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    Breaking down Angelo’s draft picks

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    Breaking down Angelo’s draft picks for Bears

    The Bears fired general manager Jerry Angelo on Tuesday, and here’s a look at each of his NFL draft classes along with my comment on the player’s impact:

    2002
    1. OT Marc Colombo: Injured as Bear but became starter in Dallas.
    3a. CB Roosevelt Williams: Bust who lasted just one year
    3b. OG Terrence Metcalf: 7-year backup struggled as starter
    4a. DE Alex Brown: Long-time solid starter
    5a. S Bobby Gray: Stuck for a while as big hitter
    5b. LB Bryan Knight: Lasted 2 years, made no impact
    6a. RB Adrian Peterson: Solid backup, special teams star
    6b. WR Jamin Elliott: Marginal NFL player at best
    6c. TE Bryan Fletcher: Practice squad for 1 year


    2003
    1a. DL Michael Haynes: Classic example of a bust
    1b. QB Rex Grossman: Got Bears to Super Bowl; Redskins starter
    2. CB Charles Tillman: Long-time starter, now a Pro Bowler
    3. LB Lance Briggs: Selected to 7 straight Pro Bowls

    4a. S Todd Johnson: Backup for several years
    4b. DT Ian Scott: Role player for a couple years
    5a. WR Bobby Wade: 8-year career, 3 with Bears
    5b. WR Justin Gage: Occasional starter for Bears, Titans
    5c. DT Tron LaFavor: Lasted one year
    6a. LB Joe Odom: Looked like Tarzan, played like Jane
    6b. RB Brock Forsey: Brief starter in short career
    7. OG Bryan Anderson: College starter, NFL washout

    2004
    1. DT Tommie Harris: Injuries derailed 3-time Pro Bowler
    2. DT Tank Johnson: Solid starter with off-field problems
    3. WR Bernard Berrian: 2 productive years as deep threat
    4a. CB Nate Vasher: Spectacular in ’05; mediocre otherwise
    4b. LB Leon Joe: That dog won’t hunt
    5a. DE Claude Harriott: Blink and you missed his “career”
    5b. QB Craig Krenzel: Superior intellect; inferior player
    7. CB Alfonso Marshall: Lasted 1 year as special teams guy

    2005
    1. RB Cedric Benson: Multiple 1,000-yard seasons – in Cincy
    2. WR Mark Bradley: He thought he was a star; no one agreed
    4. QB Kyle Orton: Part of Cutler trade; still serviceable starter
    5. WR Airese Currie: Track star whose career went up in smoke
    6. S Chris Harris: Physical hitter; starter in 2 stints with Bears
    7. LB Rod Wilson: Solid special teams player

    2006
    2a. S Danieal Manning: Star returner never as good as his tools
    2b. WR Devin Hester: Best all-time KR; disappointing as WR

    3. DT Dusty Dvoracek: Flashed talent but injuries took toll
    4. LB Jamar Williams: Special-teamer and fringe backup
    5. DE Mark Anderson: Never matched 12-sack rookie season
    6a. RB J.D. Runnels: Hurt a lot; played very little
    6b. OG Tyler Reed: Looked and played like a furniture mover

    2007
    1. TE Greg Olsen: Productive receiver, traded to Panthers
    2. DE Dan Bazuin: Bust who couldn’t overcome injuries
    3a. RB Garrett Wolfe: Biggest contributions were on S-T

    3b. LB Michael Okwo: Couldn’t play a lick
    4. OG Josh Beekman: Failed in only season as a starter
    5a. S Kevin Payne: Great in ’08, then he disappeared
    5b. CB Corey Graham: Pro Bowl special-teamer, solid backup

    7a. CB Trumaine McBride: Enjoyed some early success
    7b. OT Aaron Brant: Never even got his feet wet

    2008
    1. OL Chris Williams: Marginal starter ended season on I.R.
    2. RB Matt Forte: Pro Bowler; Angelo’s best offensive pick
    3a. WR Earl Bennett: Solid possession guy has shown flashes

    3c. DT Marcus Harrison: Fat and lazy no way to go through life
    4. S Craig Steltz: Coming off best season, started last 4 games
    5a. CB Zack Bowman: Starter in ’09 played way out of lineup
    5c. TE Kellen Davis: Strong blocker led team with 5 TD catches

    7a. DE Ervin Baldwin: Good college pass rusher who flopped
    7b. OG Chester Adams: One of many OL’s lacking in NFL talent
    7c. LB Joey LaRocque: Brief stay as special teamer
    7d. OT Kirk Barton: See Chester Adams
    7e. WR Marcus Monk: Better basketball player


    2009
    3b. DT Jarron Gilbert: Better in pool than on field
    3c. WR Juaquin Iglesias: Good college player lacked special skills
    4a. DT Henry Melton: Coming off breakout season with 7 sacks
    4b. CB D.J. Moore: Valuable, little nickel guy makes big plays
    5a. WR Johnny Knox: Big-play guy must overcome back injury

