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    Matt Forte’s numbers are impressive, but will Bears pay up?

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    After Matt Forte gained a *career-high 205 rushing yards last Sunday, the Bears’ offensive linemen celebrated his performance in the locker room at Soldier Field.

    “It was fun to go out and run the football,” center Roberto Garza said.

    Then a reporter asked him if Forte was going to treat his linemen to a gift or meal.

    “I don’t think he can afford it right now,” Garza playfully said. “We’ll talk about that later.”

    It’ll be a short conversation.

    Forte is one of the team’s lowest-paid veterans, making $600,000 this season in the final year of his four-year, $3.7 million rookie contract. The entire deal is a fraction of what offensive lineman Chris Williams, picked 30 spots ahead of Forte, received in guaranteed money, not to mention base salaries.

    All of that has Forte’s teammates — from Lance Briggs to Chris Harris, Roy Williams and Devin Hester — openly campaigning for him to get a new deal.
    But they shouldn’t hold their breath.

    Before the season, general manager Jerry Angelo left open the possibility of addressing the contract during the season, but Forte’s agent said it’s status quo after four games.

    “We have received no indication of any change in the stance of the Bears as it relates to their perception — despite his production — of Matt’s value,” agent Adisa Bakari told the Sun-Times.

    Money matters
    For their part, the Bears prioritized signing Forte to an extension above everything else.

    But where there’s a will doesn’t mean there’s a way.

    During training camp, Forte balked at a proposal from the Bears that, according to ESPNChicago, included between $13 million and $14 million in guarantees. But without more specifics, it’s hard to gauge how fair the deal was. Still, that’s dramatically less guaranteed money than DeAngelo Williams ($21 million), Chris Johnson ($30 million) and Adrian Peterson ($36 million) received in their latest deals.

    Forte has said he believes the central issue is whether, in the organization’s opinion, he’s an elite running back.

    The numbers, through four games, are decidedly in his favor.

    Forte is second in total yards from scrimmage with 634, and he’s tied for fourth with 23 first downs. But Forte also is distinguishing himself in statistics that highlight his playmaking ability. He has 292 yards after catch (second in the NFL), and he has 109 rushing yards after contact, which ranks 22nd in the NFL but is impressive given the struggles of the Bears to control the line of scrimmage.

    But the more telling number is this: How many victories would the Bears have without him?

    Whether it’s injuries, deficiencies or misdiagnoses, Forte clearly has been the MVP of the Bears’ offense, if not the entire team.

    When in doubt, Hester said Sunday, the Bears give the ball to Forte.

    “[Forte] doesn’t get enough credit,” Hester said. “He’s one of the top two running backs in the league.”

    Whatever the Bears were willing to pay, the price obviously has gone up.

    “We’ve stated from the very beginning that the longer we wait, the more difficult and complicated it becomes,” Bakari said. “Matt, to date, is performing at an ultra-elite level, and that’s an indisputable reality.”

    What’s on the horizon?

    Here’s another sobering reality: This could be Forte’s last season with the Bears.

    Next offseason, the Bears might experience déjà vu — they unloaded a promising young player (Greg Olsen) this offseason for a draft pick (third-rounder) because they didn’t want to pay him a market-level contract.

    The Bears could put the franchise tag on Forte next offseason and pay him what’s expected to be around $8 million for 2012.

    But will Forte be as cooperative as he was this last offseason?

    In addition, with a handful of traditionally aggressive teams struggling to get production at running back, the Bears might have to strike while the proverbial iron is hot before next year’s NFL draft.

    Depending on how he finishes the season, Forte could net at least a second-round pick, which would allow the Bears to recoup their initial investment in him.

    Forte largely has avoided piling on to the drama. But he surely would welcome a change of heart from the Bears, given the risk he takes every time he touches the ball — at a pace of 344 times this season.
    Potential hang-ups

    The Bears have $18 million in *salary-cap space, and they certainly will sign some players to new contracts before this season ends.

    Forte should be the first one *addressed.

    But the Bears might be leery of overvaluing the running-back *position like many other teams, although a few have bucked the trend.

