Thread: Here's What MWill Got From the Bills.............

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

The prices for FA's are absurd; anyone complaining about Forte wanting his, just ask this question, who's a better/more important peice on their team...Forte and his probably 15-20 mil guarantee demands(along the lines of other RB's) or Pierre Garcon who got 40mil and that much in guarantees...also remember that WR's aren't imporant to win SB's, it's the qb the OL and the DL that win you SB's. WR is about the last piece you need.

Garcon only has $20 mil guaranteed of a $42.5 mil deal and $11 mil of that is his SB. The rest is a 100% salary guarantee against injury years 1 and 2 and a very small guarantee in year 3. The rest of any bonus is all incentive based.

This is how things are misunderstood as to structure. Outside of his salary all that he's getting for sure is and $11 mil SB, not $20 mil. They're guaranteeing 100% of his salary, $7.7 mil for the first two years. Big deal. How likely is it that they'd cut him anyway and take a $6.6 mil "dead money" cap hit. So that guarantee includes his salary which would in all likelihood be paid anyway. It's not extra bonus money and if his skills fail after year one they're off the hook. They can cut him without paying him one red cent more.

The only thing he's fully assured of is his SB and first years salary, a total of $13.2 mil. If you look at the actual terms of some of these deals you see a lot of smoke that won't necessarily turn into a fire. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

ya b/c you cannot possibly get 10 mil in endorsements in Buffalo, which is just outside NY.

You're joking right? Are you saying he can get $10 mil in endorsements because Buffalo is just outside of NY City????? That's like saying Green Bay is just outside Chicago only Buffalo is twice as far from the City as Chicago is from GB. Maybe I just misunderstood but upstate NY is a whole different world.

Originally Posted by soulman

You're joking right? Are you saying he can get $10 mil in endorsements because Buffalo is just outside of NY City????? That's like saying Green Bay is just outside Chicago only Buffalo is twice as far from the City as Chicago is from GB. Maybe I just misunderstood but upstate NY is a whole different world.

All I'm saying is that being in the middle of no where doesn't preclude you from big time endorsements anymore. Farve, Manning both have big time endorsements; ya they are top notch qb's, but if he wants endorsements as a top notch DE(see reggie white in GB for instance) he can get them.

I mistated on the guaranteed, I was talking guaranteed money along the lines of what (i'm assuming) forte wants, 15-20 mil. That is guaranteed, the forty million I know could have a good portion thrown away outside that 20 million.

Wow, lots to respond to here. Even Springfield is closer to the city than Buffalo is, LOL. But I understand what Ric was trying to say.

Yes Jimmors, I'm disappointed we didn't get him because the fit was perfect but the Bills had the coin to turn it their way and I'll applaud them for that. At about $90 mil I stopped working out numbers in my head. We did what we could but Buffalo did better. Whether or not MWill is better off remains to be seen. And like I said, you can't lose what was never your to begin with.

Ric, Green Bay has a long and very high profile image as Titletown USA. It may be small but GB gets significant national attention and has for as long as I've been aware of pro football. GB has a tremendous global fans base. I doubt Buffalo could match that. I believe they're the second smallest market in the NFL and known primarily as a team that lost 4 consecutive Super Bowls. Green Bay has won more championships than any other NFL team They even attract significant attention in Chicago whereas New Yorkers could care less about a city 400 miles upstate and even less about there football team. Buffalo is trying to court fans from Toronto because they can't fill it with their own. GB does not have that problem. In other words there is no fair comparison between the two. His exposure would be far better in GB than Buffalo but apparently that wasn't enough of a concern to change his mind.

BBPapaBear I think you're right. Pep is a more complete player than MWill is right now. I believe MWill would have benefited greatly from playing with Pep but maybe wearing #90 in Buffalo than #95 or whatever in Chicago was important too. Maybe he just didn't want to share the limelight or then again maybe it was just the almighty buck. It's never a good idea to buy what you can't afford and clearly signing him at his price would have stretched us to thin. I said from the get go that we take our best shot and let the chips fall where they may. We did and we move on. There are other fair damsels to court. Just because the first girl you ask to the prom turns you down is no reason no to ask another.

It's just another day in the life. We didn't have him before and we'll get along without him now. It was just a very delicious dream to conjure up watching Rodgers trying scramble away from that two headed monster. So we draft a good pass rusher instead and save about $90 mil we can put to use elsewhere.