Thread: Bears fans are whiny wussies

you are right, these players weren't that good... the problem is that these players are replaced by worse players. Now add the fact that we have Cap Space and some money to spend on upgrades that we need. Our OL and WR needed upgrades but the only upgrade is a Rookie named Carimi.

I'll back you up on the whining.... but as far as getting it to stop, you might as well scream at the sun till your head explodes.

I'm not happy and I've got a good gdamn right not to be happy. There was a clear path to take going into FA and I don't think there was anyone around here who couldn't see it. Instead of following that path which I believe should have led to the upgrades of several positions apparently Jerry Angelo decided instead on the proverbial "road less taken" approach. Depending on the eventual results he'll either go down as the shrewdest or the dumbest GM in the NFL this offseason.

There was not another area of this team that needed more attention to upgrades than the Offensive Line. I think we can all agree on that. I'll give JA credit for drafting the guy who I believe was the best choice in a rookie OT for the Bears but now he turns around and offsets that positive with two negatives. 1) He failed to add even one top OG in free agency even with the market full of them 2) He failed to re-sign Olin Kruetz and instead brought in a lesser player. I think every fan and every sports writer who follows the Bears saw those as his two priorties as soon as the league opened for business last Tuesday.

Here are his comments when asked about his failure to sign veteran Oline help;

On if he’s comfortable with the competition on the offensive line or if he’ll try to sign more veteran free agents:

“Hey, it’s tough. These offensive linemen are tough to find. We’ve got a good nucleus of young guys with traits that we look for, but they’ve got to come together. We just can’t run up and down the starting line, get a guy with a few games under his belt with NFL experience and think that’s the answer. They’ve got to come together. We like our young players. We need to start developing our young players. How are you going to develop them if you don’t play them? And if you don’t play them, how do they know you believe in them? So it’s a Catch-22. We brought in an experienced center that is still in the prime of his career. It’s the best we could do. That’s all we could do. Everybody has an opinion; they need this, they need that. Well, tell me who you want. Who should we look at? Give me names. Don’t tell me about our problems; give me solutions. I’m in the solution business. You guys do a great job of identifying our problems. How about a few solutions?"

So the best Jerry Angelo could do was to sign a 29 years old center who never lived up to his 1st round pick expectations after failing to sign step #2 of his imperatives, Olin Kruetz! You want names Jerry? That was the name everyone gave you as far as signing an OC was concerned.

And the other best Jerry Angelo could do was a complete failure to sign even one free agent Olineman, either an OT or an OG. You want names again Jerry? How about; Yanda, Dahl, Joseph, Blalock, Clabo, Colon, Bushrod, Gallery, Trueblood, Free, Gaither, Lutui, Colledge, Light, Johnson, and your own Olin Kruetz. But at least you signed a lesser player to replace him. Every name on this list is included in the top 100 Free Agents and Jerry, you couldn't even get one of them in the fold. So that's a failure of step #1 of your imperatives.

Starky I never complained about the play of either Olsen or Kruetz. Olsen is what he is. A marginal blocker but a very good pass catcher with both size and better speed than most TE's. He wasn't traded because he perfromed poorly. He was traded be because our OC wouldn't use him properly. There is no question that Olin Kruetz is on the downside of his career physically but he's still a very sharp player and a team leader. Even at age 34 after 13 years in the game he still rated among the top 100 Free Agents (#47) while the guy wae just hired to replace him rated at (#73).

If anyone can tell me how trading Olsen, replacing Kruetz, and not signing a single veteran Offensive Lineman from that list constitutes and offensive improvement based on what we should have set out to do and badly needed to do I love to hear it.

is it time for the Annual Gremans speach?

Originally Posted by StarkyLuv

All this whining and caterwauling about letting Greg Olsen and Olin Kreutz go.

All you guys did was whine about how Olsen "never reached his potential". You're right, he did. He was never an essential part of our offense and was a mediocre pass-protector and run blocker. So the Bears (smartly) let him go. And you guys piss and moan like it's the end of the world.

The past two years all ANY Bears fan did was complain about how Kruetz "lost it" and "can't run out on blocks" and gets "blown off the line". That's all you guys said about him. Then the guy asks for an absurd amount of money for a way-past-his-prime 13th year center, and you throw a tantrum? The Bears, starting last year, began to smartly get rid of players that they feel cannot help them ON THE FIELD. I believe this has a LOT to do with the power invest in Marinelli, Martz and Tice.

It was Lovie Smith's soft-hearted "love" of his players that kept bums like Mark Andersen and Tommie Harris on the team. That kept him starting players he "respected" over the better player that was waiting to get in the game and help us win. Now you see the Bears be more like New England, Pittsburgh and the Jets. Let players go that's not going to help the team.

And now I'm reading this forum and watch it turn into a bunch of Lovie Smiths. Concerned more about the "love" you have for a player than for what's good for the TEAM. It's a GOOD thing we traded Olsen for a more traditional blocking tight end (and getting rid of Manumaluena too). It's a GOOD thing to let Kruetz go. He's past his prime and can't help this team. The new guy Spencer can't be any WORSE than the "emotional leader" that "led" our offensive line to be the worst in football and give up the most sacks the past 2 seasons.

I applaud Jerry Angelo for getting past sentimental attachments and do what's good for the team. I want to see if Martz will smartly start Earl Bennet and Roy Williams with Devin Hester as the 3rd receiver. Or are they going to force feed the "never-fight-for-the-football" Johnny Knox in there.

I LIKE the moves the Bears are doing. What I'm seeing from the vast majority of the "what are the Bears DOING?" crowd is whining about letting "fan favorites" go. Screw that. I want the Bears to win the Super Bowl and the Bears as an organization are FINALLY acting like they want to win one too!

I'm not even a Bear fan and even I feel sorry for most Bear fans for having to deal with JA and crew. Clearly he hasn't got a clue what he's doing. How many first round bust quality players from other teams can you sign? How is Roy Williams going to be able to drop passes if your line can't block long enough for Cutler to even pass him the ball? When you have a line as crappy as the Bears was last season you don't let the best piece of it go and replace it with something equal or lesser. I would be livid if TT were making even half the horrid moves JA makes.

What has JA done to improve your team since the lockout ended? Do you honestly believe you're in a better position to win games next season with the moves he made?

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

is it time for the Annual Gremans speach?

That or a good stiff drink. Skol!