Thread: Chi66 Offseason

I do not think we can afford the free agents as Mario is probably going to command at least 15 million in his first season and Meachem is a 4-6 million guy.

To be honest I don't know to much about cap structure and I know it'd be pushing it with Mario, just an option worth mapping out. I personally would really like Floyd at 19 if he's there and like I said I had a mock similar to yours, hence the change to Mario in FA instead.*

You can ask the other guys about my undying love of Cordy Glenn.

*Heh, well maybe if Cliff can work some magic we could do this mock. I was thinking Wayne/Royal for FA pick-ups, what do you think they're looking for contract wise?

*

I actually like the picks although the WR core is still pretty thing and we would need an impact from McNutt in year 1.

*If it could work, I'd be pretty happy with this FA. My biggest concern is the lack of WR. I had a second round Sanu, third round McNutt, third round Hayward mock but changed it last second in favor of the TE and a corner with more upside.

*Overall though I think we need to get Cutler a reliable #1 like Vincent Jackson but the opportunity to add someone like Mario Williams to the D is something that must be considered, I'm anxious as hell to see how FA plays out.

Originally Posted by MPBears68

Chi,

Excellent and hard to disagree there. I like your FA and your top 3 picks.

Yes, we can afford MW + Meacham in FA if structured properly and we do not need to keep Spencer if we draft Glenn, DeCastro, or Konz in round 1. It would require cuts like that but it's doable.

Very true, didn't even consider that. Probably would look more like:

LT: Webb
LG: C. Williams, E. Williams
C: Garza, Blake
RG: Glenn
RT: Carimi, Louis

*I really love the idea of adding Williams, I just can't picture a team dreaming up much to stop us with those two coming off the edge. Peppers is immediately going to have less blocking on him which means he'll be more successful and Mario is gonna see less than normal due to Peppers. Any mishaps and those two will take advantage and if you devote all the blocking to them you know our DT's have the ability to get to the QB. It would be a nightmare for QB's, OC's, and all lineman on the Bears schedule.

Also with the addition of Glenn I love the thought of running off our right side with Williams pulling. CW was fantastic at pulling last year and with Carimi, Glenn, and Williams plowing the way you know Forte is gonna see daylight.*

Originally Posted by WindyCity

I do not think we can afford the free agents as Mario is probably going to command at least 15 million in his first season and Meachem is a 4-6 million guy.

You can ask the other guys about my undying love of Cordy Glenn.

I actually like the picks although the WR core is still pretty thing and we would need an impact from McNutt in year 1.

That would be true if his compensation was 100% salary but that isn't the way you do it. Just as an example let's say we sign him for $90 mil over 6 years with half of that in the form of bonus money. Some signing bonus some future roster bonus. You can also figure in the fact that this is the lowest cap value Pep has during his entire contract. It's $11.3 mil.

OK, how do you structure to end up with a 2012 cap cost of half that $15 mil? Give him a signing bonus of $30 mil and a 2012 salary if $2.5 mil. The signing bonus is amortized over the life of the contract so $30 mil / 6 yrs = $5 mil per year right? Now add in his salary of $2.5 mil and his cap value for the year is $7.5 mil and nowhere near $15 mil. You have to structure deals in the most cap friendly way possible. There was no cap in 2010 which is why the Bears front loaded his deal.

MWill walks away with $32.5 mil in cash for 2012 but his cap value is only $7.5 mil. I'm not saying this is ideal or that it isn't but it sure is one way of doing it while still leaving plenty of room for additional free agents plus some of our own. And the 2012 cap value of two All Pro DE's is less than $20 mil for both!

couldn't afford Meachem, Forte and Williams + depth guys and a TE.

If we sign Williams and Grubb (spell), we can draft a WR in the 1st, 2nd and a CB in the 3rd. 1st round WR = starter and the 2nd round is a longterm project. Add those to Bennett, Hester and sign a cheaper known guy like Wayne or even Moss.

Originally Posted by soulman

That would be true if his compensation was 100% salary but that isn't the way you do it. Just as an example let's say we sign him for $90 mil over 6 years with half of that in the form of bonus money. Some signing bonus some future roster bonus. You can also figure in the fact that this is the lowest cap value Pep has during his entire contract. It's $11.3 mil.

OK, how do you structure to end up with a 2012 cap cost of half that $15 mil? Give him a signing bonus of $30 mil and a 2012 salary if $2.5 mil. The signing bonus is amortized over the life of the contract so $30 mil / 6 yrs = $5 mil per year right? Now add in his salary of $2.5 mil and his cap value for the year is $7.5 mil and nowhere near $15 mil. You have to structure deals in the most cap friendly way possible. There was no cap in 2010 which is why the Bears front loaded his deal.

MWill walks away with $32.5 mil in cash for 2012 but his cap value is only $7.5 mil. I'm not saying this is ideal or that it isn't but it sure is one way of doing it while still leaving plenty of room for additional free agents plus some of our own. And the 2012 cap value of two All Pro DE's is less than $20 mil for both!

It also leave us in cap trouble as we are not trying to fit 82.5 million of cap hits into 5 years.

So yes Mario gets his money, but we still need to find a way to get all that money under the cap. Most teams outside of the Redskins want to backload a deal so severly. And most players do not want a backloaded contract because all of their salary is in years when they are at risk to get cut.

If I am Mario I will sign with someone who gives me 30 million guaranteed plus a base salary of 10 million that way I get 40 million instead of 32.5.

I agree if we sign Mario Williams we are going to have to make some cuts like Spencer or even Briggs.

Lets play a game of who would you be willing to lose to make over the team this season and add Mario Williams.

Chris Spencer [Draft a Replacement]

Izzy Idonije [Not Re-signed]

Lance Briggs [Traded]

Devin Hester [Traded]