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    Franchise Tag for Forte as Others Need Signing Too?........

    Forte more likely to get franchise tag than multiyear deal

    Significant cap room left for Bears to use on 16 players at end of contracts


    Running back Matt Forte celebrates after scoring a touchdown on the Bucaneers at Wembley Stadium in London. (GARY HERSHORN, REUTERS / October 23, 2011)



    By Brad Biggs, Chicago Tribune reporter 11:35 p.m. CDT, October 30, 2011


    With more than $18 million in salary cap room remaining, the Bears have dealt with constant attention on what will happen with Matt Forte.

    He is in the final year of his contract and a good chunk of that cap space was reserved to extend the running back's contract. He is nearly halfway through the best season of his career, on pace for 1,536 yards rushing and 2,494 from scrimmage.

    If a deal can't be done, it's a near certainty general manager Jerry Angelo will use the franchise tag for just the second time since arriving in 2001. It would come at a price tag of about $7.7 million, meaning tagging Forte again in 2013 would cost roughly $9.2 million. (So roughly $17 mil over two years. This is what Forte should be targeting as a guaranteed portion of a 4-5 year $30 mil deal)

    It's a lot of money, but that approach would minimize the Bears' risk, and after two years of playing under the tag, Forte would be 28 and through six NFL seasons at a position not kind to longevity. (This is where the Bears have a lot of leverage over him. He's just entering his prime and these are likely to be his best earning years. He won't get the kind of offers in 2014 he could get today)

    Barring something unforeseen, Forte's contract is a question for the offseason. But that leaves significant cap room left to consider with 16 players — nine of whom have started at least one game — coming out of a contract at the end of the season. That's nearly one-third of the roster.

    Teams are less likely to spend money if they're losing, but the Bears (4-3) have won their last two and emerged from the weekend off feeling good about momentum moving forward.

    Does the team plan to work on contracts for other players? (The who's on and who's not on that list will be interesting. We can't sign them all)

    "We do," Angelo said. "It's part of the plan for the money. The money is also reserved for injuries and the other thing we don't talk about, back sides of contracts. That's what people don't know. What the backsides are, the likely to be earned and not likely (incentives), that money has to be carved out from the money that you have. But saying what you said, yes." (But there aren't anywhere near $18 mil worth of "likely to be earned" incentives hanging out there. That's an excuse)

    Minimum spending requirements built into the new collective bargaining agreement do not go into effect until 2013, and the Bears could roll their unused cap space for this year into 2012. But as one general manager not wrestling with signing a workhorse running back recently said, "it's a cash league, not a cap league." (This answers a question Butka and I were wrestling with. Neither of us was certain the 2011 cap excess could be carried over to 2012 this one time. Apparently it can which is why there's no rush to get Forte's deal done before the end of this cap year)

    The fact is, it has been that way for a while. After the spending spree a year ago, the Bears had money remaining for two minor moves late in the season. They extended contracts for long snapper Pat Mannelly and defensive tackle Matt Toeaina in December 2010.

    So, what's left in the budget? The Bears didn't spend a lot using a wide net in free agency after the lockout ended. Punter Adam Podlesh received the biggest deal. So, there's room to deal.

    Wide receiver Earl Bennett, center Roberto Garza, defensive end Israel Idonije, cornerback Tim Jennings and defensive tackle Amobi Okoye are just a few players who might figure in the future. Thirteen players have deals expiring after 2012, and in the past, the front office was proactive targeting players a year out and extending them. Wide receiver Johnny Knox, nickel cornerback D.J. Moore and defensive tackle Henry Melton fit that profile. (I doubt they extend Garza with Spencer here now and I think Izzy may be looking at only a one or two year offer. Melton's new deal depends a lot on whether or not he starts getting some sacks because if we can only keep either him or Okoye than Okoye should get it. He's out playing Melton. Knox, Moore and Jennings should all get extensions)

    Angelo has always said free agency starts within — the Bears look to keep their core players from exiting on the open market. But it projects to be another crowded shopping market in March.

