Thread: O-line??? Oh Please Don't Give Angelo Crdit For That.............

When I first read this my only thought was don't you even think about giving Jerry Angelo credit for this Offensive Line. Jerry Angelo gets credit for what they looked like in the first game against the Lions and Mike Tice gets the credit for anything else.

I'll give Angelo some credit for a few of the good picks he's made and for the trades for Cutler and Peppers who are both difference makers we would never have gotten in the draft but it stops there. Jerry Angelo always does half his job. He gets a top QB but fails to get him a top receiver who is also a difference maker and so we play second fiddle to the Packer and that's one of the main reasons.

Jerry Angelo spends two higher draft choices on the Oline in 9 years and leaves that star QB exposed to a career ending injury before Mike Tice produces a near miracle and gets these guys turned around enough for Cutler to survive. I'm not handing out any pro-bowl ballots to any of them yet.

Jerry Angelo signs Julius Peppers because in nine years he couldn't draft a decent pass rushing DE besides Alex Brown and Alex is no Julius Peppers on Pep's worst day. He still hasn't done it since the next best DE we have came via Canada and free agency.

Sorry but if this was baseball Jerry Angelo would be a .230 hitter with a couple of home runs and about 30 RBI's for the season. In baseball he's second string left handed hitting outfielder who plays twice a month and pinch hits infrequently. As a football GM he's not even in the top 20. The columist was right. Fire him and find football's answer to Theo Epstein now!

I wonder how much Angelo leaned on Tice for the recent Oline pics. It isn't something discussed, but it seems like he has. We're very thin on oline now and can't endure another injury this year.

Max protect or not, as long as the offense can have as few sacks as they did against the Eagles and are able to put a couple TD on the board, then they're doing their jobs. I still think we should invest in either a tackle and guard (if we keep tice regardless of price, the competition of 2 high round picks on the o-line will help immeasurably), either through the draft or FA. i think what will be the most exposed in the post season would be our lack of a WR, unless someone other than Bennett really steps up, or if they can just get ****** open more often.

Originally Posted by blinddeafmute

I wonder how much Angelo leaned on Tice for the recent Oline pics. It isn't something discussed, but it seems like he has. We're very thin on oline now and can't endure another injury this year.

Yeah gotta see what we've got in these guys from the PS now. Horn has been around for a year so maybe he's reaching the point where he knows enough of the offense to be a halfway decent sub but I think Henry only got activated to keep the Saints from stealing him. Still, if someone else was interested the guy must have impressed them somewhere along the line.

I'll settle for anything just as long as OMG doesn't play again. It's hard to figure why the guy is still even on the roster.

Originally Posted by motownbear

All I got to say is our oline is so good we cant even run he offense they are being paid to block for. Yeah good job patching together the wrong guys JA!! Max protect is making them look better then what they are

Mo nobody on the entire offense can run Martz's offense the way it's drawn up. Not even Cutler. When we run the ball and throw off of shorter drops, use play action and allow Cutler some freedom to leave the pocket the blocking is acceptable. Not all-pro but good enough to win behind. We're not the only team who uses max protect for downfield pass plays. The Packers do it all the time.

I give all the credit to Tice for finding a couple of these guys and realizing that he could make decent lineman out of them. Whatever Angelo had to do with it came more by accident than intent although some will shower him with praise for his genius in drafting Louis and Webb but without Tice they wouldn't even be on the team.

My hope is that these guys can come together enough that when we get Carimi and CWill back healthy again next year all it will take is one more good vet thrown into the mix to compete for a starting spot and the combination of guys we have will provide us with a very good line. Both Louis and Webb have come on strong in recent weeks and the OC spot looks good with Garza and he'll be staying around so it looks like Spencer will stay at OG where he seems to play better then he ever did at OC anyway.

I think where we're hurting the most is that we don't have enough depth at OT. Unless this kid Horn is another of Tice's UDFA miracles (which I doubt) we need someone to be a vet backstop to Webb and Carimi or if he plays LT and can beat Webb out all the better. I think that's where the focus should be again during the next FA period and this time maybe Angelo won't miss. We need more depth Tice can't keep pulling rabbits out of his hat with second rate guys.

Originally Posted by soulman

Angelo not only struck gold with 2008 second-round pick Matt Forte, but he’s getting the maximum return on his investment with his gutsy, perhaps risky, but certainly deft handling of Forte’s request for a contract extension. And Angelo always will be the guy who drafted Devin Hester, the greatest kick returner in NFL history. (Gimme a break. You call the way he's handled the Forte extension deft???? I'd call it foolish and clumsy and while I'll give him credit for drafting Hester I'm giving him demerit points for calling him a #1 WR and paying him like one. Maybe he needs to pay the #1 RB like one instead and pay Hester like the #1 Return Specialist of all time and a decent enough #3 WR)

I think that must have been a typo. DAFT not DEFT.


This O-line has been playing better, max protect and things, hope they can keep it up. When some of your starters should be backups, and some of your backups should be stocking shelves at wallmart (lookin' at you OhMyHell) it does bring up some question marks when injuries happen. It took us 4-5 weeks to get the starters to play at a decent level, I am really concerned that there will be a regress or dropoff for a couple games. EWill hopefully can step right in, and hopefully we don't have any more injuries.

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

Max protect or not, as long as the offense can have as few sacks as they did against the Eagles and are able to put a couple TD on the board, then they're doing their jobs. I still think we should invest in either a tackle and guard (if we keep tice regardless of price, the competition of 2 high round picks on the o-line will help immeasurably), either through the draft or FA. i think what will be the most exposed in the post season would be our lack of a WR, unless someone other than Bennett really steps up, or if they can just get ****** open more often.

I'm with ya' on this one Henry. Like I said in the post above we need more depth at OT. The injury to Carimi makes that obvious. If we can use FA to find a good veteran OT to compete with Webb and if this kid Horn can at least hold his own at OT (he was playing OG in the preseason) we'll have stabilized the outside of the line. The interior is staring to look good now that Garza and Spencer have adapated to their roles. EWill gets some starting experience now and when we get CWill back next year and Louis can move back to OG we have some pretty good depth inside. It's at OT where we're weak.

If we can get that done in FA it allows us to use the draft to find a bigger WR for Cutler. RWill is a waste and few teams will let guys like him in size go so we end up overpaying for crappy talent. We have to take a chance that maybe guys like Michael Floyd or Al Toon Jr. can come in and step into a starting role without taking three years to develop. That seems like the only way we're ever gonna get Cutler what he needs in the way of another dependable WR with some size. We also need the higher draft picks to get another LB and a DE. Those are spots we're thin at on defense unless for some reason Wootton starts playing like everyone thinks he's capable of but we'll nevr know unless he can stay healthy.