Mc's defend..seriously.Soldier field turf
Updated: August 2, 2011, 7:36 PM ET
McCaskey defends Soldier Field turf
While many of his players and those from other teams have strongly criticized the natural grass surface at Soldier Field, Chicago Bears chairman George McCaskey on Tuesday said no changes are planned for a very important reason.
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"It's not a money issue on the turf," McCaskey said on "The Carmen, Jurko & Harry Show" on ESPN 1000. "It's at this point, primarily it's a safety issue.
"The studies aren't conclusive, but the studies that we have looked at have shown a higher incidence of lower leg injuries among players on artificial turf. And we want to prolong careers. We want our players to be safe. We want our investment in the players to be protected and the state of artificial turf or an infield surface is such now that we think the safest surface for our players is natural grass."
Bears star linebacker Brian Urlacher was the latest to rip Soldier Field's turf when he was a guest on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000 on June 23.
"It is a disaster," Urlacher said. "I don't know what else to say.
"We complain about it all the time. I prefer playing on grass, but the FieldTurf stuff is pretty awesome."
Urlacher also praised the natural surface at Green Bay's Lambeau Field.
"Green Bay has awesome turf," Urlacher said. "The weather we play in, they have the same [weather]. We played in the last game of the regular season there, and it was great. Look at ours, and it's beat up and looks horrible.
"We're a fast team. If you put us on Field Turf for eight home games a year? We're going to be real fast. Put [Julius] Peppers on turf? [Devin] Hester with those cuts?"
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Urlacher pointed out the different events such as concerts and high school games at Soldier Field, which is owned and operated by the Chicago Park District.
"We work with the Park District ... and they have resodded sometimes twice during the season, so it's something that we monitor," McCaskey said. "And I don't have any scientific evidence for this, but I would suggest to you that a natural grass field that has shown some wear and tear in January is safer than a frozen artificial surface in January.
"We are a speed team, but I think we're fast on [synthetic turf] or natural grass. The idea is to make it as much of a homefield advantage as you can, but to me player safety trumps that issue."
Okay, I'm down w/Grass if you feel it's safer for the players. Like Urlacher said, GB's field in DEC looked F'n aweome; why does are look like the end of a week long Mud Festival by the end of Oct?!?!?! If you want grass, sweet, get the damn grass to look like a NFL team plays out there and not some Bar leagues rugby team!
yeah it's not the type of grass/sod... it's the fact that by the time the bears get to used it, it's been Trampled by high school football teams, concerts, ect...
Even so, the play on the field destroys it over time, regardless of resodding. If we want a fast team, we should allow them to be fast. Hopefully we play in a dome in the playoffs...
Whatever the reason it's a laughing stock and is constantly voted, by the players association, as one of the worst natural surface. The Mc's defending it is embarassing. This group of owners cannot be out of HH soon enough. I just hope we don't get stuck w/the NFL version of Tom Ricketts following them up.
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This whole time it was painted that the park commission, or whoever the hell it is, was unwilling to change it. If the owner(s) want it the way it is, despite rather vocal criticisms of it by players like Urlacher, they're ***** stupid. This is another reason why I'd like them to play in a Cowboys-like dome....
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I agree the new removable top domes are the way to go. Keep the field/field turf save from the harsh envoirnments and let be exposed to the nice ones. Also if you make it movable then you can have all the events you want on there(minus the h.s./college games).
I also don't buy into wanting to hang out in -10 degree weather to watch a football game...but that's just me; and I also don't buy into paying $500+ for the ticket and all the other expenses so I'm really not their customer to begin with.
SCREW DOMES!!!! this is Bear country and we play OUTSIDE. NO QUESTIONS.
Green Bay uses real grass... only they litterally SOW that shit down, and don't open it up to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants to use it...
either make it exlusively a park district field and let the Bears build their OWN stadium... or find some other place to have highschool games and concerts. Chicago's a pretty big city... I imagine they could improvise if they had to.....
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That's a tired expression GB, screw fan comfort, screw quality games b/c of shit weather! Bear weather was proven a myth some time ago. These players are from all accross the country, not just the midwest, and therefore are not all up for playing when in freezing conditions. And the new domes have removable F'n roofs, it's not like you couldn't open it up in the winter as long as it's not sleeting and -1000 degrees.
