Were Bears affected by the New Orleans Hit Squad?

The more I read about the Saints having bounties on certain players, the angrier I get. My son in law is a high school coach and my grandson plays Freshman high school football. I just wonder what kind of message they are getting to hear that there are "hits" out on players on a professional level. What the hell was going on in the minds of Greg Williams and Sean Payton and anyone who was involved in these "hits"? I don't think a single season suspension is good enough in this case. In reality, any of the "victims" of the hit squad could/should file assault charges and conspiracy charges against these people. Any hit that was delivered with the intention of doing bodily harm to another human being would bring felony charges in any other case. So do we allow the people who followed the orders of their coaching staff to do that harm to then get off with only a suspension or fine when it would mean jail time to you or me? The NFL can not let this slide if in the rest of society it would result in criminal charges. To say, "It's just a game.", isn't going to work in this situation. Imagine if while trying to hurt a quarterback during a game it went to far and that qb was either paralyzed due to a snapped neck, or worse yet he was killed. Would it be enough to explain it away as just a game when you know damn well it was done intentionally to collect a lousy $15,000!? We all know that there are some intense rivalries in the game, and that some players will try a little harder to "hurt" the other team by injuring a player from the other team. But this is pre-meditated bodily injury, and that is a lot more serious by it's very nature. The idea that a coach would purposely send people out onto the field with the intent to hurt and maim an opposing player is beyond playing a game. I'm freaked out that a coach wants a win so bad that he would even consider putting a bounty on another human being. What happened to good sportsmanship? If football has gotten to the point that hurting someone on purpose becomes a norm, then maybe it's time to just end football altogether. So yes, those people who are/were a part of planned injuries to other players need to be dealt with harshly. No fines or suspensions can make up for someone's permanent disability and then inability to provide, play, earn, and even just live a normal life. These people who are charged with this crime need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and then banned from all sports for life.

There was a list out about the five QBs who were on the hit list. Cutler was not on that list.

Just for kicks and giggles I hope they lobby for the 'Aint's picks. Maybe they'll catch ol' "hangin' Goodell" in a generous mood.

Roman Harper had to have been paid for that hit on Earl Bennett.

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Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

Roman Harper had to have been paid for that hit on Earl Bennett.

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I believe it and maybe there would be some justice in confiscating picks and doling them out to teams whose players were victims of a bounty. When a method of play sets out to intentionally deprive teams of their star players I can't think of a better eye for an eye punishment. Losing only two draft picks was a light rap on the knuckles in that regard.

I'm glad to see Payton and their Asst.HC suspended. If you're not aware of something like a bounty system that sets out to potentially destroy players careers then you should have been. The buck needs to stop somewhere. I saw a poll asking whether the penalties the Saints got were to severe and the only states with a majority of respondents saying yes were TX, AK, LA, and MS. That figures.

I was a Saints fan at one time because I was glad to see that team turn itself around after all those years in the cellar. Now, they should rot in the cellar for another three decades and the league should suspend every player on that team who took part in that system starting with Vilma. If we have to start calling them the NO "Replacements" that's fine with me. Just think how much money Tom Benson can save by signing Keeanu Reeves to play QB rather than Drew Brees.

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Originally Posted by soulman

I believe it and maybe there would be some justice in confiscating picks and doling them out to teams whose players were victims of a bounty. When a method of play sets out to intentionally deprive teams of their star players I can't think of a better eye for an eye punishment. Losing only two draft picks was a light rap on the knuckles in that regard.

I'm glad to see Payton and their Asst.HC suspended. If you're not aware of something like a bounty system that sets out to potentially destroy players careers then you should have been. The buck needs to stop somewhere. I saw a poll asking whether the penalties the Saints got were to severe and the only states with a majority of respondents saying yes were TX, AK, LA, and MS. That figures.

