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    Bears Looking Hard at DE's and Pass Rushers.................

    Chicago Bears Report

    Bears show special interest in Mercilus

    April, 13, 2012 Apr 13
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    By Jeff Dickerson | ESPNChicago.com


    Tony Medina/Icon SMILovie Smith and Rod Marinelli were in attendance to watch Whitney Mercilus.
    CHICAGO -- Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith and defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli were in attendance when the club traveled to the University of Illinois campus to work out former Fighting Illini defensive end Whitney Mercilus on March 12, six days after the school held its official pro day for NFL scouts.

    ESPN NFL Draft Analyst Mel Kiper Jr.'s latest mock draft has the Bears selecting Mercilus in the first round at No. 19.

    "The persona I got from Lovie was a guy who was all about business, but he's really chilled and laid back," Mercilus told ESPNChicago.com on Friday. "He seems to be a players' coach, really cool and easy to talk to. But I also get the persona that he's a guy who is passionate about this game. He definitely has kept a close eye on everything that has happened in the draft and is (focused) on who to draft and who fits in their system. A guy who loves to handle business also, and wants to win.

    "Working with (Marinelli), he's definitely everything that I expected out of a defensive line coach, to push me hard. He's easy to talk to and is somebody who is going to help you improve in this game."

    After two relatively quiet years for the Illini, Whitney exploded last season when he led the nation in sacks (16) and forced fumbles (9). The 6-4, 261-pound pass rusher also registered 22.5 tackles for a loss in his third and final season at Illinois. A consensus All-American selection, Whitney was the recipient of the 2011 Ted Hendricks Award, handed out annually to the best defensive end in the country.

    Smith made no secret of his desire to upgrade the Bears' pass rush in the offseason.
    Perennial Pro Bowl defensive end Julius Peppers led the team with 11 sacks in 2011, but was the only member of the unit to reach double-figures in the category. Fellow starting defensive end Israel Idonije, who the team recently re-signed to a one-year contract, tallied five sacks. The other defensive ends currently on the roster are 2010 fourth-round draft choice Corey Wootton, veteran Chauncey Davis and Thaddeus Gibson.

    "That would be awesome (to play on the Bears veteran defense)," Mercilus said. "That's a seasoned defense with elite guys, veterans. Definitely there would be high expectations for me to come into that program. I would love to try and live up to those expectations and prove myself to them."

    Mercilus has made official visits to several teams, including the Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions.
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    Bears to host Syracuse DE prospect Jones

    Bears general manager Phil Emery says he's looking for "dynamic" players. (Chris Walker/Tribune Photo / April 11, 2012)




    By Brad Biggs, Tribune reporter 9:29 a.m. CDT, April 11, 2012


    General manager Phil Emery has talked at length about what he’s seeking to stock the Chicago Bears roster, and words he has repeated multiple times include sudden, dynamic and playmakers.

    If Chandler Jones is anything like his older brother Jon “Bones” Jones, the current UFC light heavyweight champion, he’s definitely sudden and likely dynamic. The Bears will get a closer look Thursday when they host the defensive end from Syracuse on a pre-draft visit, according to an NFL source.

    Football also runs in the family of the 6-foot-5, 266-pound Jones. Arthur Jones, another brother, is a defensive lineman for the Baltimore Ravens.

    Chandler Jones was a first-team All-Big East selection last season despite missing five games with a knee injury suffered in the season opener against Wake Forest. He had two sacks in a game vs. West Virginia and two forced fumbles against Connecticut. He's considered a developing talent. In three seasons, he was credited with 147 tackles, 27 stops for loss and 10 sacks, 4 1/2 of which came last season.

    The popular prospect already has made visits to the Bills, Browns, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Jets and Panthers, according to Aaron Wilson of Scout.com. He’s also expected to visit the Dolphins.

    Jones was timed as fast as 4.74 seconds in the 40-yard dash at the NFL scouting combine, and he put up 22 reps on the bench press at 225 pounds.

    The Bears have also been keeping close tabs on another Big East defensive end, West Virginia’s Bruce Irvin.

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    NFL Draft: Instant Impact Prospects

    Which prospects have the ability to come in and contribute right away? Wes Bunting

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    A look at the most NFL ready prospects out there…

    ICONIrvin's first step will instantly make him a threat off the edge.


    OLB Bruce Irvin: West Virginia (6-3, 245)
    A gifted athlete who has the initial burst to routinely reach the edge. However, lacks ideal size and doesn't have a real sophisticated pass rushing repertoire. Is going to make the move to a 34 OLB at the next level and might need a little time. Reminds me some of the Chris Clemons.



    Lovie Seems to have an Interest in Him..................