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I like going to cold weather games in harsh conditions because it's fun. The crowd is way rowdier because the simple fact is that everyone wants to be there. You don't have the guy bringing his half interested girlfriend who prefers to people watch. The business execs (who aren't in the cadillac club) aren't taking their clients to games to talk business and be seen. It's just an awesome atmosphere, even if the Bears are out of the playoffs. Without a doubt, I've had the most fun at the games with extreme conditions.
As for the main topic... I say put in field turf or take better care of the grass (and that means make it exclusive to the Bears).
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George, just get the Park District to do this and they can solve the problem of it's condition and don't have to re-sod. Jeezuz when a solution exists why are all of you who are involved so uninformed or pigheaded? According to this there are 4 stadiums in temperate climes who use this surface. All of these cities are in locations where grass becomes dormant in December. Get with it will ya'?
Packers going to DD Grassmaster System at Lambeau
16 Dec, 2006Athletic Turf News
The Lambeau Field playing surface, home field for the NFL Green Bay Packers, will undergo a makeover in the offseason that will bring the latest technology to the hallowed ground and make future in-season re-odding unnecessary.
When Athletic Turf news took the Lambeau Field tour in Sept. the field looked great. In a project that will take several months to complete, DD GrassMaster, a natural grass surface reinforced with man-made fibers developed by Desso DLW Sports Systems, will be installed on top of a completely new drainage and heating system. The new surface and underlying systems represent the latest developments in field management.
The new grass surface won't be entirely new for the players, though. It is identical to the surface on the team's Clarke Hinkle Field. That surface, installed prior to 2005 training camp, has garnered rave reviews from the players in its two seasons of use.
"We feel we need to have the best natural grass field possible," said Ted Thompson, the Packers' Executive Vice President and General Manager. "We're confident this will serve historic Lambeau Field well. It's grass, so that remains true to the spirit of our stadium; players will get dirty and have grass stains, that kind of thing. It's worked very well the last two seasons on Hinkle Field."
According to the Packers' field manager, Allen Johnson, the Packers have been following the evolution of the relatively new system for several years, going back to its development on European soccer fields.
Even though the Packers haven't been a good team in recent years, people still pay good money to visit the first stadium built for pro football. "We've had great success on Hinkle Field with the GrassMaster surface," said Johnson. "So we've been considering it seriously for Lambeau Field for about a year. Ted compared Lambeau Field and Hinkle Field last spring after several days of rain and it was a stark contrast. Lambeau was still soaked and wet and Hinkle was dry and firm. That final bit of first-hand experience set the wheels in motion."
DD GrassMaster's advantage mainly is attributed to the sand-based soil, which allows superior drainage and softer, more consistent footing over the current clay-based field. Because a sand-based root zone has less stability, the system employs the use of millions of strands of polyethylene and polypropylene materials eight inches below the surface with one inch exposed on the top. This gives the field firm footing and eliminates clumps of sod tearing from the surface. Furthermore, even after a full season's wear late in the year, the footing remains excellent due to the soil-strengthening strands.
In addition to the success the Packers have experienced with the surface on Clarke Hinkle Field, the team can look to the Denver Broncos, Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Steelers for endorsement of the product as each of those clubs use the surface in their stadiums. In fact, the Packers have seen firsthand the quality footing at late-season games at the Eagles' Lincoln Financial Field each of the last three years.
Lawn care business owner Tim Doppel from Michigan. The statue? That's Vince LombardiThe project will commence upon the conclusion of the season and begin with removing all current levels of the field. The first layers will consist of a clay base with drain tile and irrigation piping. The second level consists of four inches of gravel with 30-plus miles of tubing for the heating system. The third level is made of 12 inches of sand and the top level consists of the sod with its reinforcing fibers.
Depending on the weather's effect on the first stages of the process, the sod will be placed in late April or early May. After the roots are firmly established, by late July, the fibers will be stitched in place.
Due to the enhanced drainage capabilities, fans at Lambeau will notice no perceptible crown on the field. A slight slope will exist, about a half-degree decline, to assist with water and snow removal when the field is covered with a tarp.
Also included in the project will be a new service path encircling the field. Gone will be the cement, replaced with a rubberized surface, similar to the one adjacent to the Hutson Center on the side of Clarke Hinkle Field. The new path still will allow for equipment use, but be safer for players that run far out of bounds.
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