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The Bears Free Agents; Who Stays, Who Goes?....................
This should prompt some interesting discussions:
Chicago Bears Report
Bears free agents: Who stays, who goes?
March, 8, 2012 Mar 8
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By Jeff Dickerson and Michael C. Wright
Dennis Wierzbicki/US PresswireRoy Williams and his representatives haven't yet heard from the Bears about re-signing, according to sources.
The natural inclination is to look outside the current roster with the start of free agency on Tuesday, but certainly the Chicago Bears need to explore bringing back some of their own.
Obviously, the Bears won’t re-sign all 12 of their free agents (not counting Matt Forte, who received the franchise designation), but signs point to the club retaining a good portion of them. The Bears met with representatives for several of their current free agents at the NFL combine in February, but predictably kept their plans for the future close to the vest as the club weighs options outside in free agency against its own players.
Here, we attempt to unravel some of the mystery by predicting which free agents the team plans to bring back, and those expected to put on new uniforms in 2012:
LIKELY STAYING
Craig Steltz, S, unrestricted: Even though three safeties were recently given the franchise tag by their respective teams (Dashon Goldson, Michael Griffin, Tyvon Branch), there is still expected to be a fairly deep safety class when free agency begins Tuesday. Steltz saw his stock rise last year when he started a career-best five games, finishing with 48 tackles, three tackles for lost yardage, two forced fumbles and a sack. A 2008 fourth-round pick, Steltz always has been an excellent special teams player. He ranked fourth last season with 12 special teams stops, and is considered by many to be one of the best tacklers on the team. It's unclear if the Bears would let Steltz compete for a starting job next year if he comes back -- they should -- but one thing is clear: The Bears are a better team in 2012 with Steltz on the roster than without.
Justin Edmonds/Getty ImagesJosh McCown likely will be back with the Bears in 2012.
Josh McCown, QB, unrestricted: For coming in off the street in late November, McCown performed surprisingly well when given the chance to start the last two regular season games. For those efforts, the Bears should reward the veteran with a new one-year deal and make him -- at the very least -- their No. 3 quarterback. Of course, entering his 10th year in the NFL, McCown would command a respectable veteran minimum salary. Given the issues that have plagued the Bears at backup quarterback the last two seasons, retaining McCown and adding another experienced option behind Jay Cutler, sounds like a good idea. It’s believed the Bears plan to bring back McCown as the No. 3, with a chance to win the No. 2 spot in training camp.
Kahlil Bell, RB, restricted: The Bears will no doubt tender Bell with the intent of bringing him back as either the No. 2 or No. 3 running back on the depth chart. Bell coughed up the ball a few times last year, which he acknowledges can’t happen in the future. But he did run for a career-high 121 yards at Green Bay on Christmas night. Plus, the Bears backfield is a tad unsettled right now with Forte dealing with the franchise tag and Marion Barber appearing to be a prime candidate to be released because of his $2.25 million cap charge in 2012. That makes retaining Bell for another season all the more important -- and financially prudent -- for a team expected to place more of an emphasis on the run under new offensive coordinator Mike Tice.
Kellen Davis, TE, unrestricted: Lovie Smith's motives for heaping praise on Davis the last few months are simple: There probably won't be a better option available in free agency. With the exception of perhaps Seattle's John Carlson, this isn't considered a very good year to draft or sign a tight end. Even if the Bears are somehow able to upgrade with a better No. 1, Davis should still be brought back to be the No. 2, with established blocker Matt Spaeth rounding out the group. The Bears need Davis in some capacity, which is probably why Smith went overboard when he compared Davis to the great tight ends in the league, which he is not. But Davis is a terrific athlete who can run block, catch the ball and rarely makes mental mistakes. He just doesn't have a great feel for the game. Still, the Bears make it sound as if they want Davis to return, and for good reason.
Amobi Okoye, DT, unrestricted: Because of limited action, Okoye didn't exactly light the world on fire in his first season with the Bears (four sacks), but he certainly made enough plays for the Bears to strongly consider bringing him back. Despite entering his sixth NFL season, Okoye is still a young guy set to turn 25 in June. Continued work with defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli should only further Okoye’s development. Of course, there's no telling what market might develop for Okoye in free agency, or how much the defensive tackle wants to be paid, but he certainly seems like a strong candidate for the Bears to attempt to re-sign. If Okoye walks via free agency, the Bears could always attempt to re-sign the recently released Anthony Adams at a cheaper price.
