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    Mario Williams should be the Bears top priority
    by Lester A. Wiltfong

    I know, I know... What about a receiver?!? I've gotta tell ya, the premise took me by surprise too. I've been on the Marques Colston bandwagon all off season, but the more I think about it, the more I find myself leaning towards the best free agent defensive lineman on the market, Mario Williams. And before you assume that it's all about defense winning championships or some misguided notion that they need to go defense because of the great Monsters of The Midway tradition, think again. The Bears need to sign Mario Williams because he will bring the best value for the money.


    The wide receiver market will be inflated because there are so few legit #1 receivers out there, and a number of others that will claim to be. And in this market the fringe receivers will get close to #1 money. Mario Manningham, who has never been the man on the Giants, will get big money. So will Laurent Robinson, Pierre Garcon, and Robert Meachem. Maybe all these guys will step up their game and prove worthy of their deals, maybe all these guys will be like the countless other receivers that were paid like a #1 only to play like a #2 or #3. It's a gamble.

    Steve Johnson and his reported 5-year, $36.25 million deal is a start to the market, but I'd expect most free agents will want more. Once players have teams bidding over their talents, the price goes up. Vincent Jackson will get more than that, as will Colston. Brandon Lloyd might sniff that much, although his sketchy history may hurt him. Mike Wallace is a restricted free agent, but a team better bring the coin if they want him to sign an offer sheet. Then they have to forfeit their 1st round draft pick to the Steelers for his services.

    But back to Mario Williams. He'll command a Julius Peppers like contract, and he's worth it. At just 27 years old, he's in the prime of his career. Just imagine the havoc that he and Peppers would cause offenses. With both those freaks coming off the edge, which way should the offense slide protection? As much as Peppers has helped the play of the other Bears defensive linemen, the addition of Williams will take it to another, almost unheard of, level.

    But that's not to say the Bears shouldn't be ready with an offer for a top wide out. With close to $30 million in cap space, they could afford to get both. I know they still have the Matt Forte situation to deal with and a few of their own free agents, but with a creative contract or two it's possible. The Bears should have a market friendly contract with some incentives ready for one of the top wide outs. They could even decide that their 19th pick in the draft this year is worth pursuing Wallace from Pittsburgh.

    If Williams is the target, there are some secondary free agent receiver options that would be an upgrade over the current crop of Bears receivers. And of course there's always the draft. It's a deep pool of WR talent, and they have the ammunition to go up a few spots if need be.

    New Bears GM Phil Emery will do his due diligence and make sure his first free agent signee has as low of a bust factor as possible. Not only is Mario Williams the top defensive player available, but he's also the safest option.

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    This echoes much of what we've already discussed but perhaps hopefully the idea is gaining traction.
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    Mario would cost more than Peppers and would cripple the Bears ability to address other needs. Nice dream though.

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    Lester is writer much in the same sense that we are and I think he's been over here reading my posts, LOL. But I think he's 100% correct in his position. (of course I do right?)

    MWill is by far the best value play we could possibly make. As Lester points out there will be no great deals on WR's this year either despite the fact that the supply is better than this year. Johnson signs a $35.6/5 deal, Garcon has already turned down a similar offer and these guys are more #2 or #1 1/2 guys right now. VJax is looking for $50 mil or better and I'm guessing Colston, gimpy knees and all, will be looking at a number close to that too.

    Lloyd we have no interest in, and shouldn't, and while Mike Wallace is enticing paying him a kings ransom AND giving up a #1 pick would be foolish IMHO. It's also likely that Meachem will attract offers of only slightly less than Johnson and Garcon. Now doesn't the idea of signing Eddie Royal and reuniting him with Cutler sound like a bargain. He would most likely come in on a two years deal for realistic money and look to regenerate his flagging career teamed with Cutler again and then get a better contract.

