Thread: Why is Jay Cutler's Play Getting Worse?

Why? B/c he's getting shell-shocked out there and can't call an audible or roll out is why. Say what you will but should never have traded for him if he's just going to be wrecked like this.

At the risk of getting a strong disagreement from Evernight and Loki I've been saying this for a long time. Swap Rodgers to the Bears for Cutler and Rodgers game declines whereas Cutler's improves dramatically. It doesn't take a Madden simulation to understand why either. Common sense would serve just as well.

The Packers offense is built around Rodgers and the stronger parts of his game such as his mobility, accuracy throwing on the move and play calling that takes advantage of what the defense gives up. The Bears offense employs none of that. Rodgers would be forced into 7 step drops behind mediocre pass protection and would find himself without key weapons like Jennings, Nelson and Finley.

Cutler on the other hand get better protection from stronger pass blocking and shorter drops, a grealty simplified execution oriented offense with the pass catching talent he lacks in Chicago. The net result is that while still Jay Cutler and still guilty of the "Favre Syndrome" of throwning where and when he shouldn't, much like Favre, his arm saves the day and he puts points on the board in great enough quantity to win. I'm not at all surprised by the results of the simulation since I believe it would come out that way in actuality as well.

We spent a fortune to get Cutler but have provided him with very little in the way of the supporting cast he's needed to be as successful in Chicago as he once was in Denver. It's a little like buying an Indy Car, putting recap 195/75 tires on it, fueling it with ethanol heavy 86 octane gas and expecting to win the Indy 500. There's nothing wrong with Jay Cutler which can't be repaired very quickly and everything wrong with what we've surrounded him with.

When he traded for Cutler the business plan JA should have been following would have restocked his Oline and WR core just as rapidly as possible. We already had a TE who Cutler could have made a pro-bowler out of and two decent Olineman on the inside. What we lacked were a pair of good pass blocking OT's and a WR over 6' tall and 200 lbs. Just that much of an improvement would have made a huge difference yet it wasn't until this year that he even made a stab at it!

Jay Cutler's problem is the combination of running Mike Martz's offense which hasn't been successful in over 10 years and playing for a GM who doesn't have a clue about how to build an offense around him. This year when it was a must he couldn't nail those two OT's we needed and a bigger, taller WR who can actually catch the ball and play the game. It has nothing to do with a "Jeff George Quotient" and I'd fight anybody who even implied it. He may have George's arm but he has none of the arrogance and poor attitude that made George an NFL pariah.

Even in it's bad years our defense has alwasy been good enough to keep us in and win games as long as they don't have to spend 35 or 40 minutes of a 60 minute game on the field. The defense didn't need impovement it just needed to have continuity by replacing a few parts each year. It was the offense that needed a complete overhaul. So what did we get? More defense in drafts and more defense in FA. I may have defended it in the past to some extent but no more. The window of opportunity is closing fast and if we spend another two years as a .500 team again we will have lost our again on our best chance to string some championships together.

That's not on Jay Cutler and it isn't even on Lovie Smith who can still win games in spite of himself. No, this gets put on a front office who had the $$$ and the opportunity to cement a two or three year run of championship level talent and play and they, or should I say he, failed. In my mind Jerry Angelo is starting to rank right up there with Mikey McCaskey as the destroyer of a good team that could have been great. It's time for some new blood at the top because that's where the problem lies.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

Why? B/c he's getting shell-shocked out there and can't call an audible or roll out is why. Say what you will but should never have traded for him if he's just going to be wrecked like this.

Read my long winded running commentary, LOL. There was nothing wrong with the trade but no QB in the league is gonna play at a high level with this kind of talent and lack of decent offensive co-ordination.

cutlers gonna be david carr eventually. only a GM like Jerry, and an organization like the Bears, could kill such a talented QB like cutler is. I dont see the same fearless guy I once saw in denver.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

Why? B/c he's getting shell-shocked out there and can't call an audible or roll out is why. Say what you will but should never have traded for him if he's just going to be wrecked like this.

When we traded for him we didn't have Mike Martz as an OC. You can blame Martz for the fact that Cutler isn't given audibles to check off to at the line and the lack of both planned roll outs and play action. Those are not features of his system. There obviously no plan to surround him with great receivers and a good pass blocking line as well and for that you can blame JA.

The blaming of Jay Cutler should cease until he gets the tools he needs to succeed. As the simulation shows Cutler would fair much better playing for the Packers and Rodgers far worse playing for the Bears yet Aaron is an NFL darling and Jay the goat. Trading for Cutler without a plan in place to build around him and his skills was like buying a Ferrari to compete in a demolition derby and so far that's what he's been in.

Jay Cutler has everything that a top QB needs except a coach and GM who know how to put him in a position to win consistently. Despite that he still got us to the NFC Championship game last year and would again this year had JA spent some of that $30 mil plus cap excess on two vet Olineman and a better WR than Roy Williams. If fans are gonna blame anyone for not doing their jobs well than blame Martz and Angelo, not Cutler. He's merely the victim of poor handling.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

We drafted an OL this year and a quarterback this year and both won't be playing this week. Our second round draft pick has yet to play while the packers second round draft pick is playing.

As far as the second round pick goes given what we needed and could have done then Paea was about the best choice we could have made. Look at the bright side of it. Toeaina is playing so well he starting over AA and after we got Okoye we didn't need Paea at UT.

The problem with the draft was that FA was delayed by the lockout. If not then maybe we would have had re-signed AA and picked up Okoye before the draft and Paea would not have been as big of a need. If FA went down the way it did for us, with JA striking out on Olineman, then we may have traded up higher to get a guy like Ijalana who was probably the Oline equivalent of Paea. A guy who some rated a late first rounder but slipped when the QB rush came about.

Hindsight is 20-20 here and I won't say Paea was a bad pick. If AA had gone elsewhere and we never got a shot at Okoye he would have been needed and he would be playing behind Melton. Let's lay the blame where it belongs. We needed two vet Olineman out of FA and a bigger WR who could actually help and JA screwed the pooch. I can't imagine another GM in the NFL doing less to help his team where it was needed than Angelo did. It was the equivalent of fumbling away the ball on first and goal from the one yard line with the Super Bowl victory riding on that score.

I'll be the VP of your Fire Jerry Angelo Club anytime you want brother. I've have had it with the guy, his bullshit and his fvcked up management.