Thread: The Mike Martz thread

Originally Posted by motownbear

Only name I got is Terry Shea lmfao

probably would just be Tice if I was betting on it.

Maybe we can coax Kurt Warner out of retirement to coach? Probably not wise, though, since he has zero coaching experience.

[QUOTE=Papa Bear;852737]If Martz does leave for the ASU job after this year, it'd be nice to at least find someone who runs a similar offense as him so there is as much overlap as possible. Any good coaching options out there for that?[/QUOTE]

J E R E M Y B A T E S !!!!!!!!!!!!

Bates was Cutler's OC in Denver during his probowl season ansd while most credit Mike Shanahan for the playcalling Cutler had a very close relationship with Bates and likes him. We had an interest in him before he chose Seattle and Pete Carroll but Carroll fired him after one season over philosophical differences and he's coaching at the college level again. I'd be willing to bet he'd be more interested this time.

I hope the new OC can pick his wr coach unlike the last one who has Drake

It does sort of make you wonder doesn't it? Once again Martz's play calling has a negative effect on a QB's performance. I don't care what Lovie says that we still a crappy game plan and once again Martz goes away from a running game that was averaging over 5 yards per carry.

I thought alot about this over the past 24 hours and I say it's time to cut our losses. Mike Martz just isn't the right guy. Whenever he isn't chided into running the football he slips right back into his own ways and in some way I think he set Hanie up to fail. Maybe that's why he was so jubilant after the game.

It's time for some offensive consistency and since we haven't 100% sold out to the Martz approach and his personnel needs I say let him go to ASU if that's where he's interested in going. IMO after this he's worn out his welcome in the NFL.


Baffling play-calling makes you wonder about Mike Martz’s future
November 28, 2011 9:42PM
Offensive coordinator Mike Martz’s play-calling didn’t really help Caleb Hanie. | Tom Cruze~Sun-Times

Updated: November 29, 2011 4:41PM


They hold the elevator so assistant coaches in the booth upstairs can get down to the locker room after a game. The Raiders’ assistants were long gone. Seconds passed, then minutes. Finally, a security guard at O.co Coliseum knocked on the door and reminded Mike Martz that the elevator was waiting.
The Bears’ smiling offensive coordinator emerged, briefcase in hand, so seemingly carefree that you half-expected him to break into song.

His quarterback’s first NFL start was a disaster. All Caleb Hanie had to do Sunday was not turn the ball over and the Bears win their sixth in a row. Instead, he throws three interceptions, and the Bears lose 25-20. The game ended with Hanie unable to throw a pass at the ground without drawing a penalty.
A few minutes later, after a disaster largely of his own making, Martz emerges looking like he just had a three-hour massage.

General manager Jerry Angelo and coach Lovie Smith are facing a decision that will help shape the franchise moving forward. Martz’s contract expires after this season. They can re-sign Mad Mike and maintain his relationship with Jay Cutler or they can tell him what cameras caught Cutler screaming at Martz earlier this season and start over with a different and hopefully more predictable coordinator.
Compelling reasons can be made in either case.

Cutler’s evolution has been as painful to watch as it has been for Cutler to endure, but it was finally paying dividends. It has been decades since the Bears have had a quarterback playing as well as Cutler was before he broke his thumb against the Chargers. Martz deserves credit for that.

The offense had scored at least 30 points in three consecutive games before Cutler was injured. Think about that. The Bears’ offense. Thirty points per game.

Just when it was looking like Martz’s offense could be a good fit in Chicago after all, a game unfolds like Sunday’s. Martz’s play-calling was as baffling as ever against the Raiders. A screen pass into heavy traffic when you’re already in field-goal range? Really? For every brilliant play call, there are three that make you wonder if they were drawn up after three too many cocktails.

The game plan called for matching Matt Forte up against the Raiders’ overmatched linebackers. It made all kinds of sense. Hanie could roll out and throw easy-to-complete passes and let Forte do the rest.
What happened to the game plan?

A time like this makes you wonder if the Bears would be better off with Mike Tice designing and calling plays. Tice was a college quarterback. His son is a quarterback at Wisconsin. He has done a commendable job patching together offensive lines the last two years and is deserving of a promotion. Surely he would realize when it was time to run the ball and kick a field goal.

Stability might be best for Cutler. He should be consulted. His input should carry weight. If that means outsiders say the inmates are running the asylum, so be it.

The roster has been remade with his offense in mind. Greg Olsen is gone. Martz has played a major role in selecting quarterbacks in the last two drafts. To hire a new coordinator means reshaping the roster once again. The new guy might not like fifth-round pick Nathan Enderle. He might want a tight end like Olsen. It would mean learning a new offense, starting over.

Winning in Oakland isn’t as easy as it was a few years ago. The Raiders are improved. People should be able to separate themselves from their jobs regardless of how consuming it might be. Nobody expects a coordinator to stomp around or sulk after a loss no matter how questionable his game plan.

But seeing Martz on the brink of whistling a tune while Bears and Raiders were shaking hands at midfield was strange indeed.

The elevator is waiting. After games like that, it’s difficult to decide whether Martz should get on or off.

Maybe the bottom line in all this is Martz takes a handful of games to adapt and improvise whereas other OC's take seemingly less than that. I think he's showing more of his tendencies in playcalling as well and will be even more so now w/Hanie I believe.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

Maybe the bottom line in all this is Martz takes a handful of games to adapt and improvise whereas other OC's take seemingly less than that. I think he's showing more of his tendencies in playcalling as well and will be even more so now w/Hanie I believe.

But shorty we don't have the luxury of his taking a handful of games to adapt when we're in a playoff race. He's had two years to adapt himself to these guys and once again he comes out firing. In a game that screamed for emphasis on the run he passes almost 60% of the game including that boner call inside the red zone that cooked out goose.

Let's face it Martz will never be happy in this offense and we'll never be happy until he's out of it.

What about Toub as OC...if Martz does go? Tice's name is brought up quite a bit, and I'd be cool with him, but Toub, as usual is being over looked IMO. That is, unless he's not an " offense " guy I guess