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    Bears Confident Marshall Will Stay Out of Trouble.......

    Bear Believe They Can Handle Marshall

    Club thinks solid core and Cutler will be positive influence on receiver with troubled past


    The Bears believe they can keep Brandon Marshall out of trouble. (Marc Serota/Getty photo)



    Dan Pompei On the NFL 9:48 p.m. CDT, March 14, 2012

    When the Patriots were an ascending team about a decade ago, Bill Belichick nary would mess with a character risk.



    Every player he acquired was Boy Scout clean and Belichick, who had been burned with some shady players when he was coach of the Browns, would espouse the virtue of having a high-character team.

    Then, in 2004, Belichick traded for Corey Dillon, who had a history of trouble. In 2007, he drafted Brandon Meriweather, who had been involved in his share of controversies, and he acquired reputed malcontent Randy Moss.

    What changed?

    After winning two Super Bowls, Belichick thought the Patriots locker room was established enough to absorb some players of questionable character.

    "Players we bring in can look at our veterans and learn a lot in terms of preparation, work ethic, how to manage their time, how to train, all those things," Belichick once told me. "There are a lot of good influences in the locker room."

    And so we find Brandon Marshall on the Bears.

    The Bears believe they can assimilate a player with issues, as the Patriots did. They are confident Marshall will not have a negative impact.

    Why?

    It starts in the Halas Hall locker room, which has strong leadership and players who are passionate and committed to football. One of those players is Marshall's all-time favorite quarterback.

    Sources familiar with the two say there is more than chemistry between Marshall and Jay Cutler — there is genuine trust and friendship that should serve Marshall well.

    The Bears also have a well-respected 30-year coaching veteran who will be responsible for keeping Marshall on point. Darryl Drake should be the right blend of taskmaster and mother hen for Marshall. (Chortle, Chortle)

    Offensive coordinator Mike Tice has been down this road before. He could teach a course in diva management given his experiences with Moss on the Vikings.

    Players like Marshall need consistency. There is no more consistent head coach than Lovie Smith.

    All that being said, it would be naive for the Bears to think Marshall will be a different bird just because he is in their nest. They did their homework on Marshall, talking with several of his former coaches and investigating his past. (And hopefully they aren't being naive. BPD isn't about being bad and it isn't going away either)

    So while they can't be surprised if his pattern of behavior continues, they can hope their circumstances will bring out the best in him. (Been there, done that, doesn't work)

    Last July, Marshall had a news conference to announce he had been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, and to say he is seeking treatment. Since then, Marshall had not had any known brushes with trouble until an incident Sunday night for which details still are murky.

    That is encouraging to the Bears. But what is more so is the fact cornerbacks can't cover the guy.

    Let's be honest. You don't knowingly take a risk on a marginal player. You take a risk on a player who can make a difference. (And so we did)

    More 911 calls? Late-night shenanigans? A potential suspension?

    That may come with the territory with Marshall. (Need to change may to will)

    But wait until you see him lay out for one of Cutler's throws.

    Marshall is so talented that if had been clean off the field, he probably would not have been available for any price, let alone two third-round draft picks.


    His true market value likely would be something like a first-round pick, a second-round pick and two fourth-round picks, which is what the Falcons gave up to move up 21 spots in the draft for wide receiver Julio Jones last year.(Why do they always consider that first round pick as if it was extra. They also got a higher first round pick in return which the used to draft him. It actually cost them a second and two fourths to move up for a higher first round pick)

    As it stands, a lot of teams never would have considered Marshall, and they shouldn't have. But he might have more value to the Bears than any other team. (To that I would tend to agree)

    The Bears thought the same way about a young defensive tackle in 2004, so then-general manager Jerry Angelo used a second-round pick on Tank Johnson. Some teams privately said they would not have touched Johnson, a reputed troublemaker.

    But Johnson was a fine player who fit Smith's defense perfectly. He was a great value and the Bears thought they could manage him. Four brushes with the law later, Johnson was released. (I guess we didn't learn that lesson hard enough.)

    A new team always thinks it can manage a potentially disruptive player better than he had been. Sometimes they are right. Often, they are not. (Does the name Brandon Meriweather sound familiar to anyone?)

    Angelo's Bears were through with guys like Johnson and Marshall. With Angelo gone, the club apparently is more willing to take a chance on a player it knows might make Smith a better spokesman for aspirin than a nighttime cold medicine.

    His acquisition only was possible because the Bears have a solid core. And because Marshall can make Packers and Lions look silly.
    (And for that reason as much as anything he was worth risking a couple of mid round picks on)

    dpompei@tribune.com



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    The Bears are more confident than I am but if he can limit his troubles to those he can't get arrested or suspended for we'll be money ahead. Part of the problem with his type of mental condition is that the same type of "cause and effect" reasoning that keeps most of us out of jail is very suppressed in an individual with a BPD.

    But for a couple of draft picks we could throw around anyway he was a good catch because he is a beast to cover when you're 6' and 190lbs and he's 6'4" 230lbs with very long arms and a bit of nasty to him if you try catching a football meant for him.

    Or in other words just about the polar opposite of Roy Williams.
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    Tank Johnson was pretty good for a while .... till he found the gang banger hangouts in Chi-town and decided that THAT was more important than being a pro fb player. Lotta good that did him LOL. Some of these guys are so stupid it's unbafrickinlievable.
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    Tank Johnson was pretty good for a while .... till he found the gang banger hangouts in Chi-town and decided that THAT was more important than being a pro fb player. Lotta good that did him LOL. Some of these guys are so stupid it's unbafrickinlievable.
    In Tank's case I think you're right. It was the company he kept. His entourage so to speak. In Marshall's case it's a by product of a personality disorder that isn't really curable and at times isn't even controllable. Cause and effect are somewhat foreign to those people with BPD or any dissociative disorder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    In Tank's case I think you're right. It was the company he kept. His entourage so to speak.....
    The loaded gun in his lap, sitting in his car alone, outside a nightclub? That strikes me as a personality disorder.








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