LIKELY GOING
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AP Photo/Amy SancettaZack Bowman has the size and athleticism but has lacked the production the past two seasons.
Zack Bowman, CB, unrestricted: Bowman could benefit from a fresh start after being unable to permanently win back the starting job he lost to Tim Jennings in early 2010. If nothing else, Bowman -- with 16 career starts -- should be an attractive option in the second wave of free agency for teams looking to improve depth at cornerback. Despite a rough outing at the end of 2011 against Green Bay, a game in which the coaching staff required Bowman to play outside leverage in the red zone, Bowman has an impressive combination of size and athleticism, not to mention a proven track record of being a quality special teamer (10 special-teams tackles and a fumble recovery last year). All it takes is one offseason to catch the eye of a coaching staff. Bowman has turned heads in the past -- six interceptions in 2009 -- so what's to say it can't happen again with a change of scenery?
Caleb Hanie, QB, unrestricted: Hanie will not return to the Bears after starting four games last season in place of the injured Jay Cutler. The next move for the quarterback will be to try and catch on with a team and win a backup job in training camp. With four accrued NFL seasons, Hanie will be more expensive for teams to carry on their roster than say a rookie or second-year player. That could make finding work a little more difficult. But there could be a coach, or general manager who feels Hanie can still be a player in the NFL. If Roy Williams catches a sure touchdown pass versus Kansas City, or if Marion Barber knew the basic rules of football, the Bears probably win two of the games Hanie started, which might have improved his free-agent stock. None of those happened, so now the quarterback must wait and see how the market pans out.
Brandon Meriweather, S, unrestricted: Meriweather never got on track in Chicago after the Bears overpaid ($3.25 million) to land the two-time Pro Bowler and former New England Patriot, and Smith admitted as much last month at the NFL combine. Meriweather started four games over the first five weeks, but became an afterthought by the end of the season, playing in just six more games and being held out the rest despite being healthy. He lived up to his reputation of being an undisciplined freelancer, which makes his initial signing even more curious, since Smith has always refused to tolerate any freelancing or undisciplined play in the secondary.
Chris Massey, LS, unrestricted: The Bears' plan right now is to not bring back Massey, who did a good job filling in for Patrick Mannelly over the final six weeks. Fullback Tyler Clutts can probably handle long-snapping duties in the offseason until Mannelly is fully recovered from his knee injury. But Massey proved to the Bears he can be a reliable option if necessary.
TOSS UP
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AP Photo/Nam Y. HuhWill some team pay Corey Graham starter money?
Corey Graham, CB, unrestricted: There is little question Graham prefers a fresh start. In fact, Graham felt that way last year until the post-lockout market forced him back to the Bears. But is Graham going to find a team that will sign and pay him like a starter or give him the opportunity to fill such a role? Teams, however, will be interested -- there is already one report of Graham drawing interest from the San Diego Chargers. But how do they view Graham? Is he a starter or simply a versatile reserve and outstanding special teams player? We know how the Bears view Graham, however. We also know they really want to keep him and would likely offer up a nice bump in pay. Here's the bottom line: If Graham gets an opportunity to start, then he needs to leave. If he doesn't, he should think long and hard about coming back to the Bears.
Tim Jennings, CB, unrestricted: Free agents are going to find out their true worth in this market. One of those players is Jennings, who is looking for a sizeable raise from the $1.4 million base salary he pocketed in 2011. Jennings and his representatives haven’t heard from the Bears so far this offseason about a possible return, according to sources. Although he is a good player, Jennings isn’t someone the Bears are going to overspend to keep. If Jennings can't get what he wants from another team, perhaps he does return to the Bears, but probably in a backup role, or maybe as a candidate to compete at the nickel position.
