Thread: Bears Offseason Plan [Meachem/Trade Up]

Originally Posted by short faced bear

If the Outland trophy winner (Carimi) isn't going to play LT nor is Cwill there is little chance of drafting yet another LT redraft. Tice doesn't want his experiment to fail and believes Martz gone will solve some of the problems. Tice himself said Webb graded out solid (to his not the media's) and has his path laid out well ahead in terms of chip-blocking and masking his abilities.

Now a inside out move like drafting OG DeCastro as many of us have discussed would push Webb back to either the bench or RT. I'd love to see a new LT in the draft but I really wouldn't bet on it.

Despite what Tice said the decision on whether or not we draft a LT is not his alone. Outside of WR to me the two biggest needs are another pass rusher and a LT. If Upshaw seems unfit for playing as a conventional DE from a 3 point stance then that leaves Coples and Ingram as the only two DE's with solid first round grades and Coples probably won't get past the 10th pick so that leaves Ingram.

I think there's a good chance that Adams will still be on the board at #19 because of Kalil and Reiff ranking ahead of him and possibly even Martin. Much depends on how these guys look at the Combine. So the choice may come down to Adams vs Ingram at #19. If Emery sees a DE we can get in the 2nd or 3rd and we've signed a FA DE then Adams may well represent the BPA at that point so that's how Emery rolls.

There is a need to fill, upgrade or add youth at so many spots there's no reason to reach for a player based on position and I don't think Emery will do that. He'll be looking either for guys who can contribute immediately or who he believes don't have fat to go to become starters. Good football players as opposed to good athletes. That inasmuch as anything puts Webb and his champion, Mike Tice, on notice that if he can't pick up his play he sits.

Emery also came straight out and said in his interview that he won't tip his hand so what Tice says may be total misdirection or it maybe 180 degrees opposite how Emery sees it. Right now I wouldn't count anything out.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

If the Outland trophy winner (Carimi) isn't going to play LT nor is Cwill there is little chance of drafting yet another LT redraft. Tice doesn't want his experiment to fail and believes Martz gone will solve some of the problems. Tice himself said Webb graded out solid (to his not the media's) and has his path laid out well ahead in terms of chip-blocking and masking his abilities.

Now a inside out move like drafting OG DeCastro as many of us have discussed would push Webb back to either the bench or RT. I'd love to see a new LT in the draft but I really wouldn't bet on it.

Despite what Tice said the decision on whether or not we draft a LT is not his alone. Outside of WR to me the two biggest needs are another pass rusher and a LT. If Upshaw seems unfit for playing as a conventional DE from a 3 point stance then that leaves Coples and Ingram as the only two DE's with solid first round grades and Coples probably won't get past the 10th pick so that leaves Ingram.

I think there's a good chance that Adams will still be on the board at #19 because of Kalil and Reiff ranking ahead of him and possibly even Martin. Much depends on how these guys look at the Combine. So the choice may come down to Adams vs Ingram at #19. If Emery sees a DE we can get in the 2nd or 3rd and we've signed a FA DE then Adams may well represent the BPA at that point so that's how Emery rolls.

There is a need to fill, upgrade or add youth at so many spots there's no reason to reach for a player based on position and I don't think Emery will do that. He'll be looking either for guys who can contribute immediately or who he believes don't have fat to go to become starters. Good football players as opposed to good athletes. That inasmuch as anything puts Webb and his champion, Mike Tice, on notice that if he can't pick up his play he sits.

Emery also came straight out and said in his interview that he won't tip his hand so what Tice says may be total misdirection or it maybe 180 degrees opposite how Emery sees it. Right now I wouldn't count anything out.

I like the idea of drafting Mike Adams in the first round, and frankly, I even like the idea of trading up for another player, whether it be a WR (Jeffrey my preference or Sanu) or a DE (Mercilus). This is definitely one of your better mocks, Windy. I do have one question, though: how would you feel doing a mock draft in which the Bears theoretically traded itself into the top ten draft picks?

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

Valid, but most trade up speculation has been about getting into around that spot; and I see no need for it, We really need about 2-3 players out of the 1st four we have, if not all 4. I sure to hell wouldn't trade next year's 1st or 2nd. This team has a severe lack of depth, and that has to be corrected through the draft. I'd rather stand pat and take bpa. While OT is definately a huge need, I'm not sure I would put it head and shoulders over the need of a combo of DE + DB or DE + WR.

If Emery's Patriot connections have anything to do with his modus operandi, we may be seeing a lot of trades both up and down to build depth and quality in our draft picks. Belicheck does that, and I fully expect to see something wild happen on draft day.

I would only trade up for Blackmon or a "lock" at LT, but given what we'd have to give up for it shows it's not worth it...

Originally Posted by soulman

Despite what Tice said the decision on whether or not we draft a LT is not his alone. Outside of WR to me the two biggest needs are another pass rusher and a LT. If Upshaw seems unfit for playing as a conventional DE from a 3 point stance then that leaves Coples and Ingram as the only two DE's with solid first round grades and Coples probably won't get past the 10th pick so that leaves Ingram.

I think there's a good chance that Adams will still be on the board at #19 because of Kalil and Reiff ranking ahead of him and possibly even Martin. Much depends on how these guys look at the Combine. So the choice may come down to Adams vs Ingram at #19. If Emery sees a DE we can get in the 2nd or 3rd and we've signed a FA DE then Adams may well represent the BPA at that point so that's how Emery rolls.

There is a need to fill, upgrade or add youth at so many spots there's no reason to reach for a player based on position and I don't think Emery will do that. He'll be looking either for guys who can contribute immediately or who he believes don't have fat to go to become starters. Good football players as opposed to good athletes. That inasmuch as anything puts Webb and his champion, Mike Tice, on notice that if he can't pick up his play he sits.

Emery also came straight out and said in his interview that he won't tip his hand so what Tice says may be total misdirection or it maybe 180 degrees opposite how Emery sees it. Right now I wouldn't count anything out.

+1

Spot on with this Soul. I don't we should take Tice comments about Webb as gospel or even anything close to it. How many times have we seen a smoke screen about this player or that player etc. The Bears are masters at misdirection to keep other teams from getting players that the Bears want weather it be in FA or the draft. No need to jump to conclusions here.