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Lance Louis on the Oline
Sacks painful, but O-line opened running lanes
August, 14, 2011Aug 14
2:44
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By Michael C. Wright
Chicago Bears guard Lance Louis twisted his ball cap to the back and listened to questions, seemingly disgusted with his own performance on a team that surrendered nine sacks Saturday in its preseason win over the Buffalo Bills.
Players and coaches often discuss the need to review game tape before making critical self assessments.
But for Louis, why wait?
“Anytime you give up a sack, it’s not a good thing,” Louis said. “You always want to protect your quarterback, and tonight I didn’t do that. I was just out there trying to head-butt people, and just be too aggressive. That’s it. I got beat by a club and on an inside move. It wasn’t anything special; it was me. I’ve just got to get better, man.”
Louis isn’t the only one. The whole unit needs to improve. But reflection usually offers clarity, and a day after what appeared to be a nine-sack debacle at Soldier Field, the truth is that what transpired really wasn’t out of the realm of what was expected.
The first-team offensive line played the entire first half, allowing four sacks, and committed only one penalty -- a holding call on left tackle J'Marcus Webb on a sack by Marcell Dareus that was declined -- while opening the rushing lanes for the Bears to run for nearly five yards (4.9) a pop.
Behind both the starters and backups up front, Chicago’s rushing attack churned out 164 yards, which qualifies as the second-best rushing performance of the preseason. Such a feat surely couldn’t have been accomplished if the blocking was truly horrendous.
“There were definitely a lot of positives,” Webb said. “That goes in with the [rushing] numbers. We definitely want to run the ball well. We’ve got a lot of big guys and we want to move the ball.”
Obviously, the ability to move the chains through the rushing game makes for unpredictability on offense while taking pressure off Jay Cutler in the passing game. But as expected, the pass-blocking portion of the offensive line’s responsibility still leaves much to be desired.
It’s important to remember that of the team’s five starters up front, Chris Williams -- arguably the most inconsistent of last year’s performers -- has the most experience (11 starts) at his current position.
“Too much pressure on the quarterback, we have to tighten that up a little bit,” Bears coach Lovie Smith said. “We have so far to go.”
No question.
Of the starters, Webb seemed to struggle the most, and a team source confirmed as much. Not only was Cutler sacked once, he was pressured to scramble on another play because of a combination of protection issues and solid coverage from the Bills defense.
Webb also appeared to bear the responsibility of back-to-back sacks by Shawne Merriman on backup quarterback Caleb Hanie.
Does that mean offensive line coach Mike Tice should switch Webb back to the right-tackle spot and move rookie first rounder Gabe Carimi to the left? Not yet. Tice now has the dilemma of whether to flip-flop the tackles, allow time for Webb to improve or re-insert Frank Omiyale into the starting lineup at left tackle, where the team would run the risk of enduring the same production this season as it did in 2010 at that spot.
Tice also needs to consider whether to plug in free-agent acquisition Chris Spencer at center, and kick Roberto Garza back out to guard -- his more natural position -- while making Louis a reserve.
The coaching staff, as of Sunday afternoon, hadn’t made any decisions about whether to tinker more with combinations along the offensive line, or give the current group more time for cohesion. As the team reviews film from Saturday night, Tice will put a stopwatch on each of the sacks to determine whether his unit was truly at fault, or if the quarterbacks held the ball too long.
Hanie admitted that could’ve been the case on at least two of his three sacks. It’s also worth noting that the Bills played solid man coverage on the receivers throughout the game, which likely extended the time quarterbacks had to hold the ball before targets came free.
While Cutler and Hanie understand the concept of quickly throwing to spots in Mike Martz’s offense, which somewhat explains their 50 percent completion percentage against Buffalo’s coverage, rookie Nate Enderle produced a higher completion percentage (70 percent), but suffered five sacks; evidence he may have actually waited for receivers to come open before unleashing passes.
“It’s definitely technique. From the mental part of the game, I think it was pretty good. I’ve just got to keep harping on technique,” a visibly disappointed Louis said. “I don’t know about those other guys because we didn’t watch film yet, but speaking on behalf of myself, I’ve got to get some more work in so I can be better for those guys. This year I’m just trying to stay stress-free, man. The opportunity is there, it’s all about what I do with it.”
Again, Louis isn’t the only one.
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Open Memo to Mike Tice;
Flip flop the tackles, move CWill back to LT or make Webb practice his pass blocking against Peppers four to five hours a day but whatever you do DO NOT but "Omigod" Omiyale back at LT. We need to move forward, not backward.
