Thread: Mario Williams should be the Bears top priority

can he play WR?

Originally Posted by soulman

Just what is it with you guys who have such a fascination with Carl Nicks? Carl Nicks is not worth $60 mil to the CHICAGO BEARS. Especially not when there are 4 OG's in the top 50 players who would be great picks and cost less over 4 years than Carl Nicks does in one year. Carl Nicks is not needed when you have those options at your disposal if he's even needed at all.

This reasoning that he's great because he's such a tremendous pass blocker he keeps the pocket clean. Well, when you have a 6' tall (maybe) "down in front" semi-midget passer pocket passer that would probably be more important than having a 6'3" passer with the mobility Cutler has. If you've listened at all to what Tice plans to do with the offense, moving pocket, planned roll-outs, chipping with the TE and RB, then we don't need a guy to keep a passing lane clear in front of Cutler like NO does in front of Brees.

With the Bears he's a $60 mil waste that we won't even benefit as much from as signing Pierre Garcon who incidentally has already turned that offer down from his own team. If he was willing to settle for that it would be far more likely that he either would have already or with Luck coming in the door if that's the best he can do he'll re-sign with Indy. Unless we pay significantly more than Indy will he's not coming to Chicago.

Think this out guys. Why sign a FA OG when our major problems with the offense are at LT and WR. It's like rubbing your head right after you stubbed your toe. An OG won't help. Going into FA and the draft we need a WR, DE, LT, CB, and LB not necessarily in that exact order but close. If there a great opportunity to pick up a very good OG who is just hands down the BPA at that spot in the draft you take him because you never give up the opportunity to get a good lineman but that's where you go for OG depth. Not Carl Nicks.

Carl Nicks wouldn't cost $60 million. No guard will get $60 million guaranteed. Its all aboutt he guaranteed money. Few players actually see the total value of these contracts that you hear are signed. Julius Peppers signed a 6yr $91.5 million deal. It guaranteed only $42 million with him making $40.5 million over the first 3 years. This will be his 3rd year and he's now 32yrs old.
I'm sure barring a major drop off in performance he'll back in 2003 but I really doubt he'll be seeing the other $40 million and change after 2013.

Did you notice how both Rodgers and Brady seemed "not quite themselves" and "a little bit off" in those 2 games?

Did you notice how in both games their passes (when they weren't sacked) weren't quite as crisp and a little off-target more often than usual?

I think that's the point of how the NYG defensive line reduced the effectiveness of two very potent offenses and tilted the games their team's way.

Originally Posted by short faced bear

It's a risk but certainly not a gamble. If this team wasn't replete with holes I'd pop for him in a heartbeat. I think having two awesome 3tech at DT would be better. We have two GOOD ones now with Okoye and Melton. I believe the ability to collapse the pocket from within and feed the qb to the DE's is what makes Lovieball really work (imagine 2 Tommie Harris at their prime). Generating hurries and happy feet and stemming the offenses momentum and flow is priority one. Finding the most efficient way is the second.

There are cheaper alternatives and there would be improvement. But if Lovie is feeling like he's up against it I wouldn't be surprised if he went for Mario. Although FA wise he is safe but to have it spread around to different FA would be wiser vs injury. Getting a corner and a safety for an aging defense makes sense for long term.

The million dollar question is this a "all in" year short term window or a multi-year plan. That will decide how this all goes I believe.

In some respects it is BOTH.

It's an "all in" year in that we have a rapidly closing window with key defensive players (Urlacher, Briggs, Peppers) in or reaching the twilight of their careers. Our defense has maybe 2 more years left w/o major replacement help before it declines big time.

It's also a multi-year "rebuilding on the fly" situation in that some long neglected deficits we have (OL and WR in particular) are not going to be fully 'fixed' in just one offseason no matter what we do. Even a WR-heavy offseason (pick whatever big money WR you want AND a #1 draft pick) are not by themselves going to make the WR corps an "A" group at least for several years.

Nice idea but we need that money to make other improvments...his injury history is all but a dealbreaker in my opinion

Originally Posted by GermansbombedPH

I'd like more depth in all areas.

I want a better #2 QB, better LB depth, better CB depth and WR for sure.

I'd like us to sign guys like Grubbs, Meachem and a starting CB like Finnegan/Carr. Spend the money wise. Draft a WR and DE with our 1st and 2nd Round Pick for depth and development. You make starting receivers, you don't sign them.

If were able to really sign Grubbs, Finnegan and Jackson that would be the best FA pick up since Jay Cutler. Probably the best the NFL would have ever seen. just with those 3 if picked up would land us a sure spot in the NFC championship