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    Quote Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox View Post
    I want absolutely no part of another first round TE. Some of you guys are so caught up in this "trend" of game-breaker TEs that you have totally lost grip of what we actually need as a team. Fuck the flashy, shiny new toy, of the league bullshit. Yeah, having an impact guy there is fun, but when it comes down to it, the league is still all about the trenches. Give me the impact in the trenches we all saw in the Giants, and THEN worry about the targets at the skills positions. Depending on what we do in FA, ie. re-signing Kellen, I wouldn't even want us to draft a TE PERIOD!
    Cannot rule it out, out of hand. Yes, the o-line still needs work, but we have Spaeth already for extra blocking, and Clutts isn't too bad either. Kellen is actually better at breaking tackles than Olsen, but not that much better of a blocker (Olson's last year with us he was decent). With all that said, having a game-changing TE isn't "the new thing", as the Broncos, Colts and Patriots have had really good ones in their day. Hell, a good part of the reason Philip Rivers' stats are so good is because of his TE. With that said, I do agree that WR and LT come first. If it takes all of the resources the Bears have to procure a couple of WRs, a LT and a DE, and Allen just can't be had, so be it. BUT, he's explosive enough, that he gives Cutler some help, and the dude matches up well against LB's. I don't agree with not needing playmakers at every position. The more weapons Cutler has, the better things will be; I'm just saying I would LOVE to get one of the two top TEs in the draft..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    Fair enough, but it would be worth trading back into the 1st to get Allen, if we got a quality LT at 19...
    I don't understand your strategy here.

    If we draft a quality LT @ 19 (Mike Adams being the only potential still available by that point), then how do you "get back into the 1st to get Allen"???

    He's sure to be a 1st rounder given the TE frenzy going on in the league, so how do you plan to get 2 1st round picks?

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    Anyone who says that this team's biggest needs aren't at the LT and DE positions, in that order, is crazy as hell. The Bears still have a solid defense, but it needs an extra pass rusher to balance out Peppers and the three technique position(s). Do you honestly want to go back out and average giving up 250 yards through the air against next season?

    Then there's the issue of LT. That is our biggest need on offense, not WR, though I would rank WR as 1b. For two years, we have watch Jay Cutler run for his life against superior pass rushes because of the ineptitude of J'Marcus Webb and, when he's been in the game, Frank Omiyale. We have finally found a solution for the interior of the offensive line: Chris Williams/Edwin Williams at LG, Garza/Spencer at C, and Spencer/Louis at RG. Carimi could become an All-Pro at RT if he ever stays healthy. So all we need to do is shore up LT and perhaps add another OT from free agency for additional depth, thus giving OMG the boot off the team. If we can't protect Cutler and give our running backs big, gaping holes to run through, how in the shit do you expect us to get the ball to any playmaker down the field? Really? Someone tell me that much, and if it's a sufficient answer...well, I won't go there.

    WR is a must too, but we have to prioritize those other positions first. Cutler can still complete better than 60% of his passes with the receivers we have, and it is true that we need some receiver who are taller than 6'0", but how do you expect to utilize even the elite ones if you aren't able to protect the quarterback? Nobody on this forum seems to get that simple concept, and until we as a collective do, and until the people at Halas Hall understand this (which I think Emery definitely has a firm grip on this situation), then we're going to continue to fall flat on our faces and underachieve when we should be out competing for championships.

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