Breaking down Angelo’s draft picks
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Breaking down Angelo’s draft picks for Bears
The Bears fired general manager Jerry Angelo on Tuesday, and here’s a look at each of his NFL draft classes along with my comment on the player’s impact: 2002 1. OT Marc Colombo: Injured as Bear but became starter in Dallas. 3a. CB Roosevelt Williams: Bust who lasted just one year 3b. OG Terrence Metcalf: 7-year backup struggled as starter 4a. DE Alex Brown: Long-time solid starter 5a. S Bobby Gray: Stuck for a while as big hitter 5b. LB Bryan Knight: Lasted 2 years, made no impact 6a. RB Adrian Peterson: Solid backup, special teams star 6b. WR Jamin Elliott: Marginal NFL player at best
6c. TE Bryan Fletcher: Practice squad for 1 year 2003 1a. DL Michael Haynes: Classic example of a bust 1b. QB Rex Grossman: Got Bears to Super Bowl; Redskins starter 2. CB Charles Tillman: Long-time starter, now a Pro Bowler
3. LB Lance Briggs: Selected to 7 straight Pro Bowls 4a. S Todd Johnson: Backup for several years 4b. DT Ian Scott: Role player for a couple years 5a. WR Bobby Wade: 8-year career, 3 with Bears 5b. WR Justin Gage: Occasional starter for Bears, Titans 5c. DT Tron LaFavor: Lasted one year 6a. LB Joe Odom: Looked like Tarzan, played like Jane 6b. RB Brock Forsey: Brief starter in short career 7. OG Bryan Anderson: College starter, NFL washout 2004 1. DT Tommie Harris: Injuries derailed 3-time Pro Bowler 2. DT Tank Johnson: Solid starter with off-field problems 3. WR Bernard Berrian: 2 productive years as deep threat 4a. CB Nate Vasher: Spectacular in ’05; mediocre otherwise 4b. LB Leon Joe: That dog won’t hunt 5a. DE Claude Harriott: Blink and you missed his “career” 5b. QB Craig Krenzel: Superior intellect; inferior player 7. CB Alfonso Marshall: Lasted 1 year as special teams guy 2005 1. RB Cedric Benson: Multiple 1,000-yard seasons – in Cincy 2. WR Mark Bradley: He thought he was a star; no one agreed 4. QB Kyle Orton: Part of Cutler trade; still serviceable starter 5. WR Airese Currie: Track star whose career went up in smoke 6. S Chris Harris: Physical hitter; starter in 2 stints with Bears 7. LB Rod Wilson: Solid special teams player 2006 2a. S Danieal Manning: Star returner never as good as his tools
2b. WR Devin Hester: Best all-time KR; disappointing as WR 3. DT Dusty Dvoracek: Flashed talent but injuries took toll 4. LB Jamar Williams: Special-teamer and fringe backup 5. DE Mark Anderson: Never matched 12-sack rookie season 6a. RB J.D. Runnels: Hurt a lot; played very little 6b. OG Tyler Reed: Looked and played like a furniture mover 2007 1. TE Greg Olsen: Productive receiver, traded to Panthers 2. DE Dan Bazuin: Bust who couldn’t overcome injuries
3a. RB Garrett Wolfe: Biggest contributions were on S-T 3b. LB Michael Okwo: Couldn’t play a lick 4. OG Josh Beekman: Failed in only season as a starter 5a. S Kevin Payne: Great in ’08, then he disappeared
5b. CB Corey Graham: Pro Bowl special-teamer, solid backup 7a. CB Trumaine McBride: Enjoyed some early success 7b. OT Aaron Brant: Never even got his feet wet 2008 1. OL Chris Williams: Marginal starter ended season on I.R.