I was a Saints fan at one time because I was glad to see that team turn itself around after all those years in the cellar. Now, they should rot in the cellar for another three decades and the league should suspend every player on that team who took part in that system starting with Vilma. If we have to start calling them the NO "Replacements" that's fine with me. Just think how much money Tom Benson can save by signing Keeanu Reeves to play QB rather than Drew Brees.

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Two questions...

Why the hell would Alaska (AK) give two shits about the Saints?

How the hell do you suspend a GM?

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Originally Posted by MikesNephew

The more I read about the Saints having bounties on certain players, the angrier I get. My son in law is a high school coach and my grandson plays Freshman high school football. I just wonder what kind of message they are getting to hear that there are "hits" out on players on a professional level. What the hell was going on in the minds of Greg Williams and Sean Payton and anyone who was involved in these "hits"? I don't think a single season suspension is good enough in this case. In reality, any of the "victims" of the hit squad could/should file assault charges and conspiracy charges against these people. Any hit that was delivered with the intention of doing bodily harm to another human being would bring felony charges in any other case. So do we allow the people who followed the orders of their coaching staff to do that harm to then get off with only a suspension or fine when it would mean jail time to you or me? The NFL can not let this slide if in the rest of society it would result in criminal charges. To say, "It's just a game.", isn't going to work in this situation. Imagine if while trying to hurt a quarterback during a game it went to far and that qb was either paralyzed due to a snapped neck, or worse yet he was killed. Would it be enough to explain it away as just a game when you know damn well it was done intentionally to collect a lousy $15,000!? We all know that there are some intense rivalries in the game, and that some players will try a little harder to "hurt" the other team by injuring a player from the other team. But this is pre-meditated bodily injury, and that is a lot more serious by it's very nature. The idea that a coach would purposely send people out onto the field with the intent to hurt and maim an opposing player is beyond playing a game. I'm freaked out that a coach wants a win so bad that he would even consider putting a bounty on another human being. What happened to good sportsmanship? If football has gotten to the point that hurting someone on purpose becomes a norm, then maybe it's time to just end football altogether. So yes, those people who are/were a part of planned injuries to other players need to be dealt with harshly. No fines or suspensions can make up for someone's permanent disability and then inability to provide, play, earn, and even just live a normal life. These people who are charged with this crime need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and then banned from all sports for life.

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Very well said MN. Nicely done.

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Originally Posted by The Benjamin

There was a list out about the five QBs who were on the hit list. Cutler was not on that list.

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but you do realize those cock suckers are the ones who stepped on his throat purposely right? the more i read into this the more i think the Saints win should be taken away along with the patriots wins. Is that the way people win anymore? Is cheating the only way?! Ben nothing too you i just get fired up the more i read into this cuz its whats wrong with the sport today

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Originally Posted by VJ18

but you do realize those cock suckers are the ones who stepped on his throat purposely right? the more i read into this the more i think the Saints win should be taken away along with the patriots wins. Is that the way people win anymore? Is cheating the only way?! Ben nothing too you i just get fired up the more i read into this cuz its whats wrong with the sport today

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I agree. Especially when you have players suing the league for not doing enough to protect the players. This shit makes their claims look baseless

Okay, let's say that spygate made it so the Pats were unbeatable, and somehow that's worse than intentionally using your 200lb body as a spear towards a weak spot on another human, then so what? The Pats didn't hurt anyone, at won they got a few games they didn't deserve. The Saints, on the other hand, are like the teams of old like Forrest Gregg's 86 packers...If that idiot Martin hadn't injured McMahon so deliberately, then the Bears likely would've had a deserved dynasty. I wonder who the saints did that to, that could say the same, but I can tell you we needed Bennett a lot more than we had him this year, and same with Carimi. BTW, it's only obvious if your team played the saints from 2009-2011 and you think an injury was fishy, you're more than likely right, because Sean Payton was such an arrogant ****** about getting caught and told to stop that they really banned HIM more for being a douche than his on-field stuff.