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    Quote Originally Posted by The Benjamin View Post
    Hasn't that happened in the past? Players suspended before being found guilty in a court of law?
    Not that im aware of...that just screams lawsuit, getting suspended from your job even though your innocent of any wrong doing.

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    Dude makes bad choices re: places and people he decides it's ok to be around. And Lopes burned Rison's house to the ground so the choices some of these guys make for the significant other are dumb. They ain't all angels.

    Eliminate these kinds of choices and things improve naturally. We'll see how things go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmors View Post
    Not that im aware of...that just screams lawsuit, getting suspended from your job even though your innocent of any wrong doing.
    Ben Roethliesberger was never found guilty in a court of law
    Cedric Benson never found guilty in the court of law (think he was suspended....)
    PacMan Jones as far as I know was never found guilty in a court of law

    just three names off the top of my head

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Benjamin View Post
    Ben Roethliesberger was never found guilty in a court of law
    The woman in NV never filed a criminal complaint with police (cant be arrested if youre not charged with a crime),
    and they settled it out of court. In the Georgia case, the prosecutor declined to press charges.

    "Commissioner Roger Goodell handed down the punishment a week after prosecutors decided not to charge Roethlisberger in a case involving a 20-year-old college student who accused him of sexually assaulting her in a Georgia nightclub in March."

    Cedric Benson never found guilty in the court of law (think he was suspended....),
    Benson pleaded no contest, 20 days in jail, 4k fine.


    And i never said "FOUND GUILTY," i said "SETTLED IN COURT," which means the NFl typically waits for the conclusion of any court case before handing down punishments...whether that is being found guilty in court, reaching a plea deal, dismissal of case, or failure to prosecute.

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    Hasn't that happened in the past? Players suspended before being found guilty in a court of law?
    Yeah it's happened but usually when the prima facie evidence is so strong a guilty verdict isn't needed to convict at the NFL level. Hurd hasn't even been to court yet but if the Bears hadn't released him you can bet he'd have been suspended.

    We don't know what the whole story is with this latest dust up and it may be completely bogus. But....like I said trouble follows the guy like a rain cloud. There was hardly a month gone by sometimes when we all heard about his latest troubles with the law. His involvement with what happened before Darrent Williams was shot was the end for him out here.

    The guy is emotionally incapable of controlling his temper or his reaction to certain things. Even when something is coincidental he can still feel threatened by it and lash out. BPD's usually are accompanied by violent outburst of temper over things most of us would let pass. As long as he lives shit like this will keep happening to him unless he finds a way to control it better and there's probably less than a 20% chance that will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Yeah it's happened but usually when the prima facie evidence is so strong a guilty verdict isn't needed to convict at the NFL level. Hurd hasn't even been to court yet but if the Bears hadn't released him you can bet he'd have been suspended.

    We don't know what the whole story is with this latest dust up and it may be completely bogus. But....like I said trouble follows the guy like a rain cloud. There was hardly a month gone by sometimes when we all heard about his latest troubles with the law. His involvement with what happened before Darrent Williams was shot was the end for him out here.

    The guy is emotionally incapable of controlling his temper or his reaction to certain things. Even when something is coincidental he can still feel threatened by it and lash out. BPD's usually are accompanied by violent outburst of temper over things most of us would let pass. As long as he lives shit like this will keep happening to him unless he finds a way to control it better and there's probably less than a 20% chance that will happen.
    I call it being a shit magnet. I know a couple guys like this. They can stay home 364 days out of the year and then the 1 night they go out something happens - sometimes their fault sometimes not ( like being the one guy some a$$h0le decides to pick a fight with ). It's truly weird. If I was BM i'd just stay home and listen to music, watch a movie or play xbox.
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    I have a toilet like that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Yeah it's happened but usually when the prima facie evidence is so strong a guilty verdict isn't needed to convict at the NFL level. Hurd hasn't even been to court yet but if the Bears hadn't released him you can bet he'd have been suspended.
    What player has been suspended before their court case was settled?

