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    Nobody said he looked good yet, just that things are looking up so far. at least that's how I've taken it. I just think everyone's to quick to harp on him cause he didn't break out like we hoped. He's still damn capable of being a 1,000 yard reciever if used correctly EMPHASIS ON THAT PART.

    for a guy who never played the position to come and learn in 5 years at the NFL level what most people learn Pop Warner/Highschool.

    that right there is pretty impresive... plus we've had previous recievers come here during the turner Era who looked like chumps due to the predictability... So that didn't do ANYONE any favors. Cutler OR the recieving core.... ANY of them.

    flip to last year and it's the first year in a REALLY complex system. this year it's obvious that the "learning" is over and now it's just a matter of going out and DOING IT. which i'm supremely confident we'll do. and I don't think we'll finally get to see hester in some different looks with RW coming in to be the "big target"...

    Hester in the slot is what LOTS of people have been asking for, and I'm thinking we could be treated to quite the show this year in ALL facets. we just upgraded a championship caliber defense as well IMO...

    So even if the Offense falls flat we're STILL a 10 win team. So all signs are pointing up....

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    I think people harp on him cause his contract prevents us from adding legit wr targets cause he is our "big money guy".

    And on top of that I think everyone loves Hester. They just hate Lovie making him a number one wr which hurt what he was doing for us on special teams.

    And you are right Hester has pretty good hands surprisingly. Our wrs are weak and get jammed too often. I dont think it is our wrs fault. I think it is the gms fault for not putting a better variety out there to prevent that. One thing I would like Hester to get down is screen plays. With his speed and in space he should be a killer in that play but it never works out for some reason.

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    A lot of that "big money" no doubt was due in part to the big time plays he's delivered on ST and will continue to deliver. and unless we've all so quickly forgotten who was before him.... "Bobby McDropsalot Wade"....

    Totally worth the money we pay him. even if he never catches a nother freakin pass it's STILL worth it. he scares defenses when he's on the field, and as Marinelli put it when he was in detroit... makes other coaches wanna "kick it into lake michigan"...

    I've been watching for the better part of 15 years... and I've NEVER seen anyone do what he does. Not even Dion could touch this kid. and he's still got plenty left in the tank.

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    Is that a gif of Cutler throwing to Roy Williams? Eerily similar to Romo to Williams. 8p
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    A lot of that "big money" no doubt was due in part to the big time plays he's delivered on ST and will continue to deliver. and unless we've all so quickly forgotten who was before him.... "Bobby McDropsalot Wade"....

    Totally worth the money we pay him. even if he never catches a nother freakin pass it's STILL worth it. he scares defenses when he's on the field, and as Marinelli put it when he was in detroit... makes other coaches wanna "kick it into lake michigan"...

    I've been watching for the better part of 15 years... and I've NEVER seen anyone do what he does. Not even Dion could touch this kid. and he's still got plenty left in the tank.
    like i have been saying since year one of the hester wr experiment we can play him as a number one where he will be below average or put him in the slot and he can be amazing.

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    [QUOTE=motownbear;832077]like i have been saying since year one of the hester wr experiment we can play him as a number one where he will be below average or put him in the slot and he can be amazing.[/QUOTE]


    I've been riding this same train of thought for a while now too. If we've got Knox and Williams lined up outside and put Hester in the slot opposing defenses are gonna have some problems deciding how to play their coverage against that lineup. That specific combination is the closest I think we can get to putting something scary of the field in our passing game. From that slot they should be using one of two ways only. Either to stretch the field and create problems trying to cover both he and Knox deep while RWill covers the shorter routes or they get him the ball on quick slants or hooks and let him try to break free for big gains. Use him less but use him far more effectively then we have in the past. The return game is still where he's most valuable to us IMO.
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    [QUOTE=soulman;832151]
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    like i have been saying since year one of the hester wr experiment we can play him as a number one where he will be below average or put him in the slot and he can be amazing.[/QUOTE]


    I've been riding this same train of thought for a while now too. If we've got Knox and Williams lined up outside and put Hester in the slot opposing defenses are gonna have some problems deciding how to play their coverage against that lineup. That specific combination is the closest I think we can get to putting something scary of the field in our passing game. From that slot they should be using one of two ways only. Either to stretch the field and create problems trying to cover both he and Knox deep while RWill covers the shorter routes or they get him the ball on quick slants or hooks and let him try to break free for big gains. Use him less but use him far more effectively then we have in the past. The return game is still where he's most valuable to us IMO.
    Agree with ur assessment if this WR set. And, say it's effective several times throughout the game .... boom that's when u send em all on long routes then use a screen pass for a 30yd gain ( maybe even a TD ). This O has more potential this year. Martz regains credibility if he makes the right play calls at the right times this year and they work. He doesn't his genius label completely fades into everlasting obscurity.
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    Now in a 4 wr set you could have Bennett doing a curl or a post to one side just behind the LB's, and Hester doing a slant onto the other side and RW and Knox going deep, that will really cause problems for the D to decide, and gives Cutler a lot of options, Deep, short, and over the middle.

    That is Hesters best place, slant/post face the ball and in the open middle field making lb's chase him and DB's miss.
    Bennett is your safety valve and knox and RW's can be your big play guys.

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    All of this won't matter, of course, if our offensive line doesn't protect Cutler. I would imagine that Martz will give him the green light to scramble and run out of the pocket on pass plays. He will have to, since apparently the offensive line is yet again looking pretty shaky.

    But back to Hester. I agree that Hester would benefit us most in the slot and running screen plays. I think it was against the Eagles last year that he had like a 54 yard play on a screen pass, and that gave me all sorts of ideas in my mind. It will be interesting to see what Martz decides to do.

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    Don't know about that; Cannot remember if I was listening to the score today or Chicago ESPN, but one of them said that Martz's O has aways been the the top 6 of most sacks allowed catagory. He doesn't care about the qb's health/safety. He also doesn't give a damn about picks, he's going to toss the ball around and hope he gets more td's then to's.
    I just hope to gawd that this offseason isn't so 100% about running his system as it looks like, and they keep it more balanced like the 2nd half of last year. This OL isn't going to be THAT improved, if at all to allow Cutler consistant 5-7 step drops, and I'd just assume he not get concussed this year.

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