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    Bears' job could be tough sell for Miami's Fisch

    University of Miami offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch talks with Hurricanes quarterback Jacory Harris last August. (Miami Herald Photo)




    By Vaughn McClure, Tribune reporter 3:16 p.m. CST, January 25, 2012




    MOBILE, Ala. -- It might be difficult for the Chicago Bears to lure Jedd Fisch to Chicago from South Beach, and it has nothing to do with the weather.

    Fisch, now the offensive coordinator at the University of Miami, is high on the Bears' wish list for quarterbacks coach/passing game coordinator. But several coaches familiar with Fisch said the 36-year-old has no desire to leave Miami at this time.


    Part of Fisch's reservations, according to the coaches, has to do with the title of "passing game coordinator" and the duties that come with it
    . New offensive coordinator Mike Tice will call the plays in a revamped offense expected to be more run-oriented.

    One source said Fisch also might not want to uproot his family after his wife gave birth to their second daughter two years ago.

    That's not to say the Bears won't make a run at Fisch after his recruiting season ends Feb.1. Fisch did not respond to multiple messages left by the Tribune.

    Fisch was the receivers coach in Denver when Jay Cutler played there, and the Bears would like to hire someone Cutler would be comfortable working alongside. Fisch interviewed to be the Bears' quarterbacks coach in 2007, but Pep Hamilton got the job.

    The Bears interviewed former Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Greg Olson for their opening, but Olson was named the quarterbacks coach in Jacksonville. Tice wanted to add former Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter but Koetter was hired for the same position in Atlanta, And Titans quarterbacks coach/passing game coordinator Dowell Loggains had a strong desire to come work with Cutler until Tennessee denied the Bears' permission to interview him.

    The Bears continue to monitor the status of Colts offensive coordinator Clyde Christensen, who could remain in Indianapolis, depending on the wishes of newly named head coach Chuck Pagano. Christensen and Lovie Smith were on the same Buccaneers' staff.

    Ex-Seahawks offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates, Cutler's quarterbacks coach in Denver, will not be considered for the position.

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    So out of the Bears top three guys Koetter, and Olson took positions with other teams and their first choice, Loggains, a guy who reportedly wanted to come is denied permission by his current team. Maybe the Bears should have been more creative about his title so that it represented a promotion to a higher status.

    Bates isn't even on the list and most think there's no way Jed Fisch who is on the list will leave Miami for a team that already spurned him once before. Clyde Christensen's status is up in the air until the Colts new coach decides on his staff and now we're rumored to be considering Alex Van Pelt who wasn't even on the list when this whole process began.

    This is just so like the Bears to have a cluster fuck going on somewhere within the organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    So out of the Bears top three guys Koetter, and Olson took positions with other teams and their first choice, Loggains, a guy who reportedly wanted to come is denied permission by his current team. Maybe the Bears should have been more creative about his title so that it represented a promotion to a higher status.

    Bates isn't even on the list and most think there's no way Jed Fisch who is on the list will leave Miami for a team that already spurned him once before. Clyde Christensen's status is up in the air until the Colts new coach decides on his staff and now we're rumored to be considering Alex Van Pelt who wasn't even on the list when this whole process began.

    This is just so like the Bears to have a cluster fuck going on somewhere within the organization.
    At least they're getting some action, soul. You don't want to short change them on that.

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    At least they're getting some action, soul. You don't want to short change them on that.
    It's not a matter of short changing them Dags it's the fucked up way they go about filling positions on their coaching staff. Tice takes over as OC, announces that he'll call the plays but wants a Passing Game Coordinator/QB coach. Few want the job because of those conditions and possibly because of being unsure Tice would even stick with the Bears as opposed to heading for Oakland.

    Major League screw up there. When colleges are recruiting they don't do so well if the recruits think the coach is leaving. It's no different in the NFL.

    They had already ruled out Bates long ago but when Loggains name came up and Cutler nodded they went after him in a flash. Just one problem. He was under contract to the same team who asked for our permission to interview Tice for their OC last year and we refused. After that was there some reason we thought they'd say yes?

    The resports say the guy really wanted to come to be coaching Cutler again and was willing to accept the limitations of his role but he's under contract so it has to be a promotion. So why didn't we create as Asst OC/Passing Game Coordinator position so that for all intents and purposed it would have been a promotion and they'd have had to let him go.

    There's another fuck up if you ask me.

    With only one year of employment guaranteed you don't see many guys lining up to take the job and move their families to Chicago for what may turn out to be a very short stay. So like I said it's just a good old fashioned Bears cluster fuck again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    It's not a matter of short changing them Dags it's the fucked up way they go about filling positions on their coaching staff. Tice takes over as OC, announces that he'll call the plays but wants a Passing Game Coordinator/QB coach. Few want the job because of those conditions and possibly because of being unsure Tice would even stick with the Bears as opposed to heading for Oakland.

    Major League screw up there. When colleges are recruiting they don't do so well if the recruits think the coach is leaving. It's no different in the NFL.

    They had already ruled out Bates long ago but when Loggains name came up and Cutler nodded they went after him in a flash. Just one problem. He was under contract to the same team who asked for our permission to interview Tice for their OC last year and we refused. After that was there some reason we thought they'd say yes?

    The resports say the guy really wanted to come to be coaching Cutler again and was willing to accept the limitations of his role but he's under contract so it has to be a promotion. So why didn't we create as Asst OC/Passing Game Coordinator position so that for all intents and purposed it would have been a promotion and they'd have had to let him go.

    There's another fuck up if you ask me.

    With only one year of employment guaranteed you don't see many guys lining up to take the job and move their families to Chicago for what may turn out to be a very short stay. So like I said it's just a good old fashioned Bears cluster fuck again.
    soul, I was kidding you! I was meaning that as a double entendre.

    Other than that, I totally agree with what you say. The Bears tend to be the type that rub people the wrong way.

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    soul, I was kidding you! I was meaning that as a double entendre.

    Other than that, I totally agree with what you say. The Bears tend to be the type that rub people the wrong way.
    Oh......................never mind.
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    Oh......................never mind.
    Cheer up, ol' friend. Sometimes, even I make mistakes. lol

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    I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken. lol Isn't that how it goes?
    Yeah, in a sort of juxtaposed kind of way.

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    I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken. lol Isn't that how it goes?
    That once happened to me as well but I was relieved to find that I was mistaken. Of course that made me wrong about being wrong so now I'm really not sure if my record is still intact or not.
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