Israel Idonije, DE, unrestricted: This might come down to money. Idonije earned base salaries the past two seasons of $2.4 million, and carried a cap charge in 2011 of $2.833 million. How much more is Idonije looking for in 2012? What are the Bears willing to pay? How much interest is there for the 31-year-old once free agency begins? Even if the Bears try and find a new starting defensive end to complement Julius Peppers, we can certainly argue the Bears are better off keeping Idonije in the rotation over Corey Wootton, who has yet to make much of a mark after two years in the NFL, largely because of injuries. Not only has Idonije proved himself to be a much more effective pass rusher than Wootton, he’s versatile and can drop inside to play tackle if necessary. But here is where draft status and the economics of the game play a factor. Wootton is scheduled to earn a base salary of $490,000 in 2012. In a perfect world, the Bears upgrade at defensive end while keeping Idonije in the rotation, maybe as the No. 3 pass rusher. That would leave Wootton and veteran Chauncey Davis, who showed some flashes last year, to battle it out for the last spot. But we all know it's not always a perfect world.
Roy Williams, WR, unrestricted: Former offensive coordinator Mike Martz’s lofty prediction of 80-plus catches for Williams during training camp led to unrealistic expectations for the veteran receiver, who tied for second on the team in receptions (37). Williams played more snaps (616) than any other receiver on the roster and was the second-most targeted (60), dropping seven of the 44 catchable balls thrown his way. Interestingly, Williams was the team’s second-leading receiver from the slot (behind Earl Bennett), where he caught 10 passes for 139 yards and a touchdown with only one drop. So perhaps a spot in the slot is in Williams’ future if he remains with the Bears. According to a source, the team indicated shortly after the season it wanted to bring him back in 2012. But sources also indicated that Williams and his representatives haven’t yet heard from the Bears about re-signing with the team. Given what’s on the roster now and the major back injury to Johnny Knox -- who ranked second on the team with 547 snaps in 2011 -- the Bears don’t have many options at the position. So unless the club plans on making multiple acquisitions at receiver, it makes sense to bring back Williams, who despite the drops, made several catches in 2011 that most of the team’s receivers -- outside of Bennett -- couldn't make.
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I really hope the Bears can keep Graham.
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Well let's see now. Who stays and who goes? Let's start with who get rid of.
Despite Dickerson and Wright's opinion that he's a tossup Roy Williams should not be re-signed. He was given a one shot to prove that he could be an effective NFL #1 WR and he is definitely not that. It's obvious that because of his drops or a simple lack of effort to run his route properly or fight for the ball that we lost one game we should have won and gave up several unnecessary interceptions. I don't want the guy anywhere near the Bears.
I would agree with all of the other releases. Bowman has been given every opportunity to win a starting job and he hasn't. He has some speed and some skills but he's in the wrong system. Bowman does fairly well when used as a cover corner but he struggles in zone coverage and he's never even come close to replicating his 2009 season. Give Bowman's money over to Graham in an effort to offer his an attractive enough package to stay.
Meriweather is just one more reason it was time for JA to move on. Just another in a long list of expensive and colossal free agent mistakes. What bothers me the most is that his reputation as an uncoachable loose cannon preceded him and still we signed him for a ridiculous amount of money bidding against ourselves once again I'm sure. The other thing is that we actually kept him around and paid him rather than Chris Harris. Unbelievable!
I don't think there's any question that we should do what we can to keep Graham including giving him his shot at competing for a position in the defensive backfield. We're not exactly flush with talent and depth and Graham did well enough in relief of DJ last season to have earned at least a "look see" in the defense somewhere. He may become the highest paid ST Gunner in the league but in my mind he's earned it.
Izzy should be re-signed for a couple of years at a nominal cost in the most cap friendly manner possible. If we find our pot of gold in the draft of free agency, or if for some reason Wootton or Davis just explode on the scene we release him and pickup his cap space again later as we did with AA. He's at a point and so are we relative to another DE where little or nothing should be guaranteed but lacking suitable replacement we should keep him.
Tim Jennings truly is a tossup. If he could come up with picks and was about 3" taller and 10lbs heavier he might be a Pro Bowler. I hate to lose him because he's a tenacious little SOB but he is replaceable. To me the only questions would be, with who, for how much, and do we gain enough to justify the switch. If it came down to keeping him or Graham I'd go with Corey Graham all day.
