Thread: Could CWill Move Back to LT?............................

Originally Posted by WindyCity

I would love for us to sign a #1 WR and then we can finally draft a guy to play the LT position.

-We can stop the Webb experiment.

-We can stop playing musical positions.

LT: Adams
LG: Louis/C. Williams
C: Garza
RG: Spencer
RT: Carimi

I do not think that someone could name me a better and more realistic OL?

Imagine this offensive line:

LT: Adams
LG: Nicks/C. Williams
C: Garza
RG: Spencer/Louis
RT: Carimi

THAT...would make for a pretty potent unit right there if we as fans are heard and we dare to dream the impossible.

You know reading that article on Tice that less 7 step drops, quicker passes and the like are going to "help" Webb. I think that just masks the problem and makes the team less flexible in terms of what it can do offensively. Cwill was looking really good at LG. You would still then have to draft a G for the position. Move Webb back to RT and move Carimi to LT.

Failing that draft a LT or acquire a vet LT in FA.

In all honesty, I really cannot believe that a coach with Tice's knowledge would continue with the whole Web experiment. Webb has been my pet peave of the entire Chicago Bears offense for two years now. I have watched games trying to focus on his play alone (which is really hard to do, but I try) and I do NOT see what Coach Tice see's in this kid. The things they say he is good at (run blocking), he is not. They laud his athletic ability and his ability to make it to the next level and seal, but more often than not, when he gets there he goes for the wrong guy. I'm not sure if his physical skills are weaker than everyone says, or the mental part of the game is too much, but regardless, I never thought he was that great at the right side, and he progressed very little on the left side.

I don't think they ever gave Williams the chance that they should have, and at this point, Webb has had as much, or more opportunity than Williams. I would love to see Williams get another chance at LT. Here is my suggestion:

Move Williams back to LT
Draft Peter Konz at OC in the first
Move Garza back to OG
Put Spencer at OG
and Carimi at RT

Use Webb as the Swing Tackle, Lance Lewis as back-up Guard and Edwin Williams as back-up Guard/Center.
Pick up a Veteran #1 WR in FA and draft another in the 2nd. Take a look at OL again with the first pick in the 3rd; if a stud like Kevin Zeitler is still there, then grab him and say goodby to Edwin WIlliams or Lance Lewis.

Originally Posted by 4DaBERS

In all honesty, I really cannot believe that a coach with Tice's knowledge would continue with the whole Web experiment. Webb has been my pet peave of the entire Chicago Bears offense for two years now. I have watched games trying to focus on his play alone (which is really hard to do, but I try) and I do NOT see what Coach Tice see's in this kid. The things they say he is good at (run blocking), he is not. They laud his athletic ability and his ability to make it to the next level and seal, but more often than not, when he gets there he goes for the wrong guy. I'm not sure if his physical skills are weaker than everyone says, or the mental part of the game is too much, but regardless, I never thought he was that great at the right side, and he progressed very little on the left side.

I don't think they ever gave Williams the chance that they should have, and at this point, Webb has had as much, or more opportunity than Williams. I would love to see Williams get another chance at LT. Here is my suggestion:

Move Williams back to LT
Draft Peter Konz at OC in the first
Move Garza back to OG
Put Spencer at OG
and Carimi at RT

Use Webb as the Swing Tackle, Lance Lewis as back-up Guard and Edwin Williams as back-up Guard/Center.
Pick up a Veteran #1 WR in FA and draft another in the 2nd. Take a look at OL again with the first pick in the 3rd; if a stud like Kevin Zeitler is still there, then grab him and say goodby to Edwin WIlliams or Lance Lewis.

I don't think that I would be for drafting Konz in the first round simply because we have other needs with greater urgency than C. Garza looked really good at the position for most of the past season, and I think he's going to give the Bears a good 2-3 more years before he hangs them up.

In the first round, if we don't wind up drafting a LT, I would like to see us get a DE. Our pass rush is horrible at the five-technique holes, particularly where Israel Idonije at LE. He only recorded four sacks the entire season. There are plenty of pass rushers to go around for the Bears to get in the first round such as Courtney Upshaw, Melvin Ingram, and the University of Illinois' very own Whitney Mercilus.

I really see the first round turning into a "best player available" situation, to be very frank with you.

Originally Posted by yttocs

But, will it be the best football player or best athlete?

If this were Jerry Angelo we were talking about here, I'd say best athlete. We'll see what Emery is like. To me, he is a complete mystery right now.

Originally Posted by soulman

All speculation but a reasonable speculation given Webb less than standard play. I didn't know Webb rated lowest among NFL OT's but I knew he was nowhere near the top. This will certainly add ammunition to the arguement that we need to use our first round pick to draft an OT again this year.

While that's possible there is also the possibility of finding veteran help in FA or, as Jensen speculates, give CWill another shot at LT. The play of Chris Spencer and Lance Louis was good enough to potentially earn them the OG spots for now and EWill did well as CWill's replacement. Add to that the bodies of Ricky Henry and Levi Horn and we have a bit of a logjam at OG but as usual we're weak at OT. LT to be specific. CWill was picked in the first round to be that LT and last years first round pick was RT Gabe Carimi. Do we really want to spend another first round pick on drafting a LT when we have two on the roster who were drafted as LT's but don't play there?

As Jensen points out, there are other needs but if the Bears expect to get LT help in the draft it's not gonna come from a late round pick. Isn't that the problem we have already. For an entire year Tice has been trying to turn a former 7th round pick with great athleticism but a lack of great football skills and intelligence into Jay Cutler's blind side protector and it hasn't been working.

If Lovie,Tice and Emery decide that solving this problem is high on the needs list then I won't have any problem if we do draft a LT with our first round pick but if that happens we better be damn sure this one can actually play LT in the NFL. I'm tired of seeing us spend first round picks on LT's who don't end up playing LT and 7th round picks on guys who should be playing RT but we try to make a LT out of. If we're gonna do it at least get it right this time.

I agree with 99% of ur post but the Webb has great athleticism stuff doesn't fly w/ me. He's a phukin clod. And I don't see how this O-line gets any better w/o a serious upgrade at the most important position. F the late rounder BS when has it ever really panned out ? Get ur homework done and draft a good one or go get the best one in FA.