I'm starting to despise Bears "fans".

Here's the thing about this season though, and some of us predicted this after our first loss:

We were tested early.
Atlanta...we passed, things looked pretty good.
NO...failed
GB...failed miserably

So right off the bat, we get destroyed by 2 Playoff teams (probably Division winners)
Beat Carolina as expected, but loss to a better-then-expected Detroit team, and now we are on the outside looking in.

Although...now we start the part of the season where we have some cake opponents:
Philly (yeah, who wouldve thought theyd be pushovers this year)
A Stafford-less Lions team, at Soldier Field
An iffy San Diego team (could go either way really, they are as sporadic as us)
Then Oakland, KC, Denver and Seattle.

So yeah, Bears might actually finish with a decent record. And if the Lions lost Stafford for any long stretch of time, we may yet over take them in the Division. And yes, i know you can only play the teams on the schedule, but as i said: we were tested early. Lets say we DO make the playoffs (not an impossibility), guarantee we are going to face either NO, GB or both. And can any of you sit there and say in all serious that we will have any chance of beating them come January?

Yeah, and It only took to the NFC Championship game to ultimately prove our friend Nag’s and others “smarter” then everyone else...to quote and quote, finally have a “valid point” regarding how terrible our 2010 Bears were...

Hey, I have no problem with people having opinions and constructive criticisms regarding our team; I certainly have my fair share myself...I just get sick of people actually believing they are smarter than everyone else....including JA, Lovie and Martz....

First, you’re not a football genius because you constantly point out the same glaring issues everyone else sees with this team over and over and over again...could one of you “smarter” fans please tell me, for the umpteenth time, that OL sucks or that our WR are average at best or that Martz is pass happy son of a bitch...I just can’t get enough of it...feel so honored and enlightened every time one of you geniuses cast your pearls vast football knowledge before us know nothing and Kool-Aid drinking swine...

Second, having/making dozen, if not hundreds, of (mostly) negative opinions and predictions regarding this team only to have a handful ultimately appear to stick doesn’t make you a football genius...it just makes you annoyingly pessimistic...nobody remembers when they’re wrong; but Christ, some of you geniuses never let us forget when you’re "right"...even if it takes to Superbowl or NFC Championship to do it...

Every year 31 teams will ultimately fail...for the “smarter” fan, the odds being proven “smarter” are greatly in their favor...

I know this will be very unpopular around here, and I can’t believe I am actually saying it, but the simple fact is those two especially (Lovie and Martz) have forgotten more about football then ANY of the posters around here will ever know...regardless of how dumb you may think they are; they are still smarter then you will ever be when it comes to the game of football...there isn’t a single soul around here qualified be a HC or OC in the NFL...even though, to hear some of you talk, I am question whether some have deluded themselves otherwise...

You all should remember that when you’re self-congregating your blind self at finding a nut or loudly pointing out the obvious for the millionth time....

Damn, I am all ranty and shit today...

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Originally Posted by Jimmors

Here's the thing about this season though, and some of us predicted this after our first loss:

We were tested early.
Atlanta...we passed, things looked pretty good.
NO...failed
GB...failed miserably

So right off the bat, we get destroyed by 2 Playoff teams (probably Division winners)
Beat Carolina as expected, but loss to a better-then-expected Detroit team, and now we are on the outside looking in.

Although...now we start the part of the season where we have some cake opponents:
Philly (yeah, who wouldve thought theyd be pushovers this year)
A Stafford-less Lions team, at Soldier Field
An iffy San Diego team (could go either way really, they are as sporadic as us)
Then Oakland, KC, Denver and Seattle.

So yeah, Bears might actually finish with a decent record. And if the Lions lost Stafford for any long stretch of time, we may yet over take them in the Division. And yes, i know you can only play the teams on the schedule, but as i said: we were tested early. Lets say we DO make the playoffs (not an impossibility), guarantee we are going to face either NO, GB or both. And can any of you sit there and say in all serious that we will have any chance of beating them come January?

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If we play them in January, we have a chance to beat them in January; anything can happen between then and now...but right now, I am not worried about January, I am worried about October...

To turn the table, how can you sit there in October and say we have no chance of winning come January...if we are playing in January?

