Thread: Angelo's Critics Silent???? Not Around Here Scoop Jackson..........

Ugh. Ok. I love football. Love to watch/play/coach anyway I can be involved, because I love football. The thing that kills me the most with the Bears is the unrealized potential. Bears win a couple games in a row and we should all just go ahead and admit that we were all wrong, how JA is smarter than everyone else in the whole frickin world, that we don't really need a real #1 receiver, or any help on the O-line? Is that it? Shut up with that steaming magical pile of horse sh!t. As good as the Bears are right now (and how good is that, exactly? I don't see any Lombardi's gracing Halas Hall, save the one won over 25 years ago) how much better could they be, had the team made a couple acquisitions like everyone and their freakin mother wanted them to?

I must admit, Tice seems to be, at the moment anyway, making some chicken salad, but how much better off would the team be if they had started with some chicken at the beginning of the season, rather than the chicken sh!t they had? Great, Bennett's return has helped immensely, go Bennett! But how much better would the receiving corp be with a true #1 added in free agency? WE WILL NEVER KNOW!! Win a Super Bowl, Angelo, then I will believe in your garbage, and the fickle media can tickle your ***** however they please, I will not. I will be happy to eat crow served buffet style after this JA led team wins a couple super bowls. That is what is most unbelievably upsetting, the core group of players on this team have the talent to achieve that. But instead, we might just get treated to a second helping of the cheese heads winning it all. I have never seen anyone challenging the decisions of their GM....

Here's another guy who wants to give Angelo credit for the Bears resurgence!!! Jeez Scoop, get real will ya'. How many passes did old Jer pick off in these last few games? How many fumbles did he cause? Was that Earl Bennett catching those passes or was it Jerry Angelo wearing #80? Did Jerry Angelo chase Mike Vick all over the field disguised as Julius Peppers with a bad knee???

If you think Jerry Angelo had anything to do with this turnaround Scoop you just don't know the Chicago Bears very well. This past offseason Jerry Angelo failed to do the two things that were plainly needed to stay in competition with the best in the NFL. He did not get a vet OT and he did not get Jay Cutler a dependable #1 WR with enough size to work the middle of the field successfully.

You weren't wrong in what you wrote a month ago. What the Chicago Bears were at that point in time is exactly what Jerry Angelo left them in a condition to be. A second class team without the top talent to compete with the best in the NFL. All we heard were his excuses for not filling those obvious holes in the offense and a snide comment that the player talent was there but maybe they or their coaches just weren't putting it together.

Well Jer, they did put it togther no thanks to you and you should be down on your knees kissing the asses of those players and coaching staff for the likelihood is that they saved your ass from being fired before the season was through!

Credit Mike Tice for doing a great job with the talent you left him with despite losing his two best lineman. Credit Jay Culter for finally going to Mike Martz and telling him the way "his" offense should be run, not the way Martz wanted it run. And credit Lovie Smith and Rod Marinelli for realizing the pass rush still wasn't good enough to play that Cover-2 against great WR and making the needed adjustements.

Credit Jay Cutler who you won't give the needed personnel to allow him to be great. Credit Matt Forte for having a career season and risks his career every week while he fights to get fairly compensated. Credit Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, Charles Tillman and Julius Peppers for taking over the leadership of this defense and getting that side of the ball back on track. And credit a bunch of second string Olineman for stepping up to the big leagues when they were needed most.

That's who gets the credit Scoop, not Jerry Angelo. His toughest job since the season began has been answering Larry Mayer's questions every Wednesday so he could have a feature in Bears News on the official site. Jerry Angelo's critics are alive and well and quite a few of them call this place home. We just don't write daily sports columns that are read by millions but we do know who to give credit to for the Bears resurgence and it sure as hell isn't Jerry Angelo!

Here let me make it even plainer:

Fire Jerry Angelo!!!!!!!

He's doing great with a few amazing players, and is finding gems left and right (Louis, Conte, Knox, Briggs) after the 2nd round, but for the love of god, if we keep him, PLEASE draft more o-linemen and WRs in the first 2. Granted, he got burned twice by receivers, but how many times did it take the lions to find their guy?

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

He's doing great with a few amazing players, and is finding gems left and right (Louis, Conte, Knox, Briggs) after the 2nd round, but for the love of god, if we keep him, PLEASE draft more o-linemen and WRs in the first 2. Granted, he got burned twice by receivers, but how many times did it take the lions to find their guy?

Lol, 4 sir, if I remember correctly...And even after all that, it took the Lions an 0-16 season before they finally canned that piece of work Millen

Guess there's at least a couple of us who think Scoops editor should let him dig up that piece he wrote a month ago and print eh? Apologize to Angelo????? For what????? The day I see him playing QB and heaving 60 yard TD passes and playing MLB and making 20 tackles, 2 sacks, a pick and a fumble recovery in game I'll buy him the biggest and most expensive steak dinner in Chicago. Jerry Angelo is a bonehead and what's happening isn't due to his efforts. In fact it's happening in spite of them. Maybe it's like in the movie "Major League". They have an effigy of him in the locker room with donkey ears on it and players take turns trying to pin the tail on it blindfolded during pregame.

Originally Posted by claymore58

Must be a slow sports day,if he wants to eat some crow,so be it.
I am not,nor will I ever be on the JA bandwagon.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
As much as I hate to admit it,it's coaching and flexibility that has carried the team;
that and some solid play from the players.
I am always happy for a Bears win,but I'm not sure how far they can go.
The league is a mess this year,it's anyones' playoff to take.
GB,Niners, and NE seem the teams to beat.
It will be fun to see how it all shakes out,and how Christmas day figures into it.

And I think that's exactly the way it's been with him claymore. Every diamond in the rough he finds is preceded by three lumps of coal. I truly think this years draft may be the best he's ever had since Carimi, Paea and Conte all look like they'll be core starters for years to come but let's not forget that he he had Ruskell looking over his shoulder, Tice pushing him to get Carimi, and a former Bears coach touting Conte to them. Maybe the best that can be said is that he's finally enlisting the help of others where his own knowledge fails.

It seems some writers want to give him credit for sticking to his guns on Forte and I think all it does is show him up as a fool. It seems that everybody but him knew the DWill deal would set the benchmark for Forte, not CJ and not AP. If rumors are correct what Forte is asking for is similar to what DWill got in the way of a guarantee ($21 mil) and the Bears are offering a third less ($14 mil). I think if Angelo would have met him half way instead of crowing about what a lucrative deal he offered this might be over and done.

I think the idea that holding out on him has somehow motivated him to the type of year he's having is utter bullshit. The guy spent the offeseason becoming stronger, quicker and more elusive and it shows everytime he touches the ball. Matt Forte is a proud man and he should be. Whether or not he got his extension he came in ready to play and prove he deserved his piece of the pie. He even called it when he said all the delay would do is make it more expensive for the Bears and that's exactly what he's done.

If he finishes the year at or very near the top of the NFL in total yards from scrimmage and becomes a key to our playoff success it's gonna be real hard to deny him that elite status and bigger better deal than he may have been willing to accept in September. Other teams have shown a willingness to pony up for their feature backs and pretty soon the Bears only leverage will be that franchise tag. They'll undoubtedly use it but that won't make Forte a happy camper and stuff like that trickles down to others.

Jerry Angelo had a miserable offseason for a guy with all of that $$$ in his pocket and it's only the efforts of the players and coaching staff that's bailing him out right now. He has a bunch of guys due for extensions this year or early next and to me the only way he'll even get close to getting back in my good graces is if he cements the core of this team with those extensions and doesn't miss filling that huge hole at WR again.