    And you cant use Hurd as evidence, because 1.he wasnt suspended, the Bears released him, and 2.Its a hypothetical, you cant predict what "wouldve" happened.

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    Brandon Marshall's "rap sheet"

    New Bears receiver is no stranger to trouble

    New Bears receiver Brandon Marshall is no stranger to trouble. (Carlos Barria/Reuters photo)


    8:13 p.m. CDT, March 14, 2012



    Newly acquired Bears receiver Brandon Marshall has a long list of off-field incidents and twice has been arrested for suspicion of domestic violence. Here is a timeline of those events.

    Oct. 31, 2004: During his junior year at Central Florida, Marshall was arrested at a Denny’s restaurant in Orlando, Fla., on charges of assault on a police officer, disorderly conduct, trespass and resisting arrest without violence and refusal to obey. The charges were dismissed.

    April 8, 2005: Marshall was charged with retail theft, a misdemeanor, after trying to return a stolen set of bed sheets, valued at $19.99, to a Burlington Coat Factory. The charge was dropped.

    June 17, 2006: Marshall and longtime girlfriend Rasheedah Watley both filed police reports alleging physical abuse by the other in a long altercation at an Orlando apartment. No arrests or charges were made.

    Jan. 1, 2007: Marshall was at the Denver nightclub Shelter with Broncos teammates Javon Walker and Darrent Williams, attending a birthday party for Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. As the group left the club in a limousine, Williams was shot fatally in the neck by an unknown assailant. Walker later said the shooter was likely another man at the nightclub who was seeking retaliation after an altercation with Marshall's cousin that evening. Marshall testified at the trial of gunman Willie Clark that he helped escalate the dispute that led to Williams' death.

    Jan. 24, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police interviewed Marshall and his father after an argument in an Orlando parking lot. Marshall claimed his father tried to hit him with his car. His father claimed Marshall had fired a gun. Both men declined to press charges.

    March 18, 2007: In Atlanta, Watley told police Marshall punched her and took her purse while in a hotel. Marshall was gone before police arrived. No charges were filed.

    March 21, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police in Palm Beach County, Fla., interviewed Marshall and Watley twice in the same night after two loud arguments. Both said the disturbances were not physical in nature. No arrests or charges were made.

    March 26, 2007: Marshall was arrested in a Denver suburb on suspicion of domestic violence. Watley reported Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house. Marshall completed anger management counseling and the charges were dropped two months later.

    June 8, 2007: According to the Denver Post, two incident reports were filed by Atlanta police. A friend of Watley’s claimed Marshall hit her car and then threw a rock at the passenger door as Watley was riding in the passenger seat. Watley also told police Marshall cut her in the thigh and punched her in the face. She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

    June 30, 2007: According to the Denver Post, Watley told Atlanta police Marshall punched and choked her at his condo. She had a bruise and scratches. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

    Oct. 22, 2007: Marshall was arrested in Denver and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. He was pulled over driving the wrong way on a one-way street hours after a game. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability-impaired and was sentenced to one year of probation and 24 hours of community service.

    March 6, 2008: Marshall was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery in Atlanta after a dispute with Watley. She told police he punched her in the mouth and eye. Marshall said he cut his hand on glass.

    Aug. 6, 2008: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Marshall for three games for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. The suspension was reduced to one regular-season game and a fine of an additional game check, costing him $52,353.

    March 1, 2009: Marshall was arrested in Atlanta on disorderly conduct charges after allegedly being involved in a dispute with then-fiancee, Michi Nogami-Campbell, now his wife. Charges were dropped the next day.

    Aug. 14, 2009: Marshall was found not guilty on the battery charges from the March 2008 arrest in Atlanta.

    April 23, 2011: Marshall was taken to Broward General Medical Center after Nogami-Campbell stabbed him in the abdomen at their Florida home. Nogami-Campbell told police she stabbed Marshall “out of self-defense.”

    Sunday: Marshall is accused by a 24-year-old woman of punching her in the eye, leaving a black eye, in an altercation outside a club in New York. Marshall’s attorney says it was Marshall’s wife that was injured and says the couple are the true victims in the case.