    West Virginia prospect Bruce Irvin ditches burglary, drug game for shot at NFL



    By Les Carpenter | Yahoo! Sports – Tue, Apr 10, 2012 9:44 PM EDT



    MORGANTOWN, W.Va. – Bruce Irvin stood in a drug dealer's house, his gun tucked away, searching for money. It never occurred to him that this might not be the best idea; that somebody might be home, that he might even get shot. In his mind he thought only one thing: "I'm going to get paid."
    Bruce Irvin works out during the NFL scouting combine. (US Presswire)

    This is what Irvin's life had come to since dropping out of high school, when things started to go wrong and his mother threw him out of her home. By the end of the night he would be in jail, and it appeared likely he would be headed there again, or prison or something worse.


    Anywhere but on the verge of the NFL draft.


    Yet, here he is, sitting in a hotel lobby across the street from the football stadium at West Virginia where he played defensive end for two seasons, a likely second- or third-round pick in waiting.
    "I just lay in bed and think about life," Irvin says. "Me and my situation where I was – man I could write a book. It's just crazy. God had a plan for me."


    Bruce Irvin is not a religious man. He does not go to church. But sometimes things don't make much sense, like the robbery charge he avoided or the drug raid he missed or how sitting on a curb, his clothes stuffed in a garbage bag next to him, he found a mentor who would help guide him to the verge of the NFL.


    "He's the best story I've come across in years," says Ken Herock, a former NFL general manager who runs a program that prepares college players for their interviews at the NFL scouting combine.


    Growing up in Stone Mountain, Ga., Irvin attended Stockbridge High, a mostly-white school 20 minutes away. He had trouble adjusting to the different culture, and when he overheard his teachers talking about him in the halls wishing he would leave, he did. That broke his mother Bessie Lee's heart, and so she did the only thing she thought she could: She threw him out.
    If he was not going to school he would have to find his own way.


    "He got caught up in the hype of the street," she says. "Sometimes you have to pray." Says Irvin: "I was foolish, man. It takes some people longer to realize certain stuff than other people. You never want to go through that situation that I went through, but a lot of people who did that stuff wouldn't be doing this stuff today. I beat the odds. It showed me a lot of stuff: life is not just about getting money or having fun. I'm not going to take this one life I got and wreck it."

    And so he remembers dates, calling them out as if they are signposts appearing in the fog.

    May 23, 2007
    The day Irvin and two others broke into a drug dealer's house in suburban Atlanta. After dropping out of high school, he fell in with people who were tumbling like himself – the kind of people his mother warned him would "laugh at you when you are down and out."


    All rational thought was gone, though. He didn't much consider the consequences when he entered the home. Nothing mattered besides the money. He and two others robbed the house and escaped, not realizing that the person next door saw them and called the police.

    It didn't take long for Irvin to be arrested and hauled to the police station where he was charged with burglary and carrying a concealed weapon. Then he was thrown into jail where he sat for two-plus weeks.


    "I thought I was done," he says.


    He probably would have been done were it not for one fortuitous circumstance: drug dealers tend not to want to go to court and say, "Yes, that was my drug house that had been robbed." With no one to testify against him, Irvin was set free.


    "After that, I was done with the breaking in," Irvin says. But not with a life drifting out of control.


    There was no going back home. He didn't have a job and didn't want to go back to school. Deep down he knew he should be doing something better. Still, he was homeless, rolling from one couch to another, crashing with the same unsavory friends, eventually finding his way to a drug house where he settled in to live that fall.


    Nov. 13, 2007

    The day Irvin sat on a couch in the drug house, playing video games when a former player from Stockbridge High came to buy marijuana. The player remembered him, recalling the talent that went unfulfilled. Looking at Irvin, sprawled on the couch, a video game remote in his hands, the player shook his head.


    "What are you doing with your life?" he asked.
    Irvin didn't have an answer.
    Bruce Irvin sacks Norfolk State QB Chris Walley.

    Come to Atlanta, the player urged. He was going to Ware Prep Academy – a kind of last- chance place for high school athletes who had been in trouble. They had a football team. He knew people who could help Irvin out, get him playing football again. Irvin heard nothing after the word "football." He didn't consider how he could get into a prep school, what classes he would take, how he would pay for it. He just saw a path out of the life where he was. He threw everything he had into a trash bag and rode with the player to Atlanta.


    Irvin moved into the dormitory without ever enrolling in the school, happy to have a new place to live and the prospect of playing football again.


    Four days later, Irvin got a call from a man who had been living with him in the drug house. Police had raided the house a day after Irvin left. Everyone was arrested, including the man on the phone who was calling from jail.


    "God got you out of that house for a reason," the man said. "Go to school, live your dream and don't look back."


