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About LinkBacksIm still a konz fan what if flloyd decastro perry were gone (and few others) what would you think about trading down to grab him?
He could make an immedate impact and be our center for 10+ years
Im still a konz fan what if flloyd decastro perry were gone (and few others) what would you think about trading down to grab him?
He could make an immedate impact and be our center for 10+ years
I like really Konz too. But his disappointing Combine bench plus his injury concerns are hurting his stock from what I gather. He didn't work out at the UW pro day due to lack of medical clearance but is supposed to next month instead. Lot will depend on how that goes. I would consider him in 2 if he falls that far. There's been speculation that GB may take him in late 1 since they just lost Scott Wells in FA.Originally Posted by Grizzblue
Last edited by MPBears68; 03-17-2012 at 02:38 PM.
I think hes worth the gamble was a very very good college player and that says more than sub par combine numbers
I'm kind of in that middle ground area in my judgement about the Oline as well. The interior positions did surprisingly well so as it stands we have some talent and enough depth to move CWill to OT if needed. Plus we get Carimi back and while Louis wasn't horrible his best position is not OT.
The line couldn't have done that bad as a run blocking unti to have had Forte averaging 4.9 ypc and Bell 4.6. Even when you add Barber in with his short yardage and goal line runs as a team we gained 4.5 ypc. Somebody had to block somebody else some of the time for that to happen. Pass blocking was suspect but as typical of Martz he never made it easier on anyone. He was reckless and arrogant and stupid but he is no more and that's that.
Before I pass judgement on these guys I'd like to at least see what they can do with someone running the offense who's familiar with their capabilities and how not to put then a bad situations. I think they deserve that much since they kicked as a run blocking unit last year.
All that aside I still believe we need to draft an OG and an OT within the first 4 rounds. We should be dafting Olineman every year for a while until we've got a solid group with good backup. That part of our offense has been ignored way to long.
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I was also unimpressed w/Konz and his bench. But I've also seen the other side of the coin where the a prospect could bench press a Buick and flame out anyhow. As long as it doesn't affect his functional strength and can hit the weights as a reserve I'm ok w/him. I think my order (if you could pick) would be:
DeCastro
Konz
Zeitler
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I'd much rather wait out OL until round three and see which of the many second-round worthy guys spilled over into that round or the fourth to do the same with the third. There is an absolute ton of guys from 2-3 who I really like as interior prospects. I'm going into JA trade-down mode hoping we can pick up another 3/4 pick just because of that, in fact.
Last edited by lklrlolnlilklsox; 03-17-2012 at 06:27 PM.
I'd like to see the Bears grab the best possible player, ready to contribute right away, regardless of position int his draft after rd 1. Having surveyed the OL prospects for this draft...I'm not really sure there are too many guys available, where the Bears are picking at, that are going to serve as much of an upgrade over anyone who is currently on the roster. The guys that would be an upgrade will be long gone before the Bears pick in both rds and I don't want the Bears using their #1 pick on any O-lineman.
Zeitler would be a great 2nd rounder around 50 where he's projected to go but if we don't fill some other gaps in FA the question is can we use a 2nd round pick on a lineman? We should but we seem to ignore what we should do at times. The OT's are weak. After the top 4 I don't there's another guy worth more than a 3rd or 4th round pick.
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I do not really believe Zaidman, this is misinformation season and all of a sudden he is talking about the OL.
This is a phenomenal draft for interior OLmen and I would like to see us take advantage of that depth by drafting a starter in the 2nd round and allowing Chris Williams to compete at LT.
Zeitler at 50 would be an incredible pick and give us a talented young player to build around.
You read my mind. I would also be looking to pick up a sleeper OT prospect like McCants or Schwartz or Mosley down draft so we can actually start developing another OT. To make this plausible, we really have to sign a vet DB in FA and secure Okoye. It's all but assured we are going to go passrusher in round 1 unless some "can't miss" BPA falls to us unexpectedly.
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Before free agency started, we posted the draft needs for the Bears and listed WR and DE as their top two priorities this offseason. On Tuesday, new GM Phil Emery upgraded the WR position (and added a No.1 target for QB Jay Cutler) when he traded for Brandon Marshall.
ICONWhitney Mercilus would be a fit in Chicago as a 4-3 rush end.
But what about the DE position? With Mario Williams landing in Buffalo and Jeremy Mincey re-signing in Jacksonville, the free agent market is thin. And outside of taking a look at Kamerion Wimbley if he is cut from the Raiders (or some second tier options on the market), the Bears will have to focus on the April draft.
On Thursday night, the club re-signed veteran Israel Idonije. But to create competition (and add speed) in Lovie Smith's Tamps 2 defense, the Bears can look to draft a rookie that will rush off the edge (think 3rd downs) opposite Julius Peppers.
And by finding that player through draft, the Bears have the opportunity to get younger on defense and upgrade the pass rush.
A prospect such as Whitney Mercilus. Speed and production (16 sacks) this past season at Illinois. With his stock on the rise, the DE could be an option at No.19 (if he is till on the board). Or, look outside of the first round with Virginia’s Cam Johnson, Clemson's Andre Branch or Marshall’s Vinny Curry. This isn’t a very deep DE class, but there are still prospects to target if the Bears make it a top priority.
When you look at the Xs and Os on the defensive side of the ball, getting that pressure from the front four is crucial to the success of the scheme. Yes, the Bears will use zone (and man) bliz schemes in both their base and nickel packages, but it starts up front. Rush four, play coverage and take away the vertical passing game.
Plenty of time to discuss this as we build up to the draft and work through Pro Days on campus. But after the Bears made some noise with the trade for Marshall to fill a void at WR, they still have to find some help at DE.
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