    Sources: Tribune news services, South Florida Sun-Sentinel
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    Brandon Marshall's "rap sheet"

    New Bears receiver is no stranger to trouble

    New Bears receiver Brandon Marshall is no stranger to trouble. (Carlos Barria/Reuters photo)


    8:13 p.m. CDT, March 14, 2012



    Newly acquired Bears receiver Brandon Marshall has a long list of off-field incidents and twice has been arrested for suspicion of domestic violence. Here is a timeline of those events.

    Oct. 31, 2004: During his junior year at Central Florida, Marshall was arrested at a Denny’s restaurant in Orlando, Fla., on charges of assault on a police officer, disorderly conduct, trespass and resisting arrest without violence and refusal to obey. The charges were dismissed.

    April 8, 2005: Marshall was charged with retail theft, a misdemeanor, after trying to return a stolen set of bed sheets, valued at $19.99, to a Burlington Coat Factory. The charge was dropped.

    June 17, 2006: Marshall and longtime girlfriend Rasheedah Watley both filed police reports alleging physical abuse by the other in a long altercation at an Orlando apartment. No arrests or charges were made.

    Jan. 1, 2007: Marshall was at the Denver nightclub Shelter with Broncos teammates Javon Walker and Darrent Williams, attending a birthday party for Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. As the group left the club in a limousine, Williams was shot fatally in the neck by an unknown assailant. Walker later said the shooter was likely another man at the nightclub who was seeking retaliation after an altercation with Marshall's cousin that evening. Marshall testified at the trial of gunman Willie Clark that he helped escalate the dispute that led to Williams' death.

    Jan. 24, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police interviewed Marshall and his father after an argument in an Orlando parking lot. Marshall claimed his father tried to hit him with his car. His father claimed Marshall had fired a gun. Both men declined to press charges.

    March 18, 2007: In Atlanta, Watley told police Marshall punched her and took her purse while in a hotel. Marshall was gone before police arrived. No charges were filed.

    March 21, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police in Palm Beach County, Fla., interviewed Marshall and Watley twice in the same night after two loud arguments. Both said the disturbances were not physical in nature. No arrests or charges were made.

    March 26, 2007: Marshall was arrested in a Denver suburb on suspicion of domestic violence. Watley reported Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house. Marshall completed anger management counseling and the charges were dropped two months later.

    June 8, 2007: According to the Denver Post, two incident reports were filed by Atlanta police. A friend of Watley’s claimed Marshall hit her car and then threw a rock at the passenger door as Watley was riding in the passenger seat. Watley also told police Marshall cut her in the thigh and punched her in the face. She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

    June 30, 2007: According to the Denver Post, Watley told Atlanta police Marshall punched and choked her at his condo. She had a bruise and scratches. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

    Oct. 22, 2007: Marshall was arrested in Denver and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. He was pulled over driving the wrong way on a one-way street hours after a game. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability-impaired and was sentenced to one year of probation and 24 hours of community service.

    March 6, 2008: Marshall was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery in Atlanta after a dispute with Watley. She told police he punched her in the mouth and eye. Marshall said he cut his hand on glass.

    Aug. 6, 2008: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Marshall for three games for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. The suspension was reduced to one regular-season game and a fine of an additional game check, costing him $52,353.

    March 1, 2009: Marshall was arrested in Atlanta on disorderly conduct charges after allegedly being involved in a dispute with then-fiancee, Michi Nogami-Campbell, now his wife. Charges were dropped the next day.

    Aug. 14, 2009: Marshall was found not guilty on the battery charges from the March 2008 arrest in Atlanta.

    April 23, 2011: Marshall was taken to Broward General Medical Center after Nogami-Campbell stabbed him in the abdomen at their Florida home. Nogami-Campbell told police she stabbed Marshall “out of self-defense.”

    Sunday: Marshall is accused by a 24-year-old woman of punching her in the eye, leaving a black eye, in an altercation outside a club in New York. Marshall’s attorney says it was Marshall’s wife that was injured and says the couple are the true victims in the case.

    Sources: Tribune news services, South Florida Sun-Sentinel
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