Thread: Butkus Chimes in on Soldier Field Turf, HGH, and Bubba Smith...

Soldier Field grass has been unstable for long time

Bears need to switch to consistent surface to bolster style of play



Matt Bowen Scouting the Bears 11:19 p.m. CDT, August 11, 2011


Three pairs of cleats. A speed bottom, a baseball style cleat and the old school seven-studs. That's what I packed in my bag for trips to Soldier Field to play the Bears during my NFL career.

Take the first bus to the stadium, get out early for warmups and test the field. When you play in Chicago — at any point during the season — the grass is suspect.


Matt Bowen

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    Even in September, players slip and clumps of grass erupt from the field when you come out of your breaks. In late November, early December? The worst surface you will find in the NFL.
    
    And I always went with the seven-studs (complete with 5/8 inch screw-ins) just to give me a chance to stay on my feet.
    
    If there is one-thing players will tell you in this league, it is it all comes down to footwork. You have to trust your ability to plant and drive as a defender, run through your cuts as a wide receiver and step into your throws as a quarterback.
    
    However, when doubt creeps into your mind before kickoff, and you have to adjust the way you play because of the grass, it doesn't meet NFL standards.
    
    Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher has been vocal with his opinions of Soldier Field and if you are listening from his perspective, it points directly at the makeup of this football team.
    
    Lovie Smith is a Cover-2 coach. A defense that relies on speed, change of direction and players that drive downhill to the football. Read the quarterback and pursue to the football.
    
    Move over to the offense and Mike Martz. The route schemes the Bears run are specific to depth, speed and the ability of players such as Devin Hester to get in and out of their cuts. When a receiver slips, or is even slow coming back to the ball, the entire play is a wash for quarterback Jay Cutler.
    
    Would FieldTurf improve the product we see on the field in Chicago? Without a doubt.
    
    FieldTurf isn't the best alternative to natural grass. I will admit that. You will experience more soreness in your hips and knees on Monday mornings because we are still talking about artificial turf.
    
    But the grass the Bears are playing on doesn't rival most suburban Chicago high school fields on Friday nights. That's a problem.
    
    And for all of the talk "on player safety," I've seen plenty of guys go down with bad injuries when the grass came up from under their feet.
    
    The solution? Make the change to FieldTurf, rip up the grass before it is dead at mid-season, and put the Bears in the best position to win.
    
    After playing at Glenbard West and Iowa, Matt Bowen spent seven seasons in the NFL as a strong safety with the Rams, Packers, Redskins and Bills, including playing for Lovie Smith and Mike Martz in St. Louis. When he's not writing for the Tribune, you can find his work at nationalfootballpost.com
    

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You really can't argue with what he says. He's played on the field often enough and over a period of years. When he says that it doesn't even rival some HS fields I guess being a Glenbard West alumnus he knows what he's talking about there as well.

I can't believe that with all the negative press that something won't be done and soon. Either they find a way to grow and maintain a really good grass field or they shift to an alternative. If the CPD and the Bears won't then I think the NFL should force the issue. You can't tell me that playing on that "sand lot grass field" is any less safe than FieldTurf!

And Field Turf was installed for the Pats in 9 days. If it's gonna remain a high use stadium they need a high use surface. There's some back room bs going on with this situation.

Originally Posted by Blue Horse-shoe

And Field Turf was installed for the Pats in 9 days. If it's gonna remain a high use stadium they need a high use surface. There's some back room bs going on with this situation.

There's an article and photo on the Official Site about is saying and showing what great condition it's in. I want to see what it looks like after the game. I've had parties at my place where the place didn't look anything like it did on the night before on the morning after, LOL.

Originally Posted by soulman

There's an article and photo on the Official Site about is saying and showing what great condition it's in. I want to see what it looks like after the game. I've had parties at my place where the place didn't look anything like it did on the night before on the morning after, LOL.

I'm sure the 5/8 inch screw-ins are real good for this field (not !) but that's what most guys will probably use knowing the field they're playing on. I've worn em. 22 ( 200-300lb ) guys wearing them ..... brutal, but this is what they get when the field is like this. Ah well grin and bear it. I'm tired of this topic, I'm just gonna enjoy the season.

OK one last weigh in on this topic ...... were they playing on ICE last night ? Just wondering cuz both teams were slipping all over the place. This isn't even funny anymore it's just plain disgusting.

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Soldier Field holds up under wet conditions

August, 14, 2011Aug 14
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By Michael C. Wright


CHICAGO -- Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher once called it a joke.

Perhaps that's why quarterback Jay Cutler laughed after the team's preseason-opening win over the Bills once questions were asked about the turf at Soldier Field, which was saturated by rains throughout much of the night.

"It was, I don't know. It is what it is," Cutler said, laughing. "I don't think it's going to change so we're just going to play on it."

Cutler jokingly poked fun at the field in the postgame press conference, but it seemed to get decent reviews from the players in the aftermath of the game.

Often criticized over the years by the Bears and players around the league, the surface at Soldier Field became a concern recently after the team was forced to cancel the practice part of its annual "Family Fest" because of field conditions.

Soldier Field general manager Tim LeFevour explained then that the problem arose when the grounds crew didn't apply enough water to the natural grass field, which they like to keep dry and hard to help the Bears take advantage of their team speed.

Heavy rains pelted the area much of Saturday, resulting in groundskeepers keeping the field covered with a tarp until approximately 5:30 p.m. Reviews seemed to be positive, despite the rain.

Receiver Roy Williams said the "field wasn't bad at all" during the first half, adding that he's "looking forward to November, December to see how it really is. But today it wasn't bad."

Fellow receiver Johnny Knox agreed. The turf held together well enough for Knox to return a kickoff 70 yards in the first quarter.

Earlier in the week Bears president Ted Phillips said he had been in contact with the Bills and the NFL about the condition of the field, and that both were assured the surface would be in top shape.

"It was pretty good," Knox said. "I didn't get a chance to see it when we didn't practice [during Family Fest], but it felt pretty good out there."

The got a game out of it but I still saw huge chunks of sod laying around loose as the game progressed. I guess the best way to describe it is that it went from unplayable to passable. At least they didn't have to cancel the game this week, LOL.