Thread: Jay Cutler has given up on the OL

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I recognize I am probably in the minority on this....


You guys are happy with or excuse his play and his character/leadership on and off the field....I am not...adversity shines a spotlight on someone’s true character...I don’t expect Cutler to make the Pro-Bowl playing behind this line or with his crop of WRs...I do expect him to be play better then he has been...I do expect him to act like leader, both on and off the field...


Jay is TRYING, yet failing, and we all suppose to pat him on the back, tell him “good boy” and it’s not your fault...

The OL is TRYING, yet failing, and JAY publicly takes a cheap shot at them....

Sorry, not my definition of a leader....


The rap on Cutler has always been that he’s a whiny, spoiled, head case, that lacks leadership and character...I think we’ve done our best to chalk that up to fan talk...maybe all those Bronco fans knew what they were talking about....sure, if everything is 100% perfect, Jay is awesome...football, like life, is rarely 100% perfect....

Wolf I can appreciate your feelings and your honesty in expressing them but I still disagree with you. Jay Cutler wasn't perceived to be a whiny, spoiled, head case in Denver or by Bronco fans UNTIL he asked McDaniels to trade him AFTER McD claimed he was his guy and not trying to trade for Matt Cassell. Jay Cutler was a pro-bowl QB and a budding top 10 QB under Mike Shanahan and with Jeremy Bates as his OC and play caller.

The coaches he's played under or almost played under after Shanahan got fired have helped make him who he's become. Both McD and Martz want a yes man kind of guy who goes out and runs his offense the way he designed it no questions asked! Both are among the most arrogant self centered coaches I've ever seen on teams that I follow and in their minds there is no room for another's opinion. How many QB's with 6 years NFL starting experience and the tools Cutler has aren't permitted to audible out of a bad play call at the line? Only the one's playing for control freaks like Mike Martz. Aside for his success with the Rams over 10 years ago where else has Mike Martz ever had a winning team and developed a good young QB?

Jay Cutler still has the potential to be a top 10 or even top 5 QB but it won't happen as long as Mike Martz is running the Bears offense and Jerry Angelo fails to surround him with some top notch skill players and a decent offensive line. Do you honestly think that Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady would be looking any better with what Cutler has to work with. Tom Brady is a bigger f'n prima donna and spoiled brat than Cutler could ever be but he gets a pass because he's a Super Bowl winner and under the protection of Bill Belicheck. Aaron Rodgers is a media darling because he's a Packer and he's press friendly. Let either of those guys under go the treatement and experience the frustration that Jay Cutler has had to endure in his three years as a Chicago Bear and then tell me what you believe.

How do you expect any QB to exhibit leadership when his OC castrates him with his refusal to give him options? You call what he said about his line "taking a cheap shot" but if someone else like Urlacher were to say something like that it would be seen as just trying to motivate them to play better. Jay Cutler is wearing the jacket that people threw over him three years ago and he's done nothing but helped this team to win ever since he arrived. If he got a little help from his coaches and the management all of this would disappear and we'd be looking at going into another championship game this year but he's not getting it. I'd bitch about it to if I were him.

Read what he said yesterday. I don't see him throwing anyone under the bus or showing a losers attitude.

Cutler thinks offense is close

Posted: 9/28/2011 3:56:00 PM
Although the Bears offense struggled in most areas in last Sunday’s 27-17 loss to the Packers, quarterback Jay Cutler is confident that the unit is headed in the right direction.

“You look at the film last week and we did so many good things and there are just little tidbits that stick out and if we would’ve hit those we would’ve been good,” Cutler said. “We’re headed in the right direction. I think offensively everyone has a good mindset and is positive about where we’re going. We just have to hammer out the issues.”

The key is to keep working on the details without getting frustrated by the results. (He's right but it's hard not to get frustrated whether you're him or just spectators like we are. It's a natural human reaction)

“I think it’s across the NFL whenever you are losing games there is a little bit of sense of panic and a sense of doom,” Cutler said. “We’ve just got to get over that. We’ve just got to keep working.

“You take a look at the film and it just wasn’t one thing. It was across-the-board every single person made a mistake at some point in that game. You don’t want to blame one person, but if we take away some stuff we’re right there in it. We’ve just got to keep working. There are a lot of positives on the flip side.” (I don't see him eliminating himself from blame with comments like this or focusing the blame on any one player or unit even though in some cases it would be deserved)

Originally Posted by soulman

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Read what he said yesterday. I don't see him throwing anyone under the bus or showing a losers attitude.

I’ll admit, what he said yesterday is better, much better in fact...there’s hoping he stays more consistent, both on and off the field...This season looking to be a very difficult test for Cutler; I want him to pass that test...

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I’ll admit, what he said yesterday is better, much better in fact...there’s hoping he stays more consistent, both on and off the field...This season looking to be a very difficult test for Cutler; I want him to pass that test...

I agree with you on this. It will be a tough year and he has to stay mentally strong and come out on top of this. Let's face it he's the future of this team, not Mike Martz, and he needs to champion the handicaps that Martz and Angelo have put him under.

He was never very outgoing or social when he played here but his leadership was never called into question either in Denver or at Vandy. The press made him into a villain more than anything but he could care less what they think of him. All he wants to is to go out, do his job and win games and I think he's just very frustrated that he's not getting the help he needs doing it.

I think his attitude changed a bit after watching the game tapes. By in large what he says is true. Even though we got outplayed badly we were only a few plays away from turning that game around. Hester has a long TD catch if Woodson doesn't shield him from the ball and Knox's punt return get's called back on a very questionable penalty. It's a whole different game if we get those two plays on the board.

The Oline blocking wasn't horrible but the pass receiving was and at the worst of times. Knox had a drop that was a drive killer, so did Clutts and Davis. All of those were very catchable balls. Red zone play calling probably cost us another score, again and had Williams done anything at all to go for the ball at least one of those picks may not have happened. The mistakes and lousy execution is what killed us and he didn't leave himself out of that. He's really not the head case he's made out to be. It's just that he really never cared what others thought and he won't rise to their bait and defend himself. That's his personality and we're just gonna have to live with it.

Yet, he has to live with all the distorted opinions that are being thrown around like they are the absolute truth.

Originally Posted by Blue Horse-shoe

Yet, he has to live with all the distorted opinions that are being thrown around like they are the absolute truth.

Originally Posted by moeman79

I gotta say i was worried everyone whould turn against cutler liker they did grossman, but i agree Jay dosent seem like the problem its JA and what he is giving the team to work with, he has made years of bad draft picks, and refussing to address the o-line in FA.

Yeah I think most people finally realize what's really going on, the smear campaign by the media has run it's course, and no one is buying Jerrys' Kool-Aid anymore.