanks! I see the value of a guy like Sansenbacher moreso because he is the type of guy Martz seems to cherish. Even if Martz leaves it sounds like he still the kind of clutch WR every team needs. If he can play ST's maybe we replace Davis with him after a year on the PC.

I'm with you on the punters as well. Weatherford could be a UFA target but there must be a few rookies worth looking at if we can't land him.

Sanzenbacher would be the 2nd coming of Tom Waddle. I'd go after LB and o-linemen 1st, but if he's available ..... also wonder why I never hear the name Armon Binns ( 6'03 WR Cinn. ) mentioned anywhere.

Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox

Clay blows. He's spent his entire career behind one of the best OLs in the Nation, including THE best the past two seasons. Any line that would have forced him to squeeze through shrinking holes or make his own holes, and he would have been fucked.

Clay is, as I said, an absolute battering ram. He weighs about 240 lbs, and he can knock a few guys down who are in front of him. I don't know that I agree completely on this assessment. Now, signing Kris O'Dowd or Tim Barnes sounds intriguing. I'm interested in seeing with another year of seasoning and strength conditioning what either of those two would be like.

Edit: I stand corrected in that Clay was a slow runner in college (4.8 in the 40) and was mainly a downhill runner.

Originally Posted by Dagan81

Clay is, as I said, an absolute battering ram. He weighs about 240 lbs, and he can knock a few guys down who are in front of him. I don't know that I agree completely on this assessment. Now, signing Kris O'Dowd or Tim Barnes sounds intriguing. I'm interested in seeing with another year of seasoning and strength conditioning what either of those two would be like.

Edit: I stand corrected in that Clay was a slow runner in college (4.8 in the 40) and was mainly a downhill runner.

Sox hit the nail on the head too. Clay is another Ron Dayne v2.0, if even that good, and Dayne could do nothing in the pros. Once the Badgers started using Monte Ball and James White, Clay's carries diminished considerably. He's just a very productive college player won't won't repeat that in the pros.

Here's an update on some of these top 20 from another source. Some of these guys have already committed to teams. Here's what I have so far. I'll update the list when more info comes on line.

LB Mark Herzlich - Ravens (shit)

SS Deandre McDaniel - Saints

CB Kendric Burney - Panthers

SS Joe Lefged - Colts

SS Jeron Johnson - Seahawks

WR Ricardo Lockette - Seahawks