And yes, move Garza back to OG immediately. He's not an OC and Spencer is plus Louis is showing that he's still not ready to start yet. He and Webb just don't seem to "get it" yet. It's in their heads not their bodies and you keep looking at the physical aspects and ignoring the mental.
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I'm going to say we need a little more time to "Gel"... we looked like crap last year, that's a given.... but we looked less and less like crap the more time went on...
I think we should stick it out for at least ONE more pre-season game. if there is no improvement to be found then change it up... but if it get's better than would likely indicate it's going to KEEP getting better... as we saw last year.
My $.02
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Like we said last season, Tice can't be expected to polish a turd.
With the addition of Carimi and Spencer he has a couple less floaters to flush but with the likes of Omiyale, Louis and Williams he still appears to be up to his nose in poop.
I'm still giving Tice a free pass on this one, Angelo just hasn't done enough to yet to help fix his mess at OL.
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Originally Posted by
GrizzlyBear91
I'm going to say we need a little more time to "Gel"... we looked like crap last year, that's a given.... but we looked less and less like crap the more time went on...
I think we should stick it out for at least ONE more pre-season game. if there is no improvement to be found then change it up... but if it get's better than would likely indicate it's going to KEEP getting better... as we saw last year.
My $.02
I'm for giving Webb another shot at LT before we pull the plug on that deal but I really do think they need to rethink the Garza thing. He's just had too little time to prepare mentally and physically for the conversion. Even he was a little reticent about it after they let Olin go. I'd just push Spencer as hard as possible to bring him up to speed. That switch alone may make a big difference.
I know they need to play together to get it down and if I were more convinced that Martz would use the run and play action to offset the lousy pass blocking while they did bring it up to par I'd probably be less concerned about it now. Martz is a passing addict and unless they sit on him like they did last year he'll always slip into his old comfort zone. At least that's my take on it after watching him play call on Saturday.
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I'm not going to write anyone off yet after two weeks back in pads. However, I will note that Spencer was not nearly as awful as I remember him being in Seattle and had a much better all-around game than Louis. Now, granted he was up against second-to-non-teamers while Lance played against the big boys, but another couple games (yes, I will give this OL three games to fully judge it) like that from Lance and it is time to put Spencer in at C and Garza back at RG.
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Originally Posted by
lklrlolnlilklsox
I'm not going to write anyone off yet after two weeks back in pads. However, I will note that Spencer was not nearly as awful as I remember him being in Seattle and had a much better all-around game than Louis. Now, granted he was up against second-to-non-teamers while Lance played against the big boys, but another couple games (yes, I will give this OL three games to fully judge it) like that from Lance and it is time to put Spencer in at C and Garza back at RG.
I think our best OL might be
LT: Webb
LG: Williams
C: Spencer
RG: Garza
RT: Carimi
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-stinchcomb/
He would be a nice depth pickup and give us a little breathing room.
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Tice was very critical of Webb and what he had to say after the game about his lack of intensity.
After releasing a long sigh when asked about Webb's comments, Tice said, "I played for a long time, and I don't know that I've had that problem. I have a problem with that from a personal standpoint that a player is saying he didn't have the intensity level. I mean, (expletive), after sitting around for five months you should have plenty of intensity built up inside you. So I'm a little disappointed by that. I heard about that comment. He's got to understand that we put a world of weight on his shoulders. He needs to step up, play better, and he needs to grow up quickly because he's out on an island."
I'd say about one more performance like that and Tice will move the guy who has both the intensity and the maturity to handle LT back over where he probably should have been in the first place. Tice put a lot of faith and trust in Webb to handle that switch and not only did he let him down but I would think he down right embarassed him with those comments about his lack of intensity. He won't get another chance to do that again so he better step up fast and hard if he expects to be playing this year.
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Originally Posted by
WindyCity
It appears that Tice is gonna go with his "starting 5" lineup unchanged for PS game#2. I really hope he doesn't get pigheaded about it if it "falters" again (which it very likely will). Barring a miracle, Louis needs to go to the bench, Garza needs to move back to RG, and Spencer needs to start at C. That's obvious to virtually everyone. Unless Webb gets his head outta his a$$ really quickly, he can't be trusted with the LT spot. Whether it's CW taking over (who's gonna play LG then?) or Carimi (the better option imho), the 2nd half of PS needs to be used for the new lineup to get major PT together. It's gonna be a disaster if we go into the opener vs. Atlanta trying to pound these 2 square pegs into round holes.
I also don't understand why Lovie won't sit Martz's butt down and lay down the law on play calling for the start of the RS. We finally have what looks to be a really solid running attack than can pick up ground and take the heat off the OL (which is gonna be suspect even in the best of scenarios starting off). Our passing attack needs to stick with short drops and quick routes until things settle out a bit.