Of the keepers to me Davis and Okoye are key contributors who are both capable of far more than they've shown so far. While they don't rank among the top 30 free agents I think almost any pro personnel guy could see enough promise in both to be willing to sign them if the price was right. They may not be inexpensive signing either since we let them slip into free agency.
TE has certainly become a glamor position all of a sudden and a guy who can block and receive like Davis is likely to attract attention so we should be prepared to match or better what he may be offered elsewhere. Okoye is a 25 year old 3t DT who's just now coming into his own. He was horribly misused in Houston but now that he's dropped weight and playing in the spot where his pass rush skills can standout he's looking good. Pass rushing DT's are popular too and he had four sacks last years playing only partime behind Melton. Between them they had 11 sacks and I can't remember the last time we got that out of our DT's. Okoye is definitely worth keeping if only because if we lose him we have just one UT on the roster and we need two for the rotation. Since AA was released Paea will almost certainly be sharing NT with Toe.
Bell is easy to keep around because he's a RFA but if I were Emery I'd do more than just tender him. I'd explore signing him longer term either now or before he becomes a UFA. He's a gritty little north/south runner who has enough quickness and power to be a short yardage back as well as giving Forte some breathers during the game.
Steltz isn't the best guy at coverage we could ever find but he's a tough competitor with superb instincts and tackling ability. He's a "football player" not an "athlete" and those are guys we need to keep.
So there's my wish list.
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Graham, Bell and Okoye. The rest can be dumped in Lake Michigan.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
Well let's see now. Who stays and who goes? Let's start with who get rid of.
Despite Dickerson and Wright's opinion that he's a tossup Roy Williams should not be re-signed. He was given a one shot to prove that he could be an effective NFL #1 WR and he is definitely not that. It's obvious that because of his drops or a simple lack of effort to run his route properly or fight for the ball that we lost one game we should have won and gave up several unnecessary interceptions. I don't want the guy anywhere near the Bears.
I would agree with all of the other releases. Bowman has been given every opportunity to win a starting job and he hasn't. He has some speed and some skills but he's in the wrong system. Bowman does fairly well when used as a cover corner but he struggles in zone coverage and he's never even come close to replicating his 2009 season. Give Bowman's money over to Graham in an effort to offer his an attractive enough package to stay.
Meriweather is just one more reason it was time for JA to move on. Just another in a long list of expensive and colossal free agent mistakes. What bothers me the most is that his reputation as an uncoachable loose cannon preceded him and still we signed him for a ridiculous amount of money bidding against ourselves once again I'm sure. The other thing is that we actually kept him around and paid him rather than Chris Harris. Unbelievable!
I don't think there's any question that we should do what we can to keep Graham including giving him his shot at competing for a position in the defensive backfield. We're not exactly flush with talent and depth and Graham did well enough in relief of DJ last season to have earned at least a "look see" in the defense somewhere. He may become the highest paid ST Gunner in the league but in my mind he's earned it.
Izzy should be re-signed for a couple of years at a nominal cost in the most cap friendly manner possible. If we find our pot of gold in the draft of free agency, or if for some reason Wootton or Davis just explode on the scene we release him and pickup his cap space again later as we did with AA. He's at a point and so are we relative to another DE where little or nothing should be guaranteed but lacking suitable replacement we should keep him.
Tim Jennings truly is a tossup. If he could come up with picks and was about 3" taller and 10lbs heavier he might be a Pro Bowler. I hate to lose him because he's a tenacious little SOB but he is replaceable. To me the only questions would be, with who, for how much, and do we gain enough to justify the switch. If it came down to keeping him or Graham I'd go with Corey Graham all day.
Of the keepers to me Davis and Okoye are key contributors who are both capable of far more than they've shown so far. While they don't rank among the top 30 free agents I think almost any pro personnel guy could see enough promise in both to be willing to sign them if the price was right. They may not be inexpensive signing either since we let them slip into free agency.
