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    Is the Bears’ Devin Hester a Hall of Famer? (Good Info)

    Is the Bears’ Devin Hester a Hall of Famer?



    MARK POTASH
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    Last Modified: Oct 5, 2011 08:28AM
    Devin Hester is the most prolific kick returner in NFL history. Four games into his sixth season, he already holds career records for punt-return touchdowns (11) and total kick-return touchdowns (15).
    Is that enough to earn a spot in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
    No one has made the Hall of Fame as a return specialist. The three special-teams players in the Hall are kickers, and only Jan Stenerud was exclusively a specialist. Lou Groza was an all-NFL tackle, and George Blanda threw 236 touchdown passes, 21st on the all-time list.
    (Hester has modest, though not insignificant, numbers as a wide receiver — 168 receptions, 13.1 yards per catch and 12 touchdowns. But his Hall candidacy is based almost entirely on his return-game excellence.)
    Hester has needed fewer than six seasons to break two career records. Even Jerry Rice needed nearly eight seasons to break the all-time record for touchdown catches. But is Hester Hall of Fame worthy? Here are some points to consider:
    ◆ Though he’s just ahead of Brian Mitchell on the all-time list for career kick-return touchdowns (15-13) and Eric Metcalf for punt-return touchdowns (11-10), his impact is significantly greater. Hester has 11 touchdowns on 182 punt returns (one touchdown for every 17 returns) and 15 touchdowns on 303 total returns (one for every 20).
    Metcalf needed 348 punt returns to get his 10 touchdowns (1 for every 35). Mitchell needed 986 returns to get his 13 touchdowns (one for every 72).
    ◆ Hester’s impact goes beyond those numbers. He also scored on a 108-yard field-goal return as a rookie in 2006. His 96-yard touchdown return on the opening kickoff in Super Bowl XLI stands as the only time in Super Bowl history that the opening kickoff has been returned for a score.
    ◆ Then there are the intangible benefits: Besides all the yards the Bears gain when opponents try to avoid Hester, his fake that led to Johnny Knox’s 89-yard punt return against the Packers (though it was nullified by an inconsequential penalty) was a perfect illustration of the respect and fear opponents have for Hester. It’s unlikely any other returner would have pulled off that trick play.
    ◆ Hester’s current hot streak on returns has come when every opponent is geared to minimize his impact. Most returners who make a Hester-like big splash in the NFL — such as Dante Hall, Tamarick Vanover, Ron Brown or Cecil Turner — don’t even come close to sustaining it. Hester had 13 returns for touchdowns in his first two seasons. After a two-year lull, he has not only added four punt-return touchdowns in his last 20 games, but he has averaging 31.2 yards on his last 20 kickoff returns, with six of 40 yards or more.
    ◆ Though Hester’s impact has been monumental, he still has averaged fewer than four special-teams touches per game in his career. He has scored a return touchdown in only 14 games (the Bears are 10-4 in those games).
    And many, if not most, players with his ability make bigger contributions on offense or defense. Hester is a little like Dennis Rodman, whose record-setting rebounding prowess was denigrated by critics who claimed that’s all he really cared about.
    Then again, Rodman is in the basketball Hall of Fame because he not only was a great rebounder, but a winner. For Hester to get there on kick returns, he’ll have to win a couple of Super Bowl rings, or put the records so far out of reach that his greatness is impossible to ignore.
    HESTER VS. SAYERS
    Hester might be the greatest kick returner in NFL history, but some longtime Bears fans still consider Gale Sayers the best kick returner they’ve seen. The only difference between the two is that Sayers seemed to do it without blockers.
    Sayers was on a pace even greater than Hester’s in his first three seasons in the NFL. He had six touchdowns on kickoffs and two on punts on his first 82 returns. That’s one touchdown for every 10.3 returns.
    Sayers averaged 27.0 yards on 17 kickoff returns in 1968, including a 46-yarder to go with a team-record 205 rushing yards in a 13-10 victory over the Packers. A week later, he suffered a knee injury against the 49ers. Sayers played in only 18 more games and didn’t return another punt, though he averaged 24.2 yards on 14 kickoff returns.
    He still is the NFL’s all-time leader in kickoff-return average with 30.6 yards per return. And his punt-return average (14.5 yards on 14 returns) would be No. 1 if he had enough to qualify.


    Copyright © 2011 — Sun-Times Media, LLC

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    Don't know if he is or isn't, but anytime they keep making rules to stop you from being as dominant as you are, then you should be in consideation for the hall.

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    Right, I argued with my friends yes he is because the Hall is for game changers, players who revolutionized the game and for as much as he's done in such a short time, we may never see anyone do it like this ever again. That to me is a HoFer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Don't know if he is or isn't, but anytime they keep making rules to stop you from being as dominant as you are, then you should be in consideation for the hall.
    Yep. I think anytime a rule is basically installed to stop a player and they still succeed then that speaks volumes. Keep Toub and if we get better wr's Hester can play more of a supplementary role on offense his numbers will be through the roof on returns.
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    Does he deserve to be in Canton? Yes, i believe so. Not only is he the best at what he does, he is the best ALL-TIME. Anytime a player can say that in this day and age, that says alot. He is a game changer, the standard to which every other player in the past and now into the future will be compared. He definitely deserves to be enshrined.

    Will they actually do it? Harder to say, but it is definitely an uphill battle for him. Problem with having a rich tradition and so many HoFers...it makes subsequent entries that much difficult. If Hester had played for lets say...the Panthers or Texans, and had same stats, i would guarantee he would make it in, no question. But as a Bear? Its going to be tough, but i think he makes it eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmors View Post
    Does he deserve to be in Canton? Yes, i believe so. Not only is he the best at what he does, he is the best ALL-TIME. Anytime a player can say that in this day and age, that says alot. He is a game changer, the standard to which every other player in the past and now into the future will be compared. He definitely deserves to be enshrined.

    Will they actually do it? Harder to say, but it is definitely an uphill battle for him. Problem with having a rich tradition and so many HoFers...it makes subsequent entries that much difficult. If Hester had played for lets say...the Panthers or Texans, and had same stats, i would guarantee he would make it in, no question. But as a Bear? Its going to be tough, but i think he makes it eventually.
    Best all-time can be skewed a bit in my opinion it took Mitchell years and years to get the record, what I think should push Hester in is how quickly he turned the return game on its head and broke the record in half the time as it took anyone else. His first 2 seasons were beyond exciting and changed how ST was played.

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    Anytime you have a player that broke records that fast, and changed the way the game is played. They need to be at least mentioned for the Hall of Fame. That's my opinion anyway.

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    If he keeps this level up for 2-3 more years, he's certainly a lock. Would I vote him in, if he were done after this season? More than likely..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    If he keeps this level up for 2-3 more years, he's certainly a lock. Would I vote him in, if he were done after this season? More than likely..
    Kind of how I view it also. Hopefully he's around for a few or more years. At that point he should have blown those records so far out of the water that there is no way that he couldn't get in.

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    With Toub and being primarily a returner he should have a very, very long shelf life. He might even have a shot at perhaps some total return yardage as well.
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