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Originally Posted by
WindyCity
The Bears are in an arms race with the Lions and the Packers and while Marshall helps it does not put us on their level. This division is going to be won by teams that can score.
Kendall Wright is a dynamic play maker and has some serious game speed and as much as I wish he was taller than 5'10" the guy is constantly getting behind defenses. Wright is also more physical than a guy his size should be and on the WR screens and crossing routes he looks like Steve Smith.
I would have no problem if we picked Wright regardless of the board because he adds another weapon for Cutler to take advantage of.
To me Wright, Mercilus and Perry are all ranked the same as they are 15-25.
I'm with you. I hope Emery sees things the way you and I do.
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honestly, if we're set at OL, then I want Michael Floyd, then Kendall Wright as the first pic.
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Originally Posted by
Bear Goggles
I'm just afraid we have guys in this mold already, 6' and shorter quick playmakers, problem was they never seemed to use the speed as an advantage with quick crossing routes. I'm all for weapons but what does Wright have that Hester/Knox can't provide us with. I would just hate to get another fast 6 footer at 19 when we can help somewhere else.
What he has is fearlessness- which is something that neither Knox or Hester has ( especially Hester who absolutely hates playing with his head turned away from defenders ) which is why he'll never be a great slot receiver. I think he's gonna make plays, cuz he's very tough , very determined, and he's used to it . It's who he is.
Knox and Hester are go-route guys, which is what they should be. This trying to fit a square peg in a round hole stuff they've been trying with these two is never gonna work. Doesn't mean they're useless, it just means they should be used in the way that suits their playing styles. Actually it should be a good thing because they give the opposing corners and safeties something different to think about - which can open up other things for the offense.
What should you call any : Fumble , Hold , Interception , Three and out , or Sack ?
A " F.H.I.T.S " ? or a J'Marcus ?
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Originally Posted by
Bear Goggles
I'm just afraid we have guys in this mold already, 6' and shorter quick playmakers, problem was they never seemed to use the speed as an advantage with quick crossing routes. I'm all for weapons but what does Wright have that Hester/Knox can't provide us with. I would just hate to get another fast 6 footer at 19 when we can help somewhere else.
How about a 1st Round, polished wide-receiving talent who is: 1. A actual bonified Wide Receiver (through high-school & college) and 2. Not a 5th-Round Wide Receiver from Albilene Christian.
Just a guess, but if Hester, Knox & Wright raced (over shorter distances), multiple times; the victorys would go both ways.
Let's just be honest here, some of you are simply afraid of this guy due to the 4.6 he ran at the Combine, coupled with the fact that he's 5'10. Like others have said before me, look at the tape. All it takes is 1 guy to prove your theory wrong here: Steve Smith. Remember him? That's the 32-year old, 5'9 Wide Receiver who went for 181 Yards in Week 4 against us, last year.
The only thing Steve Smith has in common with Devin Hester and Johnny Knox is a 40-yard dash time & height. Obviously, those similarities equivilate into absolutely nothing else. The same is true of Kendall Wright.
Last edited by codykoch; 03-22-2012 at 08:50 AM.
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Ok I see your points and as far as Knox goes if he ever gets back on the field he's going to be hearing footsteps in his helmet for the rest of his career and after that injury I would say rightly so. I just hesitate to get excited with this pick because Cutler seems to prefer bigger go up and get it guys, he's worked with similar build WRs for 3 seasons here in Chicago and what is the most catches by any of them?
I would rather see big quick targets, go with what we have, and Earl Bennett and use the first round pick on something more. Just because you take a WR in the first round doesn't mean they are a polished WR (cough cough cough David Terrel).
Oh and Steve Smith 8 catches 181 yards, 0 TDs. I'd rather have a guy go up and bring 'em down inside the 20. Last I checked TDs win games not yards.
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That said, I would much prefer us drafting a Quality Offensive Lineman or a Defensive Player with that 1st Round Pick.
I see what you're saying about Cutler's preferences, I didn't consider that.
Let go of past hurts', forget about David Terrell. We still have to take our chances with guys if we want a place at the table.
Last edited by codykoch; 03-22-2012 at 09:37 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Bear Goggles
Ok I see your points and as far as Knox goes if he ever gets back on the field he's going to be hearing footsteps in his helmet for the rest of his career and after that injury I would say rightly so. I just hesitate to get excited with this pick because Cutler seems to prefer bigger go up and get it guys, he's worked with similar build WRs for 3 seasons here in Chicago and what is the most catches by any of them?
I would rather see big quick targets, go with what we have, and Earl Bennett and use the first round pick on something more. Just because you take a WR in the first round doesn't mean they are a polished WR (cough cough cough David Terrel).