    "I think 50 percent of the guys that were out there (after the lockout ended) signed one-year deals," Angelo said. "There is going to be another windfall of players so we're not alone in having a lot of guys up. (All the more reason to fire the asshat and get a new personnel guy who won't screw it up again in 2012)

    "The other thing too is we have a $120 million cap. We have to see how that settles. It will take a full year." (If I'm not mistaken that's a reduction of around $9 mil from the 2011 cap)
    Sounds like it could be a buyers' market. It will be interesting to see if the Bears do any home shopping before the season ends. (Who gets an extension and who doesn't should create some interesting debates around here. At least we have 16 vets with a huge incentive to play at the top of their games from now until January)

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    ESPNChicago.com


    The Chicago Bears will use their franchise tag on running back Matt Forte barring a contract breakthrough between now and February, sources have told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

    If the Bears apply the franchise tag on Forte, it means he would be paid the average of the top five 2011 running back salaries for the 2012 season.

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    But making it worse for Forte, even with the megadeals handed out to Minnesota's Adrian Peterson and Tennessee's Chris Johnson, the franchise running back number is projected to drop this coming offseason from last season's $9.45 million to $7.71 million.

    After failing to reach an agreement during the preseason, Bears general manager Jerry Angelo said the sides agreed to table the talks until after the season. ESPNChicago.com has reported the Bears' best offer to Forte maxed out at between $13 million to $14 million in guarantees.

    Forte said last week the franchise tag would make him feel undervalued.

    "That's not something I'm looking forward to," Forte said Friday on "Rome is Burning" on ESPN. "I don't want a one-year deal. I want a long-term extension. I think if they use the franchise tag that's kind of a cheap way to go out. That's not what I'm looking forward to. I want a long-term extension. I've been drafted by Chicago. I want to stay there so it's not something I'm looking forward to."

    Forte has bolstered his case for an extension with a monster season. He leads the NFL in yards from scrimmage (1,091) and got to 1,000 yards from scrimmage in fewer games than anyone since 2004 (Tiki Barber and Priest Holmes also did it in seven games).

    "Everybody who is doing anything no matter what you're doing if you're working and doing an exceptional job you want your boss to kind of notice that and not a pat on the back but compensate you for what you're doing," Forte said. "That's in anything you're doing. It kind of makes you feel undervalued."

    Information from ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter was used in this report
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    Well if nothing in the way of an extension gets done this week nothing more is likely to happen with Forte until after the season. I do suspect that a couple of others like Okoye and Izzy maybe Jennings too on defense and probably Knox on offense will be offered new deals. Since the Bears can carry their cap excess forward this year it gives them some advantage with players who may be on the bubble as far as an extensions is concerned. Guys like RWill and Meriweather aren't likely to get a 2012 offer unless their play improves dramatically.


    Forte doesn't hesitate to make his point about a franchise tag though. I don't know how much cheaper it would be though for the team. If they end up franchising him for 2 years they'll pay out more then the guarantees they've offered him so far. Somewhere along the line there should be a number they can compromise on that both feel comfortable with. But this bullshit about $$$ being the only way a player feels valued and respected is pure crap.

    How many of us work for less than another firm might pay us based on our skills yet we stay put out of loyalty and the fact that you're treated well by our employer in other ways and we like where you work and our co-workers. So why sholuldn't a pro athlete feel the same. They're just as human as we are. This "show me the money", "I want the quan" "I get no respect", Jerry Maquire shit is for the birds.

    If you like playing for the Bears and you know what they're offering is the best you'll do with them then just sign the deal and get on with your career. An extra mil or two that you may never collect isn't worth the hassle if you manage your money properly. Are you listening Lance Briggs?
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    on offense Im re-signing Forte and Bennett.

    on defense im re-signing Okoye and Jennings.

    not much of what we are losing is that worthwhile. Wouldnt the undrafted class that made the roster be urfa for the next 3 years?

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