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    LSU WR Rueben Randle clocked forty times of 4.33 and 4.37 at the Tigers' Thursday Pro Day.

    Randle ran 4.50 and 4.56 at the Combine. While LSU has a fast track (Mo Claiborne improved from 4.50 to 4.39), Randle clearly is not speed deficient. Randle also drew praise for his work in position drills. "He did an outstanding job of reaching out and plucking the ball with his hands," said one source at the workout. Sporting News' Russ Lande expects Randle to be a top-20 pick.
    See that's the thing I don't like about pro-days. If Randle runs 4.33 on a fast track at home then you factor in putting in any other combine wr's running there too so relatively speaking he isn't faster. I'm not against Randle btw.
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    I pretty much agree. At the risk of being flamed again, I wouldn't pass up a DE Emery/Lovie/Marinelli likes for Floyd or Hill or Wright. If we had landed the Mario Williams coup it would be a very different story and I'd probably be screaming for one of those guys as BPA for us. The irony is that a lot of folks who were saying before FA that "MW is too expensive, we need to sign a #1WR and we can just draft a pass rusher" are the same people who are now saying they want to use the 1st on another WR after trading for Marshall and put off a passrusher until 2 or 3!

    I don't get that. We just got one of the top 5 WRs in the NFL cheaply and we obviously were (unsuccesfully) in pursuit of a DE in addition so why wouldn't that be the likely first draft priority if there is someone available we like???

    To BHS: I empathize with the desire for an LT upgrade competely but it isn't gonna happen in round 1 since Adams flamed out at the Combine. There's no one available who immediately upgrades Webb. So its either move CWill over to compete or Webb is just handed the job. I'd like the former with hopefully a down-draft developmental prospect thrown in there for down the road. I wish we had a shot at Kalil or Reiff but that ain't gonna happen.
    I really don't think it is MP. I'm on the side of the fence with those analysts who believe that as far as the Bears were concerned FA was more about fixing gaps in the offense than the defense and that Marshall was an immediate target because Cutler asked for him and Emery saw the wisdom of complying with that request if the price was right. I think in this case it was even better than right. It was a friggin' steal if Marshall produces like he's capable of.

    Cutler to Marshall just put us in the same league as Stafford to Megatron and Rodgers to Jennings and Earl Bennett will immediately become more effective because of it. This is one of those deals where the sum of the parts is far greater than it first appears. A top QB throwing to two guys he has infinite trust in looks pretty good to me. The talent drops off after that unless guys like Sanz and Hester can step up their play but bargain shopping in the mid rounds for another big body to compete can help solve that problem.

    Spending a first on a WR this year if there is better talent to be had elsewhere is overkill. If we need more at WR there are Floyd's and Wright's in every draft and we're not missing out on a sure fire HOF receiver with either of them.
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    Most of these guys put up good numbers at their pro days auditioning in familiar surroundings. That's no surprise. But that may or may not help them. It's the guys who don't perform well who sink like a stone. Watch for that in the coming rankings and mocks.

    I think the sheer number of bigger and smaller WR's who are turning in a good show this years means there will be a good supply of both wideouts and slot guys to pick from and it won't be necessary to push the panic button and reach for one. After the top two or three you could virtually toss the others names in a hat, pick one, and know that you made a decent pick. I just don't see many miles separating these guys. It all depends upon whose strong points you like more and whose weak points you can either live with or eliminate with good coaching.

    There are a dozen or more guys who could go in the rounds two and three who'll play in the NFL at one level or another and a few more who will slide down into the middle rounds just because it's a numbers game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Most of these guys put up good numbers at their pro days auditioning in familiar surroundings. That's no surprise. But that may or may not help them. It's the guys who don't perform well who sink like a stone. Watch for that in the coming rankings and mocks.

    I think the sheer number of bigger and smaller WR's who are turning in a good show this years means there will be a good supply of both wideouts and slot guys to pick from and it won't be necessary to push the panic button and reach for one. After the top two or three you could virtually toss the others names in a hat, pick one, and know that you made a decent pick. I just don't see many miles separating these guys. It all depends upon whose strong points you like more and whose weak points you can either live with or eliminate with good coaching.

    There are a dozen or more guys who could go in the rounds two and three who'll play in the NFL at one level or another and a few more who will slide down into the middle rounds just because it's a numbers game.
    Even if you assume Blackmon, Floyd, Hill, Wright, and Randle ALL go in the first (ahem, doubt that), there's still a bunch of good prospects out there for us in 2 or even early 3.

    Sanu, Jeffery, Jones, Toon, Quick, McNutt come to mind and I'm only citing the 6' 2" and up guys. There's no need to take a WR in 1 esp if there's a DL or OL guy we want available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    See that's the thing I don't like about pro-days. If Randle runs 4.33 on a fast track at home then you factor in putting in any other combine wr's running there too so relatively speaking he isn't faster. I'm not against Randle btw.

    The main difference is that the combine official times have an electronic start.

    The electronic start punishes players who had bad track technique and adds a tenth to 2 tenths because the time starts before the runner truly starts moving.

    The time starts when the hand is raised or when it moves, so if you move your hand early without moving your body your time sucks. With really good electronic times you will almost see the player leave their hand down well after their body has started and try and fool the laser.

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