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Originally Posted by
soulman 
Adams maybe but DeCastro? Not a chance. The guy has a high first round grade on him and the only he reason he slides out of the first few picks is that he's an OG. Now if Tice could play him at LT then I would agree he'd beat out Webb.
I think I'm going to start a countdown to February 27, which is the day Free Agency starts.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81 I've made it clear a number of times that I don't want Michael Floyd with the number one overall pick in the draft. I want a LT or a DE, someone who could be used immediately from Day One. Why can't these damn anal-ysts see that we can always go out after a WR in free agency?
My major objection to taking Floyd or any WR in round 1 is less about "character concerns" (who among us didn't booze it up in college and/or foolishly drive when we shouldn't have? I certainly did. Unless you went to BYU, I'd say you're lying if you answered "never" to those two things) than it is about the simple mechanics and historical experiences of the situation.
WR is definitely a major need. It can be dealt with very effectively in FA and down-draft. Mid-1st round WR picks are fickle and unlikely to have significant rookie year impacts.
DE is a major need too (a little less pressing IMO). There are also options here in FA and possibly in rounds 1-2 that could help pretty quickly.
OT is also a huge need (as much as WR IMO). FA options are very limited and any pick beyond round 1 is probably just a depth/developmental pick only as far as 2012 goes.
Bottom line: As a "fantasy GM", I pass on Floyd and Jeffery even if they light it up at the Combine. I sign the best FA WR I can afford as a 2012 starter and draft a prospect (#2-3) or even a second (#4-6) for the future. I also pick up a vet safety and either a CB or LB for depth in FA. If a Pass rushing DE is possible, I'm willing to forgo the previous as well, but probably won't happen. In the draft, I focus hard on getting an OT "of today and the future" in round 1. That may involve trading up with a 3rd round pick. Rather not, but if needed, so be it. My vague plan would be...
1] Reiff/Martin/Adams (OT)
2] Vinny Curry/Andre Branch (DE)
3a] traded?
3b] Brian Quick? (whoever BPA big man WR)
4] BPA CB
5] BPA LB
6-7] BPAs
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Originally Posted by
MPBears68 My major objection to taking Floyd or any WR in round 1 is less about "character concerns" (who among us didn't booze it up in college and/or foolishly drive when we shouldn't have? I certainly did. Unless you went to BYU, I'd say you're lying if you answered "never" to those two things) than it is about the simple mechanics and historical experiences of the situation.
WR is definitely a major need. It can be dealt with very effectively in FA and down-draft. Mid-1st round WR picks are fickle and unlikely to have significant rookie year impacts.
DE is a major need too (a little less pressing IMO). There are also options here in FA and possibly in rounds 1-2 that could help pretty quickly.
OT is also a huge need (as much as WR IMO). FA options are very limited and any pick beyond round 1 is probably just a depth/developmental pick only as far as 2012 goes.
Bottom line: As a "fantasy GM", I pass on Floyd and Jeffery even if they light it up at the Combine. I sign the best FA WR I can afford as a 2012 starter and draft a prospect (#2-3) or even a second (#4-6) for the future. I also pick up a vet safety and either a CB or LB for depth in FA. If a Pass rushing DE is possible, I'm willing to forgo the previous as well, but probably won't happen. In the draft, I focus hard on getting an OT "of today and the future" in round 1. That may involve trading up with a 3rd round pick. Rather not, but if needed, so be it. My vague plan would be...
1] Reiff/Martin/Adams (OT)
2] Vinny Curry/Andre Branch (DE)
3a] traded?
3b] Brian Quick? (whoever BPA big man WR)
4] BPA CB
5] BPA LB
6-7] BPAs
Agree. And what better way for Emery to show he means business than trading up in the 1st rd and getting the LT that this team needs more than anything else. A WR does no good if the QB never has the time to get him the damn ball.
What should you call any : Fumble , Hold , Interception , Three and out , or Sack ?
A " F.H.I.T.S " ? or a J'Marcus ?
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81 I think I'm going to start a countdown to February 27, which is the day Free Agency starts.
March 5th, not Feb. 27th.
NFL Offseason: Important Dates
Monday, February 8: Waiver system begins. Teams may begin to release or waive players.
Thursday, February 11: Teams may begin to assign the franchise tag or transition tag to a player. Due to the uncapped year, teams may assign both a franchise and transition player, or two transition players.