    5b. LB Marcus Freeman: Smart guy who couldn’t play
    6. S Al Afalava: Flavor of the month who quickly fizzled

    7b. OL Lance Louis: 2011 ORT starter who belongs at OG
    7c. WR Derek Kinder: Big and physical, but not very good

    2010
    3. S Major Wright: Hurt a lot; hasn’t put it all together yet
    4. DE Corey Wootton: Hasn’t done much; make or break in 2012

    5. CB Joshua Moore: Practice squadder running out of time
    6. QB Dan LeFevour: Should’ve kept him instead of Caleb Hanie
    7. OT J’Marcus Webb: OLT starter had ups and downs in 2011

    2011
    1. OT Gabe Carimi: Looked like real deal until knee injury
    2. DT Stephen Paea: Showed flashes but needs to do more

    3. S Chris Conte: Ankle injury derailed promising season
    5. QB Nathan Enderle: Never got a chance but could move up
    6. LB J.T. Thomas: Latest in long line of LB’s who can’t play
    7. RB Harvey Unga: Harvey, we hardly knew ye.

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    2001 - 0/6 remaining
    2002 - 0/9 remaining
    2003 - 2/12 remaining (Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman)
    2004 - 0/8 remaining
    2005 - 0/6 remaining
    2006 - 1/7 remaining (Devin Hester)
    2007 - 0/9 remaining
    2008 - 6/12 remaining (Chris Williams, Matt Forte, Earl Bennett, Craig Steltz, Zack Bowman, and Kellen Davis)
    2009 - 4/9 remaining (Henry Melton, D.J. Moore, Johnny Knox, and Lance Louis)
    2010 -4/5 remaining (Major Wright, Corey Wootton, Joshua Moore, J'Marcus Webb)
    2010 Supplemental draft pick, 4th round (Harvey Unga. No longer with the team)
    2011 5/5 remaining (Gabe Carimi, Stephen Paea, Chris Conte, Nathan Enderle, James Thomas)

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    Looking at it like that, JA hasnt been THAT bad at drafting. Its more he has a problem drafting certain positions (WR, OL), then it is him being able to find talent in the draft.

    And, i would change the Benson pick to green, he may have had a troubled time here in Chicago, but that was more in his head, then it has anything to do with his talent, or JA's decision to draft him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gammabears View Post
    2001 - 0/6 remaining
    2002 - 0/9 remaining
    2003 - 2/12 remaining (Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman)
    2004 - 0/8 remaining
    2005 - 0/6 remaining
    2006 - 1/7 remaining (Devin Hester)
    2007 - 0/9 remaining
    2008 - 6/12 remaining (Chris Williams, Matt Forte, Earl Bennett, Craig Steltz, Zack Bowman, and Kellen Davis)
    2009 - 4/9 remaining (Henry Melton, D.J. Moore, Johnny Knox, and Lance Louis)
    2010 -4/5 remaining (Major Wright, Corey Wootton, Joshua Moore, J'Marcus Webb)
    2010 Supplemental draft pick, 4th round (Harvey Unga. No longer with the team)
    2011 5/5 remaining (Gabe Carimi, Stephen Paea, Chris Conte, Nathan Enderle, James Thomas)
    Worthless info...

    Lb's detail means much more.

    It would be impossible for all of those draft picks to still be on the team... Unless they changed the rules to allow 89 man fosters.

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    Duh they can't all be on the roster, but the fact only one player from the 2005-2007 draft years is left on the team says a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gammabears View Post
    Duh they can't all be on the roster, but the fact only one player from the 2005-2007 draft years is left on the team says a lot.
    No, it actually means nothing. That was 6 and 4 years atgo. With the average NFL career being much less than that you have to look at the details of who was drafted and their individual impact.

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    05 had Benson, orton, and Harris.

    Benson has had a great year in the nnati, we dropped him to draft forte.... Was that a bad move?

    Harris had several good years before going to Carolina in a trade.... Was that a bad move?

    Orton was gaded for Cutler.... Was that a bad move?

    Your numbers don't mean Crap.

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    So you're telling me that players from 2005-2007 are not playing the league right now because the avg is against that? I'm looking at the list from the 2005 draft and they're still a lot players still in the league.

    and yes, LB's info is more detailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gammabears View Post
    So you're telling me that players from 2005-2007 are not playing the league right now because the avg is against that? I'm looking at the list from the 2005 draft and they're still a lot players still in the league.

    and yes, LB's info is more detailed.
    Um.... No.

    I'm saying your numbers don't prove anything, and gave you one example of why. I also followed that up with another post in more detail, and could provide many more examples.

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    Sorry didn't see that after I had posted. Yeah, Harris had some good years and the Cutler trade was remarkable. Not saying Angelo didn't have any upside. He got some great players, but a lot of depth is missing from this team because not a lot of the draft picks are no longer with this team.

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