Thread: Is the Bears OL a priority?

We need to build the most fundamental aspect for the long term as Soul has said. For short-term impact FA will solve many of the wr woes. Getting Konz won't pay out right away perhaps but you build a great foundation for years to come. I don't ever want to go back to these nightmarish o-lines from lack of everything from talent, coaching, and GM.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

We need to build the most fundamental aspect for the long term as Soul has said. For short-term impact FA will solve many of the wr woes. Getting Konz won't pay out right away perhaps but you build a great foundation for years to come. I don't ever want to go back to these nightmarish o-lines from lack of everything from talent, coaching, and GM.

I would have to disagree and say out of the names being thrown around Konz would be the most likely to step in and play well. Yes the ceilings are higher for guys like flloyd and other names being tossed out there but this would most likely be the safest pick as far as getting a guy who isn't much of a threat to bust

I'm not saying I will disagree if someone else is taken at 19 but hisdraft stock is climbing

Originally Posted by Grizzblue

I would have to disagree and say out of the names being thrown around Konz would be the most likely to step in and play well. Yes the ceilings are higher for guys like flloyd and other names being tossed out there but this would most likely be the safest pick as far as getting a guy who isn't much of a threat to bust

I'm not saying I will disagree if someone else is taken at 19 but hisdraft stock is climbing

Right now, for the sake of the Chicago Bears winning a championship right here, right now, the best policy would be to draft a LT in the first round. I'm going along with soulman and WindyCity. This offensive line has been putrid for six years, ever since the Super Bowl year, and we have to correct it now if we want to get the most out of our offense. In my estimation, and this goes against what a lot of the guys on this forum have been saying, I think LT is the single most important deficiency needing to be addressed this offseason, even over our horrible WRs. Unless Mike Tice gets totally overruled by Emery and we wind up drafting offensive line in the first round, I just have this horrible feeling that we are going to go through yet another season of poor line play and lackluster offensive performances.

However, there was a string of about five games this season where the offensive line played as well as any line in the league. This occurred when Martz allowed for Tice to install a TE to help chip block for Webb, and the blocking for those five games was, for the most part, excellent. Then, when Cutler went down, everything changed. Webb got sloppy, Chris Williams had already been injured with the broken wrist the prior week and was put on IR, and Lance Louis, from what the offensive line gurus here in the forum said, started struggling with his inside blocks. Now, I have to question something right here. Was it so much the offensive line that improved during the five game winning streak that allowed the Bears to win those games, or was it the fact that Jay Cutler is so damn good at elluding would-be tacklers? The second game Cutler was out was against Kansas City, and we absorbed six sacks in that game, with about four or five occurring within two offensive series' in the fourth quarter. Caleb Hanie looked like a deer in the headlights, and he was clumsy in the pocket to say the least. Then you have the Denver game where the Donkeys sacked us another five or six times. Hanie, again, looked like a deer in the headlights. It seems to me that Cutler made the line look good. Call him "The Artful Dodger" if you will.

We cannot let this happen again next season. We have the worst offensive line in the entire NFL and yet still manage to win more than we lose most of the time, but eventually, lady luck is going to run out, and something is going to happen to our franchise quarterback. We are wasting his talents as much by avoiding addressing the offensive line as we are not taking care of business with the wide receivers...only probably more so. Without a good line, Cutler is never going to have time to stand pat and launch a pass down field - that's why Martz's offense didn't succeed with this team. I'm not defending Mike Martz because he was the buffoon who refused to adapt his coaching philosophy to the personnel we had before it was too late. But I will say that we need to make our coaches' lives a little easier by getting them the players they need to succeed.

Originally Posted by Dagan81

Right now, for the sake of the Chicago Bears winning a championship right here, right now, the best policy would be to draft a LT in the first round. I'm going along with soulman and WindyCity. This offensive line has been putrid for six years, ever since the Super Bowl year, and we have to correct it now if we want to get the most out of our offense. In my estimation, and this goes against what a lot of the guys on this forum have been saying, I think LT is the single most important deficiency needing to be addressed this offseason, even over our horrible WRs. Unless Mike Tice gets totally overruled by Emery and we wind up drafting offensive line in the first round, I just have this horrible feeling that we are going to go through yet another season of poor line play and lackluster offensive performances.