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

To turn the table, how can you sit there in October and say we have no chance of winning come January...if we are playing in January?

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Bears are better then crappy teams. Struggle against good teams.

So...its easy to say Bears will continue to be victorious against lesser teams. Unfortunately that doesnt make our team any better, since when we get to the playoffs, we will be facing good teams again, such as....the Saints and Packers. Who beat us. So, either they will have to get worse, or the Bears will have to get better for us to beat them next time, and i highly doubt either of those scenarios are very likely.

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Originally Posted by Jimmors

Lets say we DO make the playoffs (not an impossibility), guarantee we are going to face either NO, GB or both. And can any of you sit there and say in all serious that we will have any chance of beating them come January?

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Forte will still be fresh by then...LOL...!!!

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

If we play them in January, we have a chance to beat them in January; anything can happen between then and now...but right now, I am not worried about January, I am worried about October...

To turn the table, how can you sit there in October and say we have no chance of winning come January...if we are playing in January?

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I think we could agree that Forte is pretty much the entire offense. How long will he last, and, how long before teams make us beat them with Roy Williams and Devin Hester...???

Wolf I'm not posting to educate Kool-Aid drinking swine as you put it. I just toss stuff out to comment on and debate. My opinions as I express them are just as worthy as yours or anyone elses even when you think I'm beating a dead horse.

The simple fact of the matter is that right now this is not a championship caliber team and it won't be as long as we keep repeating the same damn mistakes week after week. Stupid penalties and Martz's periodic dumb play calling are costing us what should be easy wins. They're wins because they're coming against teams who are equal to or lesser then we are. The wins are not coming against the top teams and won't unless things change.

I'm not saying that it won't get better. Given the number of new veteran and rookies we have it almost has to as they get more accustomed to one another and now that Jay Cutler has taken a more effective role in offensive game planning . But that doesn't change the facts as they stand right now.

Martz needs to listen more and think less. He's still far to habituated to his old ways. Rod Marinelli needs to get better results out of his Dline and teach these SOB's how to blitz. We stink at it. Lovie Smith needs to start playing his best guys rather than his most expensive guys and his pet projects. If Meriweather wants to head hunt rather than cover let him play ST. Unless Melton can shore up against the run and start getting some sacks he needs to play Okoye and Paea as his staring UT and NT. And Martz needs to use Kellen Davis as something other than a blocking sled. Good things happen when we throw to him.

There, my rant is over too. :drinking61:

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Originally Posted by Jimmors

Bears are better then crappy teams. Struggle against good teams.

So...its easy to say Bears will continue to be victorious against lesser teams. Unfortunately that doesnt make our team any better, since when we get to the playoffs, we will be facing good teams again, such as....the Saints and Packers. Who beat us. So, either they will have to get worse, or the Bears will have to get better for us to beat them next time, and i highly doubt either of those scenarios are very likely.

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I don’t think it is easy to say the Bears will continue to be victorious regardless of who they play...

On the other hand, I think is very easy to say the Bears will completely fail at some point this season, whether it’s failing to making the playoffs altogether or failing once they get in...it’s very doubtful we are looking at a Superbowl winning season in the making...

However, at this point, making any negative predication regarding us playing/beating the Saints or GB in January as more to do with playing the percentages then anything else...

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Originally Posted by soulman

Wolf I'm not posting to educate Kool-Aid drinking swine as you put it. I just toss stuff out to comment on and debate. My opinions as I express them are just as worthy as yours or anyone elses even when you think I'm beating a dead horse.

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I know I played off some of the things you wrote, but I wasn't necessarily directing my rant at you specifically...sorry about that...I know you are very opinionated about this team, and we have butted heads over a few things, but have always felt a level of mutual respect....my rant wasn't directed at you...

Funny thing is I am probably going end up arguing with you and Jimmors over this, while the guys I actually have a beef with run off and hide until the next Bears loss...:smile:

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

I know I played off some of the things you wrote, but I wasn't necessarily directing my rant at you specifically...sorry about that...I know you are very opinionated about this team, and we have butted heads over a few things, but have always felt a level of mutual respect....my rant wasn't directed at you...

Funny thing is I am probably going end up arguing with you and Jimmors over this, while the guys I actually have a beef with run off and hide until the next Bears loss...:smile:

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