TE has certainly become a glamor position all of a sudden and a guy who can block and receive like Davis is likely to attract attention so we should be prepared to match or better what he may be offered elsewhere. Okoye is a 25 year old 3t DT who's just now coming into his own. He was horribly misused in Houston but now that he's dropped weight and playing in the spot where his pass rush skills can standout he's looking good. Pass rushing DT's are popular too and he had four sacks last years playing only partime behind Melton. Between them they had 11 sacks and I can't remember the last time we got that out of our DT's. Okoye is definitely worth keeping if only because if we lose him we have just one UT on the roster and we need two for the rotation. Since AA was released Paea will almost certainly be sharing NT with Toe.
Bell is easy to keep around because he's a RFA but if I were Emery I'd do more than just tender him. I'd explore signing him longer term either now or before he becomes a UFA. He's a gritty little north/south runner who has enough quickness and power to be a short yardage back as well as giving Forte some breathers during the game.
Steltz isn't the best guy at coverage we could ever find but he's a tough competitor with superb instincts and tackling ability. He's a "football player" not an "athlete" and those are guys we need to keep.
So there's my wish list.
Good take on this soul. I couldn't agree more.
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I've actually got a different take on Williams - and I don't even believe I'm typing this. I have been against Williams from the start and only consider him average. However, we have a stable of average WR's. He is not a #1 - there is no doubt about that. However, I'm still open to keeping him depending on who else we get and how much he costs. He's not a bad guy to have out there if he is cheap and the reason I say that is because there is NO WAY we are going to revamp the whole WR corps in onw year. Mario Williams is out there and if we go after him, we may not even get a real #1 WR.
The point is, even if we get a #1, other than Bennett, we really don;t have anyone else better than Williams - even as shakey as he is. So I'm ok with keeping him until we get a total redo on the WR corps.
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Originally Posted by
bearsinhouston
I've actually got a different take on Williams - and I don't even believe I'm typing this.
I can't believe you typed that either. lol I have to figure the Bears will pick up at least two new receivers this offseason. Hopefully a vet FA (whether a #1 or not) and a draft pick. Give me those two new guys plus Bennet as your top three, with Sanz, Hester and Knox to round it off and I'm happy. Drop RWill like a bad habit.
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Originally Posted by
Henry Burris
Graham, Bell and Okoye. The rest can be dumped in Lake Michigan.
We'd be fools not to keep Davis and Steltz and we really can't ditch Izzy unless we have a replacement.
Henry you keep lobbying for us to draft a TE early when even the guru's say this is not a great TE class. Sox and I, and maybe a few others, have already said that at this point in time Davis is better than anyone you could draft. Why not keep a guy who knows you're system, is a dual purpose TE as both a blocker and a receiver and has done a pretty fair job at both with very limited opportunity because of Martz?
Were also a little thin at Safety it's not a wise move to not bring one back who can be as effective a backup as Steltz was last season. He's not a high dollar guy and he will also be better than any mid to late round rookie. The draft isn't exactly rich with Safety talent this year.
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Roy's attitude ba-lows. See ya.
An honest assessment of Hester as a WR leaves me thinking - meh. Too many drops on well thrown balls cuz the guy hears footsteps ( doesn't like playing with his head turned away from defenders ). Plug him in here and there but he should'nt be a starter.
Knox - makes some spectacular grabs and is decent overall but not great. Gets the jitters in traffic like Hester and gets out-muscled leading to int's. Speed is good tho.
Sanz- must be better if he makes the team. A few nice grabs here and there but basically was a non-factor.
This leaves us with 1 legit WR in Bennett. And ONE legit WR on a 'pro' fb team with Cutler as it's QB , is embarrassing. 2 new receivers are needed w/o a doubt.
Most of our FA's are dime a dozen types imo. Sign the better ones .... if better upgrades can't be found in FA or the draft.
What should you call any : Fumble , Hold , Interception , Three and out , or Sack ?
A " F.H.I.T.S " ? or a J'Marcus ?
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I agree - if we pick up two WRs then everything changes -- assuming that they are both better than Williams - which shouldn't be too hard to do.

Originally Posted by
Papa Bear
I can't believe you typed that either. lol I have to figure the Bears will pick up at least two new receivers this offseason. Hopefully a vet FA (whether a #1 or not) and a draft pick. Give me those two new guys plus Bennet as your top three, with Sanz, Hester and Knox to round it off and I'm happy. Drop RWill like a bad habit.