However, there was a string of about five games this season where the offensive line played as well as any line in the league. This occurred when Martz allowed for Tice to install a TE to help chip block for Webb, and the blocking for those five games was, for the most part, excellent. Then, when Cutler went down, everything changed. Webb got sloppy, Chris Williams had already been injured with the broken wrist the prior week and was put on IR, and Lance Louis, from what the offensive line gurus here in the forum said, started struggling with his inside blocks. Now, I have to question something right here. Was it so much the offensive line that improved during the five game winning streak that allowed the Bears to win those games, or was it the fact that Jay Cutler is so damn good at elluding would-be tacklers? The second game Cutler was out was against Kansas City, and we absorbed six sacks in that game, with about four or five occurring within two offensive series' in the fourth quarter. Caleb Hanie looked like a deer in the headlights, and he was clumsy in the pocket to say the least. Then you have the Denver game where the Donkeys sacked us another five or six times. Hanie, again, looked like a deer in the headlights. It seems to me that Cutler made the line look good. Call him "The Artful Dodger" if you will.

We cannot let this happen again next season. We have the worst offensive line in the entire NFL and yet still manage to win more than we lose most of the time, but eventually, lady luck is going to run out, and something is going to happen to our franchise quarterback. We are wasting his talents as much by avoiding addressing the offensive line as we are not taking care of business with the wide receivers...only probably more so. Without a good line, Cutler is never going to have time to stand pat and launch a pass down field - that's why Martz's offense didn't succeed with this team. I'm not defending Mike Martz because he was the buffoon who refused to adapt his coaching philosophy to the personnel we had before it was too late. But I will say that we need to make our coaches' lives a little easier by getting them the players they need to succeed.

Again Dagan nice analysis.

The OL has been bad and was slightly better last year but it needs to be upgraded.

The problem is that Angelo left this team weak and thin at a number of positions and we need to inject youth and talent into a ton of areas. I think we focus on WR, OL and DE this offseason, because as you mentioned about the OL all have a huge impact.

Bears had NFL's worst O-line?

Pro Football Focus, the highly respected NFL stats compilers and interpreters, present an interesting head-shaker regarding the Bears, declaring their offensive line to be the worst in the NFL for 2011. That’s based on pass blocking, run blocking and penalties.

That’s also worth a chuckle. A couple, actually.

For one thing, the second-worst line by the standards belonged to the New York Giants. The 2011 Lombardi Trophy also belongs to the New York Giants. The third-worst was that of the Denver Broncos, last seen disappearing under a New England tsunami but not before taking out the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs.

Anyway, what makes this a little more head-scratching is that the Bears were the well-known 7-3 before losing their starting quarterback, were about in the middle of the pack on sacks per pass attempt at that time and were on their way to finishing in the top 10 for rushing yards per game despite missing their franchise tailback for virtually the last five games.
Anyway, what makes this a little more head-scratching is that the Bears were the well-known 7-3 before losing their starting quarterback, were about in the middle of the pack on sacks per pass attempt at that time and were on their way to finishing in the top 10 for rushing yards per game despite missing their franchise tailback for virtually the last five games
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http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/bears-talk/post/Bears-had-NFLs-worst-O-line?blockID=655924&feedID=10330

I'm not saying Webb us a great player but there is no way he is the most pressing need, Carimi is going to be at that LT spot sooner rather than later and Garza I'd old and also a gaurd, with Spencer having a stupid high contract he will most likely be gone next year

The NFC north as I've said before has a great amount of the leagues best nose guards and we can have Jake Long at left tackle and if Suh pitches a tent in our backfeild it would be obsolete

Originally Posted by Grizzblue

I'm not saying Webb us a great player but there is no way he is the most pressing need, Carimi is going to be at that LT spot sooner rather than later and Garza I'd old and also a gaurd, with Spencer having a stupid high contract he will most likely be gone next year

The NFC north as I've said before has a great amount of the leagues best nose guards and we can have Jake Long at left tackle and if Suh pitches a tent in our backfeild it would be obsolete

question becomes where do we get our Jake Long from? haha

Id iek for the bears to at least walk away with a mid round picked Center at the very least

Originally Posted by VJ18

question becomes where do we get our Jake Long from? haha

Id iek for the bears to at least walk away with a mid round picked Center at the very least

Seriously would be nice hah

But yeah a center pickup somewhere would be nice im not limited to wanting Konz drafted 1st round, his draft estimation is late first early second putting the Bears in a bad spot to get him unless they moved or he fell significantly

Whoever they draft I feel like it needs to be someone who can come in and play right away or at least compete for a starting job

Webb was the worst OT in the league two years in a row. I would say replacing him is urgent but again just wont be easy