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    Is DeSean Jackson the New Devin Hester?..................

    Bears boast Devin Hester, but they’re wary of DeSean Jackson
    By Mark Potash mpotash@suntimes.com November 4, 2011 9:36PM

    Updated: November 5, 2011 2:10AM


    When Chris Conte played at California, teammate DeSean Jackson was the best kick returner he had ever seen.

    In Conte’s first college game in 2007, Jackson returned a punt 77 yards for a touchdown against 15th-ranked Tennessee, and Conte had the honor of providing the finishing block. It was Jackson’s sixth touchdown in 27 career punt returns. He was the Devin Hester of college football.

    Jackson has been nearly as dangerous in the NFL. A second-round draft pick (49th overall) by the Philadelphia Eagles in 2008, he had four punt returns for touchdowns in his first three seasons. In 2009, he became the first player in NFL history to make the Pro Bowl at two different positions, wide receiver and kick returner.

    But as good as Jackson is as a kick returner, Conte knows there’s only one Hester. ‘‘DeSean Jackson and [Hester], I think, are the two best return guys in the game,’’ Conte said. ‘‘They both have incredible speed to make anyone miss. It’s exciting to block for them because you want to be a part of something unique. And anytime they touch the ball, it can be a touchdown. But I think we’ve got the better guy. [Hester’s] on another level for sure.’’

    Conte is a Bears starting safety now. But he was on the kickoff team for Hester’s 73-yard return against the Carolina Panthers on Oct. 2 at Soldier Field.

    ‘‘I think it’s his vision that separates him,’’ Conte said. ‘‘[The ability] to see the return and know where the hole’s going to be — that ability to get small in holes and be able to shake and keep somebody from bringing you down. It’s definitely something nobody else has. He’s definitely on a different level than everybody else.’’

    With Hester and Jackson on the field, special teams will play a big part in the Bears-Eagles game Monday in Philadelphia. Hester already has a punt and kickoff return for a touchdown this season. Jackson is averaging just 5.3 yards on eight returns this season. But Bears special-teams coach Dave Toub has shown his players the tape of Jackson’s stunning 65-yard punt-return touchdown as time ran out to give the Eagles a 38-31 victory over the New York Giants last December.

    ‘‘He’s very dangerous,’’ said Toub, whose punt return unit is No.  1 in the NFL (4.6 yards allowed per return). ‘‘You don’t have to go back far to find big-time returns. We showed the Giants return again, where he dropped it and picked it up and ran it for a touchdown and won the game for them. He’s so dangerous. He’s the most explosive returner we’ll face this year. Our guys are very aware of that.’’

    Hester is just as dangerous and can strike at any time. You just never know when.

    But he has a knack for the spotlight. Eight of his 18 career return touchdowns have come in prime-time games.
    And the Eagles have a rookie punter in Chas Henry. Last year, Giants rookie Matt Dodge fired a line-drive punt to Jackson on the final play of the game. He’s still looking for work in the NFL.

    ‘‘I hope [Hester] keeps it up,’’ Toub said of Hester’s prime-time success. ‘‘He can do it at any time. Monday he just has a little more juice sometimes. He knows everybody’s watching. That plays a part in it. Everybody plays a little bit harder on Monday night.’’

    But when it comes to his return touchdowns, Hester doesn’t count them or analyze them. Monday night is just another opportunity to do what he does better than anybody. ‘‘I treat ’em all the same,’’ he said.
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    Well not only is our #1 coverage team in for a challenge on Monday but Conte will be playing a big role in shutting down Jackson as a WR too. It might be interesting to note that despite a lot of turnover on our punt coverage team Toub still has them playing at the top level. I think retaining Graham and signing Hurd has a lot to do with that.

    It's too bad Angelo isn't nearly as effective at restocking the offense. Or is it just possible that Dave Toub is the best coach/co-ordinator we've got? He's the only one who seems to get year to year consistency out of his group. I really hope we can keep him around because I think he'd make a good HC and I'd rather it be with the Bears than someone else. If we blow getting to the playoffs this year Lovie should be called to answer for it.

    Anyway as the article says it should be an interesting game for the ST's from both teams. Hester loves the prime time and he's due for a big year and I hope he gets another on Monday. We could use that shot in the arm because I think we'll need 30+ points to win this game.
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    I think we can win this game, soulman. Yeah, Philly wiped Dallas' ass for it, but Dallas is also not a very good team. Philly might have Nnamdi Asomugha, Babin, Jenkins on defense, and then Mike Vick, DeSean Jackson, and McCoy on offense, but they have grossly underperformed this season, and I just don't see them being able to run on our linebackers and our revamped defensive line. I can't wait for Urlacher and Peppers to run down Vick in the backfield, either.

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    I think we can win this game, soulman. Yeah, Philly wiped Dallas' ass for it, but Dallas is also not a very good team. Philly might have Nnamdi Asomugha, Babin, Jenkins on defense, and then Mike Vick, DeSean Jackson, and McCoy on offense, but they have grossly underperformed this season, and I just don't see them being able to run on our linebackers and our revamped defensive line. I can't wait for Urlacher and Peppers to run down Vick in the backfield, either.
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    I think we can win this game, soulman. Yeah, Philly wiped Dallas' ass for it, but Dallas is also not a very good team. Philly might have Nnamdi Asomugha, Babin, Jenkins on defense, and then Mike Vick, DeSean Jackson, and McCoy on offense, but they have grossly underperformed this season, and I just don't see them being able to run on our linebackers and our revamped defensive line. I can't wait for Urlacher and Peppers to run down Vick in the backfield, either.
    My concerns are that they added so many key players on defense that it took a few games for the chemistry to develop and they're just now hitting their stride. They've got some scary guys on that defense so everybody on ours will have to have their best games to date. I think we'll need 30+ points to win this game and I wouldn't count on Hester or the defense to get any.

    The real advantage we have is that our defense has always risen to the task when they've played Vick in the past. We had him stymied last year before we gave up a couple of late scores because we relaxed too much. Just because we've played him tough before doesn't mean he isn't due for a big game against us. Defense has to contain him and not give him time to go deep. That's where he can hurt us.
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    My concerns are that they added so many key players on defense that it took a few games for the chemistry to develop and they're just now hitting their stride. They've got some scary guys on that defense so everybody on ours will have to have their best games to date. I think we'll need 30+ points to win this game and I wouldn't count on Hester or the defense to get any.

    The real advantage we have is that our defense has always risen to the task when they've played Vick in the past. We had him stymied last year before we gave up a couple of late scores because we relaxed too much. Just because we've played him tough before doesn't mean he isn't due for a big game against us. Defense has to contain him and not give him time to go deep. That's where he can hurt us.
    Read my thread on the Keys to Victory. I think I hit on most of your points in there. Meanwhile, I think we will win by something like 27-20. Philly has been playing the weak competition out in the NFC East, so I really don't have any respect for them in terms of the quality of the opponents they have played outside the Giants.

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