Oh and Steve Smith 8 catches 181 yards, 0 TDs. I'd rather have a guy go up and bring 'em down inside the 20. Last I checked TDs win games not yards.
Kendall Wright: 5'-10", 188 Lbs.
Eddie Royal: 5'-10". 185 Lbs. 91 receptions for 980 yards and 5 TD's his rookie year with Cutler throwing him the ball and Brandon Marshall on the other side.
Food for thought.
I can't say Wright is my first choice and I must admit that one of the things that scares me is his combine 40 as referenced above. It might not be fair, but it is what it is. I am relieved that he ran better at his pro day. Frankly, there are several guys that will make this team better that can be selected at 19 and he's one of them. I'm not sure which one will help us most, because all have the potential to be dynamic at their respective positions. I'm an O-Line guy, always have been, always will be, but at some point we have to quit using 1st round picks on the big uglies (although the late rounders don't usually pan out either). You can build an adequate to good O-Line in the middle rounds IF you know what your looking for.
Last edited by 4DaBERS; 03-22-2012 at 09:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by
Bear Goggles
Ok I see your points and as far as Knox goes if he ever gets back on the field he's going to be hearing footsteps in his helmet for the rest of his career and after that injury I would say rightly so. I just hesitate to get excited with this pick because Cutler seems to prefer bigger go up and get it guys, he's worked with similar build WRs for 3 seasons here in Chicago and what is the most catches by any of them?
I would rather see big quick targets, go with what we have, and Earl Bennett and use the first round pick on something more. Just because you take a WR in the first round doesn't mean they are a polished WR (cough cough cough David Terrel).
Oh and Steve Smith 8 catches 181 yards, 0 TDs. I'd rather have a guy go up and bring 'em down inside the 20. Last I checked TDs win games not yards.
Steve Smith scores TDs, last season 79 catches, 1394 yards, 7 TDs.
Wright would be our deep threat that clears out defense and scores on big plays.
Marshall would be our red zone threat.
This is how good teams do it on offense.
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Originally Posted by
4DaBERS
Kendall Wright: 5'-10", 188 Lbs.
Eddie Royal: 5'-10". 185 Lbs. 91 receptions for 980 yards and 5 TD's his rookie year with Cutler throwing him the ball and Brandon Marshall on the other side.
Food for thought.
I can't say Wright is my first choice and I must admit that one of the things that scares me is his combine 40 as referenced above. It might not be fair, but it is what it is. I am relieved that he ran better at his pro day. Frankly, there are several guys that will make this team better that can be selected at 19 and he's one of them. I'm not sure which one will help us most, because all have the potential to be dynamic at their respective positions. I'm an O-Line guy, always have been, always will be, but at some point we have to quit using 1st round picks on the big uglies (although the late rounders don't usually pan out either). You can build an adequate to good O-Line in the middle rounds IF you know what your looking for.
This is true and also Eddie Royal never heard from again since Cutler left. I think the Bears have the unique position of having a QB that can make WRs be better than they are. That being said it's the reason I'd rather see them draft a Hill or Floyd if available to develop alongside Marshall and give another option rather than one big WR and five 6' and unders. Just my personal opinion, I think too much goes into what these guys run in their underwear, Devin Hester is one of the fastest players I've ever seen in pads and I think he ran a 4.47 at the combine. Pad speed and 40 speed totally different.
I'm just excited to see how it plays out with our scouting genius.
And the Steve Smith point was more to say you can skew statistics any way you want, he had a monster year last year, but didn't he have 2 down seasons and practically want out of there before than?
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Originally Posted by
Bear Goggles
This is true and also Eddie Royal never heard from again since Cutler left. I think the Bears have the unique position of having a QB that can make WRs be better than they are. That being said it's the reason I'd rather see them draft a Hill or Floyd if available to develop alongside Marshall and give another option rather than one big WR and five 6' and unders. Just my personal opinion, I think too much goes into what these guys run in their underwear, Devin Hester is one of the fastest players I've ever seen in pads and I think he ran a 4.47 at the combine. Pad speed and 40 speed totally different.
I'm just excited to see how it plays out with our scouting genius.
And the Steve Smith point was more to say you can skew statistics any way you want, he had a monster year last year, but didn't he have 2 down seasons and practically want out of there before than?
That's certainly sound logic in my opinion. All I'm suggesting is that Wright might not be as bad as some (including myself) think. My comments are almost as much for me as anyone else. Just trying to get behind whomever we may pick. Frankly, I really like Hill, but how many guys like him have come into the league with 1st round picks and failed. Their size and physical attributes are so enticing, where a guy like Wright has proven it with production. That said, is his production more a function of a tremendous QB? Hell, I'm just as prone to talk myself out of some of these guys than talk myself into them.
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