Thread: Their Record May Be The Same But Is It The Same Team?..............

LOL @ " Martz treats the rushing game like it’s a colonoscopy." I believe if they stick to this new offense and start Okoye over Melton they will have a definite shot at beating Tampa.

I'm hopeful that Cutler's becoming such an influence that these garbage 5 wides and the like aren't going to happen too much anymore. Also, He mentions that If we go 4-3, that this is a different team from last year:

2 things on that

1.) He mentioned that the Packers were bumbling and banged up to start their season last year (ahem, and what about us this year?)

2.) The D's penetration has waned considerably, and I hope there are more rotations (esp. with Paea there) to keep the line fresh.

I kinda liked the "up Martz creek without a paddle".

The Bears have yet to beat a team with a winning record. The teams the Bears have beaten have a combined record of 5-13. The teams the Bears have lost to are 15-3 combined.

I believe it was the same last year.

I think this guy takes his argument to the extreme. The idea that we are only one game away from having the same start as last year isn't saying we are guaranteed to finish the same way, it's saying there is hope that we might, and the fact that we aren't starting off undefeated doesn't mean that we can't finish well.

I guess Steve Rosenbloom and I have pretty much the same opinions and concerns about Mike Martz and his ways. I've pretty much highlighted those few things that bother me the most going into this weeks game which I certainly hope our cousins across the pond enjoy.

Mike Martz did come up with an excellent game plan and play calling against the Vikings. The fact that there were only seven passes (about 22%) out of 31 with 7 step drops and no WR reverses was a big improvement in my opinion given the results we had with those so far. But Rosenbloom's point is understandable. Didn't we see Mike Martz look like he was undergoing a non-anesthetized colonoscopy when he had to run the ball so much againt the Panthers? It must have been either that or constipation over the lack of passing plays he could call.

I think we are still in Defcon 5 over whether or not this will continue or given his predisposition to panic when he can't run and he immediately reverts to his tried and tested passing game. The trouble is as well as that may have worked elsewhere it works just the opposite here for the principal reason Rosenbloom indicates. Martz doesn't have the players to run it and they aren't gonna magically drop out of the sky on Sunday like some kind of early Christmas present. He needs to stick with Jay Cutler style football with plenty or runs to set up play action, some planned rollouts, and shotgun formations on 3rd and long. Keeping in at least 6 pass blockers would be a very good idea too.

We're a 3 win team against 5-13 teams and 3 loss team against those who are 13-5 so we have yet to succeed against top competiton. That's one more reason not to get too overjoyed with Sunday nights win. Just like this is not your fathers Oldmobile, this is not 2010 and these are not the 2010 Bears. This teams health and it's morale are several notches below last years levels and nothing that happened this week given the injury report and Harris' trade demand would indicate anything has changed from last week.

I'm pulling as hard as I can for this team to turn themselves around and as much as I dislike Martz I really do hope he sees the light and keeps things rolling in the direction he did last Sunday. That would be nice from our perspective but I always get this nagging feeling that it isn't so great from his so I don't trust him to stick with it. I guess we'll know soon enough if Rosenbloom and I are correct about it or not. GO BEARS!

Originally Posted by blinddeafmute

I believe it was the same last year.

I think this guy takes his argument to the extreme. The idea that we are only one game away from having the same start as last year isn't saying we are guaranteed to finish the same way, it's saying there is hope that we might, and the fact that we aren't starting off undefeated doesn't mean that we can't finish well.

Well for the most part I think he takes the position that if things don't change, especially with the way Martz goes about playing offense, that their is no hope of finishing up where we did last year and I agree with him.

It's obvious our defense isn't as strong as it was last years and we need things to improve offensively in order to win. There was a time we could win games scoring only 13-17 points but those days are gone. This team needs to be putting close to 30 points a game on the board and unless we stay with a balanced attack there's no hope of that.

I think we're all wondering if the last game signified a major change in offensive philosophy or it was just another momentary aberration in Martz's pass happy schemes. Guess we'll know sooner than later.

Originally Posted by blinddeafmute

I believe it was the same last year.

I think this guy takes his argument to the extreme. The idea that we are only one game away from having the same start as last year isn't saying we are guaranteed to finish the same way, it's saying there is hope that we might, and the fact that we aren't starting off undefeated doesn't mean that we can't finish well.

Rosenbloom never straddles the fence bdm. He's either for it or against it and that's why I post his stuff. We usually line up on one side or the other of his opinions. I also like his dry humor and sarcasm. The other day he had one that was more complimentary and while he may be going to an extreme comparing last season to this he's dead balls on accurate as far as Martz is concerned. JMO

If we're to catch fire it would be nice if it were in this game. Keeping the offensive scheme on the same theme as last week. Bennett returning, D-line pressure, I'd like to say someone else needs to step up but I don't know who it would be, Kellen Davis if he's healthy perhaps.