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    What I find interesting is one of top OT in the draft Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa isn't listed. In most drafts he is picked in the top five to top ten. If he were to drop to number 19 it would be a great pick up for the Bears.
    You're up early too I see. The reason for it JJ is that NFP is just ranking these guys subjectively by how they see them succeeding in the NFL not in their draft order. That's how NFP approaches all or their rankings whereas several other sites are ranking players on where there most likely to be drafted. Every mock draft I see has him going anywhere from around #8 to #12. I don't think we even get close enough to get a whiff of him.

    Edit: Just looked at NFP's Mock Draft and they have him going to Miami at #9. Two others I've posted also have him going to Miami at #9 and one at #3 to the Vikes rather than Kalil.

    I'm thinking that having Glenn and DeCastro in the top 15 just edges him out by a spot or two. I mean how often do you see two OG's ranked in the top 15 players?
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    This Part II in the Ranking of Prospects by Wes Bunting of NFP Players 16-30


    Pre Combine: Prospect Rankings Part II

    Who cracked the second part of our top 30-prospect list? Wes Bunting

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    Ranking the prospects from 16- 30…
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    16. OT Mike Adams: Ohio State (6-8, 320)
    He's a talented kid with a big frame, long arms and natural movement skills. He can bend and if he can put it all together and continue to improve his footwork he could certainly mature into a starting caliber left tackle in the NFL.
    ICONAdams has the ideal physical and athletic make-up to play on either the right or left side in the NFL.


    17. CB Janoris Jenkins: North Alabama (5-10, 182)
    If he can put it all together off the field, he's got the ability to develop into a very good cover man in the NFL and despite his size he's going to be a really tough guy to separate from in just about any scheme he plays in.


    18. ILB Luke Kuechly: Boston College (6-3, 237)
    He's not the biggest, strongest or fastest of athletes. But he's instinctive, plays faster than he times, finds the football in all areas of the game and can really tackle. He's going to be a bit limited in coverage, but he's instinctive enough to play on third down in zone and should end up being one of the NFL's top tackling linebackers for years to come.


    19. OLB Melvin Ingram: South Carolina (6-2, 276)
    He is an impressive pass rusher who can get after the QB in a number of ways. Ingram is raw with his technique and can get better, but his suddenness, length and natural feel for the game makes me think he's one of the draft best senior pass rushers.


    20. SS Mark Barron: Alabama (6-2, 218)
    Has the makings of a heck of a special teams player who can also attack downhill vs. the run game, play inside the box and drive on the football in front of him in the pass game. Isn't going to be a major threat turning and tracking the football, but his improved instincts makes me think he can start in the league early on.


    21. TE Coby Fleener: Stanford (6-6, 244)
    An impressive pass catcher who can win both down the field and underneath vs. man coverage. Has the frame and flexibility to develop into a solid blocker as well and looks like a future starting caliber NFL TE.


    22. WR Michael Floyd: Notre Dame (6-3, 224)
    Didn't seem quite as dynamic as a receiver when he bulked up in 2010. However, has looked sudden, explosive and showcased the ability to separate quickly and create after the catch as a senior. Is one of the draft's top receiving prospects.


    23. OC Peter Konz: Wisconsin (6-5, 315)
    For a taller center showcases impressive flexibility, as he typically gains leverage on contact and uses his length to gain proper hand placement. Has some limitations because of his height and will allow defenders to get under him at times. However, for the most part is able to quickly re-set his hands, sink his hips and keep the inside of the pocket clean in pass protection. Showcases an good snap through the hips in the run game, is routinely able to create a push inside and drive opposing nose tackles away from the play and/or seal. Looks like a "plus" run blocker in the NFL in more of an angle scheme.


    24. ILB Dont'a Hightower: Alabama (6-4, 260)
    Looks like a potential impact caliber 34-inside linebacker who has the skill set to win inside vs. the run and create pressure on third down as a savvy rush guy as well.
    ICONTannehill has what it takes to be a franchise signal caller.