    Is Mario Williams worth $90 mil or so? Well, hasn't Pep earned every cent of the $84 mil we're paying him? Hasn't he been a tireless performer and a major difference maker in our defense. Anybody who answers NO to that will be forced to write 100 times, just like I did, "Julius Peppers was a very good deal". So now close your eyes and imagine his clone playing opposite him. No more double and triple teaming Pep. Now add to that Melton, Okoye, and Paea rushing from DT and for the other guys it's gonna be choose your poison time.

    I know we badly need a bigger taller WR and if we were able to land MWill and just Royal it leaves the door open to draft a bigger taller WR in the first round if the guy we like is still on the board because MWill takes care of the need to draft a pass rusher. There are a couple of FA WR's I like but spending upwards of $7 or $8 mil on one in a year when there are a ton of very draftable ones seems like a poorer use of cap dollars than signing a player who we couldn't even get near drafting.

    We never finish low enough in the standings to get a shot at guys like Pep or MWill when they're drafted but here's a chance to man our line with one former #1 overall pick and former #2 overall pick. How often does that opportunity come around? I don't deny that that's an expensive pair of bookends but what makes it possible is that we have only $2.1 mil in cap space taken up but 3 DT, Melton, Toe, and Paea. Even if Okoye costs us $3 mil in cap this year that's only $5.1 mil, or about 4% of the cap, on all four DT's. Even with MWill and Pep the entire starting Dline should have a cap cost no more than 20% of the total cap. I've pointed this out before.

    Sign MWill if possible and Eddie Royal as a sure thing and if we have additional cap space then sign one of the other #2 or #1 1/2 guys or spend that 1st round pick and Floyd or Hill or whichever big body WR seems best. That 1st round WR will cost a fraction of what any of the FA's cost and allows us more cap space to meet other needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear View Post
    Mario would cost more than Peppers and would cripple the Bears ability to address other needs. Nice dream though.
    How about if I told you we could get Mario Williams for as small a 2012 cap hit as $7.5 to $10 mil and there would still be plenty of room to add other talent and bring back our own? Would it be less than a dream?
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    Yes, while having Mario would be nice...it would cost us too much. Why have so much money tied up in one position? Sure...we might have the best DL in the league, but at what expense to our offense?

    No, id much rather splurge and pick up Nicks and possibly VinJack if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    How about if I told you we could get Mario Williams for as small a 2012 cap hit as $7.5 to $10 mil and there would still be plenty of room to add other talent and bring back our own? Would it be less than a dream?
    As a football player having him on this team would be a no-brainer. But you have to consider that he has had some injuries, they'd have to 'overspend" to get him, and you run the risk of pissing off alot of players who have been here for a long time .... cuz seeing The New Kid on the Block getting what would probably amount to the biggest contract in Bears history would have alotta guys thinking " F this place". Plus they could probably get 3 players for his price.

    Love to see it . But the ft office needs to think long and hard about it. There's alot of factors to consider here.
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    My thinking on the Williams matter is that we can spend 100 million in different ways.

    Cark Nicks 7 years 60 million/28 guaranteed

    Pierre Garcon 5 years 35 million/18 guaranteed

    We could get both these guys for the same amount of money as the 100 million that Mario Williams is going to get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    How about if I told you we could get Mario Williams for as small a 2012 cap hit as $7.5 to $10 mil and there would still be plenty of room to add other talent and bring back our own? Would it be less than a dream?
    You're not going to add Mario without sacrificing elsewhere. IMHO, Mario is not as good as Peppers and would not be a wise investment based on the money he'll be seeking. The Bears should be doing a full court press to land VJackson and finding other pieces in FA. The Bears are going to have some guys next year that will be pending FAs. You can't get crazy and cripple yourself by overspending for Mario. Personally, I don't like dumping $10 million + into a defensive player coming off a torn peck. Its lunacy to have nearly $20 million invested in two DEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
    My thinking on the Williams matter is that we can spend 100 million in different ways.

    Cark Nicks 7 years 60 million/28 guaranteed

    Pierre Garcon 5 years 35 million/18 guaranteed

    We could get both these guys for the same amount of money as the 100 million that Mario Williams is going to get paid.
    Now that's what I'm talking about! I could deal with settling for Garcon and Nicks.

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