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    New WR, Could It Be Moss? Well He Does Have a History With Tice..........

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    The Bears as a microcosm of Moss' problem

    February, 13, 2012 Feb 13
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    By Kevin Seifert




    Some necessary ingredients must be in place for a team even to consider signing receiver Randy Moss in 2012. It needs a strong and established coaching staff. A rifle-armed quarterback, with experience in handling high-maintenance receivers, is a must. And it needs a personal advocate who knows Moss, understands him and can serve as an internal facilitator/translator.



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    There is an NFC North team that fits every aspect of that description, and the minimal chance of a deal highlights how difficult it will be for Moss to get a job for 2012, as he said Monday he wants to do. And that assumes Moss, now 35, can still play at a reasonably high level.

    Lovie Smith is one of the NFL's longest-tenured coaches and his locker rooms rarely, if ever, display the type of discord Moss has caused in his various stops. Quarterback Jay Cutler throws one of the NFL's best deep balls, and his long-standing friendship with receiver Brandon Marshall is an example of his social flexibility.

    And offensive coordinator Mike Tice was Moss' coach for three seasons when both were with the Minnesota Vikings. Tice lived through the best and worst Moss has to offer, coaxing 217 receptions and 24 touchdowns in their first two seasons together while also dealing with Moss' arrest for nudging a traffic officer with his car and his decision to leave the field early in the 2004 regular-season finale, among other episodes.

    So in the Bears, you have a team with an established head coach, a quarterback who could handle Moss on the field and off, a longtime connection in Tice and a clear need for a downfield receiver. So are the Bears a front-runner for Moss' services?

    Here's what I know: The same reasons that make Chicago a logical landing point also suggest the Bears won't pursue him.

    One of the reasons Smith's locker room has been peaceful is the type of people he has brought into it. You don't have to worry about Brian Urlacher loafing on a play or Olin Kreutz insulting his teammates or Lance Briggs publicly questioning coaching decisions.

    Cutler's connection with Marshall is based in part on the receiver's well-known work ethic. Marshall has demonstrated some unstable personality traits, but his effort on the field has never been questioned. A quarterback can count on Marshall's doing his best.

    And it's only fair to point out that Tice shed no public tears when the Vikings traded Moss to the Oakland Raiders in April 2005. Too much of Tice's tenure had been devoted to Moss and his ancillary issues.

    In short, the Bears are in a good position to understand what Moss is -- and what he probably isn't. For lack of a better term, Moss has been a pathological contrarian for his entire NFL career.
    He has undermined every coach he's played for, and to think otherwise now would be to suggest he has made a 180-degree personality change. (Yes, pathological is a very good description for a guy who sabotaged his career with every team he played for just like my ex-girlfriend sabotages relationships. She was pathological too)

    And as Cutler and anyone else associated with the Bears could attest by watching film, Moss took an obvious step back on the field in 2010 and was a shell of his former self. Defenses still devoted extra attention to him, but that attribute wasn't enough for three different teams to give up on him that season.

    In most situations, the Moss-Bears connection would make a whole lot of sense. But this is an entirely unique scenario. Moss is one of a kind. And if it doesn't make sense for the Bears, who would it make sense for?



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    I'm glad Seifert comes to the same conclusion most of us would. Just say NO to drugs and Randy Moss.



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    no thanks to Moss

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    this is one time in which i would NOT take the attitude with the talent. If he lost the attitude (which I doubt), I'd want him fighting for the number 3 spot.


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    No bad attitute+old= bad wr on all counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    No bad attitute+old= bad wr on all counts.
    Which also describes T.O. as well.
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    Cris Carter had this to say about Moss. As far as I'm concerned if the guy can come, simply STFU and produce I wouldn't have any problem with him so long as Tice is running the offense. He gets one year deal, no bonus and no guarantees. Show up every week and collect you paycheck. Turn into a problem and you lose that paycheck and are back on the outside looking in. Why not ask T.O. how much he's enjoying his forced retirement.

    I guess the way I see it is after a year of RWill I'm ready for anyone who is willing to go out there and play and not expect a fortune to do it. If Moss still has the wheels with Cutler's arm those two could make some teams nervous. Carter hit the nail on the head as did jokr the other day when they both talked about Moss needing incentive. I'm not exactly sure how that works in his case but I'm willing to bet Tice does so to me it's his call.

    Former teammate says Moss fits in with Patriots, Bears







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    • Published: Feb. 15, 2012 at 06:14 p.m.
    • Updated: Feb. 15, 2012 at 07:26 p.m.
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    It turns out Cris Carter has all sorts of strong opinions on Randy Moss. Among them are where Moss, Carter's teammate for four seasons in Minnesota, could earn paychecks next season now that he's announced his intention to return to the NFL.



    Not all of Carter's opinions on Moss are complimentary. But Carter does think Moss can still play, at least when he has incentive to do so. A lot has to happen before team's will ask Moss to put his signature to paper, but his agent, Joel Segal, told NFL.com's Steve Wyche teams did show early interest in gathering preliminary information.
    Carter, meanwhile, has two possible destinations in mind.


    "I believe the best place for him is New England," Carter told WQAM in Miami, via Sportsradiointerviews.com. "Now I believe a team that might want to look at him is Chicago with Jay Cutler and Mike Tice because him and Mike Tice get along great. He has respect for Tice. Jay Cutler and Moss? I think they could work that out."


    The Patriots are a popular media choice as a destination for Moss, although New England jumped at the chance to acquire a third-round pick from the Vikings after four weeks of the 2010 season. The Patriots got a record-breaking 2007 season out of Moss and two more productive campaigns before cutting ties after the wide receiver began voicing unhappiness about his contract leading up to the 2010 season.


    The Bears have an ongoing need for capable receivers and a quarterback with a very big arm. And Tice, the team's new offensive coordinator, is not only a figure Moss reportedly respects, but the guy who derived the infamous "Randy Ratio" to appease the mercurial receiver with a certain amount of looks.


    As for other destinations, the Dallas Cowboys have already opted out of the Moss sweepstakes. Rams head coach Jeff Fisher spoke highly of Moss, but was non-committal on the idea of him as a fit in St. Louis



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    Randy Moss is done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
    Randy Moss is done.

    Who gave YOU permission to take photos in my backyard??? Got 'er up for sale if your interested!



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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
    Randy Moss is done.

    This would have been JA's first round draft pick for the LT spot.
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