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    Roy Williams Long History of the Dropsies..............

    Roy Williams' long history of drops

    August, 24, 2011Aug 24
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    By Kevin Seifert


    Wednesday morning's BBAO post referenced Dan Pompei's excellent analysis of the Chicago Bears' increasingly unfounded faith in receiver Roy Williams. If you missed it, here was the key line: "What he does not have is evidence, at 29, that he is a dynamic receiver."

    Case of 'The Dropsies'

    Despite ranking third in targets among Cowboys pass-catchers over the past three seasons, Roy Williams struggled to produce in Dallas due to an inability to come down with the ball when targeted. Williams has dropped a higher percentage of passes than all other players with at least 200 targets since 2008 and has the third-lowest catch percentage over the same span.

    Player% Drops
    Past 3 Seasons

    Roy Williams 8.2 (19 drops/231 targets)
    Dwayne Bowe 8.1
    Ted Ginn, Jr. 7.5
    Dustin Keller 7.4
    Bryant Johnson 7.2
    >>min. 200 targets

    Indeed, it will be tough for the Bears to continue justifying Williams' status with the first team unless he starts making the kind of catches he dropped on their opening offensive series in Monday night's preseason game against the New York Giants. But if you're a long-time observer of Williams' career, you know he's been up to this for a while.

    It's worth revisiting two charts we passed along late last month in the middle of Scramble'11. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Williams has produced the NFL's highest drop rate of any receiver who has been targeted at least 200 times in the past three seasons. His 19 drops in 232 targets makes for a worse percentage (8.2) than the notoriously slick-handed Ted Ginn Jr. and Bryant Johnson, among others.

    ESPN Stats & Information also calculates the reliability of a receiver by comparing his number of catches to his total targets. Reliability includes drops but also, to some extent, the ability of a receiver to make out-of-the-ordinary catches. Some receivers get more high-percentage opportunities than others, but over time I think this category provides a pretty accurate representation of the degree to which a receiver has proved a trustworthy target.

    Unreliable Targets: Lowest Catch Percentage, Past 3 Seasons

    PlayerPct.
    Braylon Edwards 46.6
    Bryant Johnson 47.3
    Roy Williams 48.1 (111 rec/231 targets)
    Nate Washington 49.6
    Terrell Owens 51.0
    >>min. 200 targets

    As the second chart shows, Williams caught 111 of the 232 passes thrown his way over the past three seasons, giving him the third-worst percentage (48.1) over the last three years.

    During my stop in Bears camp, I found Williams to be well aware of the opportunity the Bears have given him. There weren't many teams ready to install him as their No. 1 receiver after his performance in recent years. His practice repetitions have been reported as uneven at best, featuring more than his share of missed catches.

    Normally, no one would panic if a veteran receiver dropped a few summer passes while in transition to a new team. But when the problem can be traced back through multiple seasons, it's fair to ask whether it's a side effect or a permanent habit.
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    So by in large what our $1.5 mil has bought us is one of the least dependable WR's in the entire NFL and this is the guy who walked in the door an was immediately annointed our #1 WR. I take it by this time you've all heard the interview with him where he denies dropping that 3rd down pass on Monday night preferring the excuse that it was batted out of his hands by the DB.

    Here's the link for those of you who haven't caught it yet;http://www.chicagotribune.com/videog...;t-have-a-drop'

    You know, if he didn't have a history of being the least surehanded WR in the NFL I could see his attitude but when it's a plain as this just be humble and say you'll get it next time. And don't be such a prick about it when you do it.

    You know of all the WR's out there this was the one we wanted the very least. I know because I ran a thread on it asking what everyone thought. Yet due to our oh so astute OC Mike Martz this is who or what we got. I can hardly wait for an entire season of watching this clown drop key 3rd down pass after pass and kill off drives just like he did Monday. When will Lovie and JA learn to ignore the requests of this idiot and get someone to co-ordinate an offense that isn't made up of his pet failures?
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    A slower broken down Randy Moss would have been a better option. Getting Chad OchoCinco for a 4th would have been a HUGE upgrade. He's all the diva w/the ability to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    A slower broken down Randy Moss would have been a better option. Getting Chad OchoCinco for a 4th would have been a HUGE upgrade. He's all the diva w/the ability to back it up.
    True but none of those guys play on defense and Jerry is not burning a draft pick for a guy unless he plays on defense.

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    we traded two first rounders for Cutler

    we traded a 7th rounder for John St Clair

    so take that 4th with your lies about how our gm wont trade for offense players!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    we traded two first rounders for Cutler

    we traded a 7th rounder for John St Clair

    so take that 4th with your lies about how our gm wont trade for offense players!!!
    Don't DB54 this thread. lol

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    you forgot
    Matt Forte
    J'marcus Webb
    Gabe Carimi (who we were going to trade UP for which for JA is unprecedented)
    Kellen Davis
    you know... some pretty horrid players IMO....

    Top 10 defense for pretty much the last decade, and one of the deepest and Scariest Defenses we've had in quite some time.....

    yeah... SCREW YOU JA!!!!!! how dare you not follow in the footsteps of the 15 year's worth of failures before you!!!!! we should be hammering out 4 win seasons..... damn you all to hell!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    Don't DB54 this thread. lol


    Oh god, now it's a verb.

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    Oh god, now it's a verb.
    It's actually in the Urban Dictionary as well.

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    I certainly would have taken Plax over this guy and Ocho as well. It's pretty clear to me that this low risk deal is also a low production deal as well. I see Roy doing just enough in practice each week to keep Martz hoping that anytime now he'll break out. This is another Todd Collins all over again where the better man sits for whatever assinine reason Martz wants to use next.
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