2. RB Matt Forte: Pro Bowler; Angelo’s best offensive pick
3a. WR Earl Bennett: Solid possession guy has shown flashes 3c. DT Marcus Harrison: Fat and lazy no way to go through life 4. S Craig Steltz: Coming off best season, started last 4 games
5a. CB Zack Bowman: Starter in ’09 played way out of lineup
5c. TE Kellen Davis: Strong blocker led team with 5 TD catches 7a. DE Ervin Baldwin: Good college pass rusher who flopped 7b. OG Chester Adams: One of many OL’s lacking in NFL talent 7c. LB Joey LaRocque: Brief stay as special teamer 7d. OT Kirk Barton: See Chester Adams
7e. WR Marcus Monk: Better basketball player 2009 3b. DT Jarron Gilbert: Better in pool than on field 3c. WR Juaquin Iglesias: Good college player lacked special skills 4a. DT Henry Melton: Coming off breakout season with 7 sacks
4b. CB D.J. Moore: Valuable, little nickel guy makes big plays
5a. WR Johnny Knox: Big-play guy must overcome back injury 5b. LB Marcus Freeman: Smart guy who couldn’t play
6. S Al Afalava: Flavor of the month who quickly fizzled 7b. OL Lance Louis: 2011 ORT starter who belongs at OG 7c. WR Derek Kinder: Big and physical, but not very good 2010 3. S Major Wright: Hurt a lot; hasn’t put it all together yet
4. DE Corey Wootton: Hasn’t done much; make or break in 2012 5. CB Joshua Moore: Practice squadder running out of time 6. QB Dan LeFevour: Should’ve kept him instead of Caleb Hanie 7. OT J’Marcus Webb: OLT starter had ups and downs in 2011 2011 1. OT Gabe Carimi: Looked like real deal until knee injury
2. DT Stephen Paea: Showed flashes but needs to do more 3. S Chris Conte: Ankle injury derailed promising season 5. QB Nathan Enderle: Never got a chance but could move up 6. LB J.T. Thomas: Latest in long line of LB’s who can’t play 7. RB Harvey Unga: Harvey, we hardly knew ye.
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2001 - 0/6 remaining
2002 - 0/9 remaining
2003 - 2/12 remaining (Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman)
2004 - 0/8 remaining
2005 - 0/6 remaining
2006 - 1/7 remaining (Devin Hester)
2007 - 0/9 remaining
2008 - 6/12 remaining (Chris Williams, Matt Forte, Earl Bennett, Craig Steltz, Zack Bowman, and Kellen Davis)
2009 - 4/9 remaining (Henry Melton, D.J. Moore, Johnny Knox, and Lance Louis)
2010 -4/5 remaining (Major Wright, Corey Wootton, Joshua Moore, J'Marcus Webb)
2010 Supplemental draft pick, 4th round (Harvey Unga. No longer with the team)
2011 5/5 remaining (Gabe Carimi, Stephen Paea, Chris Conte, Nathan Enderle, James Thomas)
Looking at it like that, JA hasnt been THAT bad at drafting. Its more he has a problem drafting certain positions (WR, OL), then it is him being able to find talent in the draft.
And, i would change the Benson pick to green, he may have had a troubled time here in Chicago, but that was more in his head, then it has anything to do with his talent, or JA's decision to draft him.
Originally Posted by gammabears
Lb's detail means much more.
It would be impossible for all of those draft picks to still be on the team... Unless they changed the rules to allow 89 man fosters.
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Duh they can't all be on the roster, but the fact only one player from the 2005-2007 draft years is left on the team says a lot.
No, it actually means nothing. That was 6 and 4 years atgo. With the average NFL career being much less than that you have to look at the details of who was drafted and their individual impact.
Originally Posted by gammabears
05 had Benson, orton, and Harris.
Benson has had a great year in the nnati, we dropped him to draft forte.... Was that a bad move?
Harris had several good years before going to Carolina in a trade.... Was that a bad move?
Orton was gaded for Cutler.... Was that a bad move?
Your numbers don't mean Crap.
So you're telling me that players from 2005-2007 are not playing the league right now because the avg is against that? I'm looking at the list from the 2005 draft and they're still a lot players still in the league.
and yes, LB's info is more detailed.
Last edited by gammabears; 01-04-2012 at 11:15 AM.
Originally Posted by gammabears
I'm saying your numbers don't prove anything, and gave you one example of why. I also followed that up with another post in more detail, and could provide many more examples.
Sorry didn't see that after I had posted. Yeah, Harris had some good years and the Cutler trade was remarkable. Not saying Angelo didn't have any upside. He got some great players, but a lot of depth is missing from this team because not a lot of the draft picks are no longer with this team.