    For most, however, a big investment in running backs hasn’t typically yielded favorable returns.

    There are countless examples of running backs whose production dramatically dipped after receiving a monstrous deal.

    Director of player personnel Tim Ruskell handed Shaun Alexander an eight-year, $62 million deal that included $15 million in guarantees in March 2006, when he was the president of the Seattle Seahawks.
    Alexander was the league MVP in 2005 after he rushed for 1,880 yards and scored 28 touchdowns. But he turned 29 before the 2006 season, and over the next two seasons, he didn’t come close to 1,000 rushing yards and averaged only 3.5 yards per carry.

    Ultimately, while both sides want to strike a deal, they have varying opinions on value.

    And until one side makes *concessions, Forte, 25, will continue to collect paychecks equivalent to the minimum for a player of his *experience, and this drama likely will drag into the offseason.


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    what they don't mention about the shaun alexander thing is losing pro bowl OL. RB's cannot produce favorable #'s consistantly w/out a good OL. What we saw in Carolina was two bad lines, our bad OL vs there bad DL, all things equal, the OL was able to open wholes and Forte was able to chomp up yards. Give him a average to elite OL, and he can do that against average to elite DL's b/c the holes will be there.

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    I'll just say that if we exit this season with this much cap space instead of front loading some contracts and setting us up nicely for the future, it will solidify the notion that the McCaskey's are cheap.

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    The difference between Matt Forte and Greg Olsen will hopefully be the fact that Forte doesn't have Rosenhaus representing his (own) interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butka View Post
    I'll just say that if we exit this season with this much cap space instead of front loading some contracts and setting us up nicely for the future, it will solidify the notion that the McCaskey's are cheap.
    The thing that many are overlooking is that this year the cap excess can be carried forward into 2012 so there's no use it or lose it happening. That gives the Bears some latitude in how they approach things this year. It seems to me like they're holding out longer to see what a players performance is like.

    We have a lot of key players, including some of the recent finds, in the last year of their deals or working on a one year contract so Forte isn't the only one who needs an extension, not that I'm in any way defending JA. All that will happen with him is what his agent says. The price will just keep going up.

    Matt Forte is proving that he's a class player every week and his playing through an injury in 2009 proves that he can be productive even when he's only 80%. The parade is passing Jerry Angelo by if he thinks that those deals that were handed out to DWill, AP and CJ won't come into play before it's over. I think that no matter who he plays for Matt Forte will be an ultra-productive back and if we don't compensate him accordingly someone else will.
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    By far from anyone on this team forte has earned an extension ten times over compared to the rest. F ja and his let the offense be shitty game plan I'm sick of that nonsense. For the first time he actually drafts a gem of a rb and he doesn't want to pay the man

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    The thing that many are overlooking is that this year the cap excess can be carried forward into 2012 so there's no use it or lose it happening. That gives the Bears some latitude in how they approach things this year. It seems to me like they're holding out longer to see what a players performance is like.
    I'm not saying you're wrong Soul, but I haven't seen it written anywhere that the entire remainder of this year's cap can carry over. I may have missed it. I've only heard of the soft cap where a few million of next year's cap (I believe $3 mill) can be borrowed from and put to use this year. Do you have a link explaining the carry over? It would be much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butka View Post
    I'm not saying you're wrong Soul, but I haven't seen it written anywhere that the entire remainder of this year's cap can carry over. I may have missed it. I've only heard of the soft cap where a few million of next year's cap (I believe $3 mill) can be borrowed from and put to use this year. Do you have a link explaining the carry over? It would be much appreciated.
    I may be wrong my friend. It may be just a partial carryover but I seem to remember distinctly that the artcicle indicated that whatever wasn't used in 2011 would carry to 2012 and that's what stuck in my mind. Just a one time deal because the new CBA was signed so late. I read it so it must be right, hahaha. I'd have to google it to find it again but I will do that as well as review whatever I can find on the new CBA.

    One site I've found helpful in the past is AsktheCommish.com. This may take me a while and if I can't find any support for it we'll assume I'm wrong until it can be verified. Thanks for pointing this out.
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