Wednesday, February 24 – Tuesday, March 2: NFL Combine.
Thursday, February 25: Deadline for teams to assign franchise/transition tags.
Thursday, March 4: Deadline for teams to extend a qualifying offer to restricted free agents; if they do not, these players become unrestricted free agents.
Friday, March 5: Beginning of free agent signing period.
Friday, March 5: First day teams can make trades.
Thursday, April 15: Last day other teams can extend offer sheets to restricted free agents.
Thursday, April 22 – Saturday, April 24: 2010 NFL Draft.
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Edit: Those were 2011 dates. Here's 2012.
2012 NFL Important Dates
Deadline to Declare for Draft
January 15
Senior Bowl
January 28
NFL Combines
February 22 to February 28
Free Agency begins
March 13
NFL Draft
1st round...April 26
2nd & 3rd rounds...April 27
4th to 7th rounds...April 28
Cowboys Training Camp in Oxnard, CA
July 26
Week 1 of 2012 NFL Season begins
September 6
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Originally Posted by
Blue Horse-shoe Agree. And what better way for Emery to show he means business than trading up in the 1st rd and getting the LT that this team needs more than anything else. A WR does no good if the QB never has the time to get him the damn ball.
The trouble is there's a limit to how far we can trade up without it getting too costly. With a third round pick we can get to about 15 or 16 and that's it. You won't find Reiff there and probably not Martin but maybe Adams will last that long. Trading away any more than that jeopardizes the ability to draft other positions of need.
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Originally Posted by
soulman March 5th, not Feb. 27th.
NFL Offseason: Important Dates Monday, February 8: Waiver system begins. Teams may begin to release or waive players.
Thursday, February 11: Teams may begin to assign the franchise tag or transition tag to a player. Due to the uncapped year, teams may assign both a franchise and transition player, or two transition players.
Wednesday, February 24 – Tuesday, March 2: NFL Combine.
Thursday, February 25: Deadline for teams to assign franchise/transition tags.
Thursday, March 4: Deadline for teams to extend a qualifying offer to restricted free agents; if they do not, these players become unrestricted free agents.
Friday, March 5: Beginning of free agent signing period.
Friday, March 5: First day teams can make trades.
Thursday, April 15: Last day other teams can extend offer sheets to restricted free agents.
Thursday, April 22 – Saturday, April 24: 2010 NFL Draft.
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I thought FA started on March 13th.
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I too thought that free-agency began on March 13th, 2012?? I actually just heard them say it on NFL Network not even two hours ago.
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I'll double check it guys but this is what I pulled off a site half and hour ago.
My bad guys. Must have been last years. This is 2012.
2012 NFL Important Dates
Deadline to Declare for Draft
January 15
Senior Bowl
January 28
NFL Combines
February 22 to February 28
Free Agency begins
March 13
NFL Draft
1st round...April 26
2nd & 3rd rounds...April 27
4th to 7th rounds...April 28
Week 1 of 2012 NFL Season begins
September 6
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Assuming we do not get a free agent WR, how would you all feel about possibly dropping a few spots, gaining a pick (3rd or so) and taking Alshon? I know this is not the dream scenario, but I, for one, like Jeffrey better than Floyd, and I think he could be had a few spots later, say 22-24ish. What say ye?
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Originally Posted by
BossK Assuming we do not get a free agent WR, how would you all feel about possibly dropping a few spots, gaining a pick (3rd or so) and taking Alshon? I know this is not the dream scenario, but I, for one, like Jeffrey better than Floyd, and I think he could be had a few spots later, say 22-24ish. What say ye?
Personally I'd rather have him at #19 than I would Floyd but your scenario is something I've thought about. You never know how it will work out on draft day but in the past there has been somewhat of a herd mentality at times. If a run starts on OT's teams start jumping in that pond when the might be expected to.
If Emery has targeted a lineman on either side of the ball that he likes and that guy isn't there and he doesn't like what is there I could see him trading back for a better value pick and talking another 3rd rounder for it. I think we'll know more about some of these guys after the Combine and that may help to line them up as far as ranking them goes but until free agency is over it will still be hard to figure out what direction Emery may go with that first pick or two.
Unlike some of the other teams we've got a fairly nice purse to go FA shopping with so some issues will be solved there and that may change our priorities a lot. Right now it's all pretty raw speculation.
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