    25. DT Brandon Thompson: Clemson (6-2, 310)
    A guy who should be able to come in and be a lineman who can win inside vs. the run game. Looks a bit limited as a pass rusher, but will be able to push the pocket and threaten gaps off the ball. A starting caliber 43 nose inside.


    26. OLB Courtney Upshaw: Alabama (6-2, 265)
    I like him as a 34 outside backer who can play on the strong side, take on linemen at the point and also rush the passer. He's at his best attacking downhill, using his strong hands to disengage and always is around the football. Looks like a year one starter to me at the next level with scheme versatility.


    27. QB Ryan Tannehill: Texas A&M (6-4, 222)
    With such limited experience at the quarterback position it's not a case of where this guy is right now, but where he can be in 2/3 years. I love the talent and the overall production from a guy who doesn't have much experience playing from under center as he plays way beyond his years. A potential franchise quarterback in my mind.


    28. OT Riley Reiff: Iowa (6-6, 300)
    Showcases the ability to bend with good foot quickness and range in pass protection. Also displays an explosive element to his game as a run blocker. Needs to be more consistent with his footwork and would like to see him develop a bit more as a puncher in order to keep himself clean. Nevertheless, has the athleticism, flexibility and pedigree to mature into a solid starting left tackle in the NFL.


    29. CB Brandon Boykin: Georgia (5-10, 183)
    Plays much bigger/strong than his frame would indicate. Has the ability to press on the edge, but might be better suited to play as a slot guy in the NFL. Either way can play a role on a defense in either a man or zone scheme.


    30. Amini Silatolu: Midwestern State (6-3, 324)
    He has some technique flaws that needs to be fixed and will need to kick inside at the next level. However, he's a wide-bodied athlete with a powerful/explosive frame, good foot quickness and can really pull from the backside. Might need some time, but is one of the top guards in the class with as much upside as any.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-30 View Post
    What I find interesting is one of top OT in the draft Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa isn't listed. In most drafts he is picked in the top five to top ten. If he were to drop to number 19 it would be a great pick up for the Bears.
    Reiff ranked at #28 and Adams at #16. I don't agree with that and I think Reiff will go long before Adams.
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    NFL Combine Sleepers

    Potential Combine risers no one is talking aboutWes Bunting

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    A look at five “under the radar” type prospects who could be capable of making a move up draft boards this coming week at the NFL Combine…
    ICONJohnson is versatile enough to drop into coverage.
    DE Cam Johnson: Virginia (6-4, 270)
    A solid college defensive end who has never been much of a sack artist but there are definitely some tools there. Showcases natural fluidity in his drop and in coverage and has the ability to mature into a more sudden pass rusher. Will get looks in both a 34 and 43 front and could be the Jabaal Sheard of the 2012 class.


    SS Winston Guy Jr.: Kentucky (6-1, 216)
    Still has some upside at the position, as he can tackle, displays solid range in space and above-average instincts in all areas of the game. Should be a heck of a special teams player early on and looks like a guy who can fight for playing time after a year or two of development.


    OG Amini Silatolu: Midwestern State (6-3, 324)
    He has some technique flaws that need to be fixed and will need to kick inside to guard at the next level. However, he's a wide-bodied athlete with a powerful/explosive frame, good foot quickness and can really pull from the backside. Might need some time, but is one of the top guards in the class with as much upside as any.


    WR Kashif Moore: Connecticut (5-10, 175)
    An undersized wide out with "plus" speed. Isn't real shifty in tight areas, is developing as a route runner and will struggle to get off press. Nevertheless, he’s got the top end seed to be a homerun threat every time he touches the football and could post one of the fastest times at the NFL Combine next week.


    DE Scott Solomon: Rice (6-3, 270)
    A better overall prospect in my mind than former Rice DL Cheta Ozougwu, who ended up being selected in the 7th round last year. He's a big kid who has some pass rush ability and the size to play the run. At worst looks like a guy who can come into camp and work his way into an NFL rotation.


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