    Except there would be no school. The next day, the prep school closed – its owners worn down by a corrupt recruiting world. The dormitories cleared. Everyone stood out front, clutching possessions, leaving one-by-one as friends and family picked them up until only Irvin remained, sitting alone on the steps, his garbage bag beside him. That's when Chad Allen drove up.


    "Do you have anywhere to go?" Irvin remembers Allen asking. He shook his head no. And right there, on the steps of the shuttered prep school, he broke down.


    "I'm basically trying to get my life together," he told Allen.


    The two had met a few days before. Allen, a former player at Morehouse College, sensed something about Irvin that he liked. Unlike a lot of the other prep school kids, he listened. He seemed determined, desperate to get out of the life he had been living. He seemed to want to succeed.


    Eventually Allen had Irvin move into his home. They called Bessie Lee and told her where he was and then set about trying to get Irvin to school.


    "I can get you anywhere you want to go," Allen told him. "But it's not about football. You've got to prove you're committed."


    Allen told Irvin he needed to find a junior college to go to for academic reasons, that he had to research the GED exam, prepare for it and pass. If Irvin could get himself to a college and survive a semester, Allen would do everything he could to help. So Irvin found a place to take the GED. Then he studied.


    Dec. 12, 2007

    The day Irvin took the GED. More than a week later he learned he passed. Then he found Butler Community College in Kansas, and with the financial support of his mother and stepfather, who were delighted to see him in school, he enrolled the following January.


    "We did a lot of work [to pay for school] – a lot of overtime," Lee says. "We had to forgo some of our bills so he could pay his rent and eat. But you know how hard it was to watch him struggle? Why not have his back? I would have given my left arm to help him do right. He had a lot to give."


    Irvin's life at Butler was short-lived. Kansas has a rule limiting the number of out-of-state athletes who could be on teams. He had a good year academically but realized he'd have to go elsewhere if he was going to play football.


    Irvin returned to Atlanta that following summer to work out with Allen. Together the two looked for a junior college where Irvin could play. A friend at Butler was going to school at Mt. San Antonio in the Los Angeles suburb of Walnut. Irvin wanted to try there, but only three weeks remained before school was to start. Allen quickly made and printed a flyer with information about Irvin and sent along a workout tape.


    After everything Irvin had done to get this far, the last thing either of them wanted was for him to tumble backward. It worked.


    Irvin went to California where he played football for the first time in years. Even though he had been a running back and receiver growing up and does not have the natural body of a defensive lineman, the Mt. San Antonio coaches tried him at defensive end. A raw but promising pass rusher emerged, going from zero sacks the first season to more than 15 his second. This intrigued major college football coaches who flooded him with phone calls and mail.


    He visited Tennessee and accepted when the school offered a scholarship only to renounce the commitment later when coach Lane Kiffin left to go to USC. In a way, this was a blessing.
    "I wanted to go somewhere where they needed me as much as I needed them," Irvin says.
    When West Virginia brought him in to look at the campus, he knew it was home.


    "I wanted to come here and play right away," he says. "West Virginia saw me as the missing [piece of the] puzzle and I had 14½ sacks my first year so I became a fan favorite. You know what? This was the best decision of my life."


    On a Friday morning in mid-March Irvin stood inside West Virginia's indoor practice facility listening as NFL coaches and scouts barked instructions. "Cut left!" "Go right!" "Hands up!" "Run in place." More than 30 teams had come to West Virginia's pro day and this was an important chance for Irvin to show he's worth a high draft pick.


    Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin and the Chicago Bears' Lovie Smith stood nearby as did several defensive line coaches – a sign of real interest.


    "Show us you want to be a first-round pick!" one shouted as Irvin moved through an agility drill.
    When they were finished, Smith and Tomlin both approached as did a few of the scouts, some who asked him to re-tell "his story." When he was finally done, he laughed nervously. So many questions. So much speculation.

    "I've never been taught how to pass rush, but I've had 40-some sacks in three seasons – all of that is on natural ability," he'd say two days later. "I feel like I have a lot of upside and with a lot of coaching the sky is the limit."


    March 18, 2012

    The day he got arrested, again. A silly thing perhaps: misdemeanor charges of destruction of property and disorderly conduct. According to the police report, Irvin knocked a magnetic Pita Pit sandwich shop sign off the top of a delivery car. He was arrested when the driver said the sign was damaged.


    Irvin will not discuss the incident publicly, even to correct an erroneous report that he had shattered a sign inside a Jimmy John's shop. The most he has said came two days after his arrest when he posted on his Twitter account: "If u honestly believe I would blow my chances destroying jimmy johns after all the hard work I put in to get in my situation ur crazy!"


    Does the arrest matter? Should it? Irvin has 11 visits scheduled with NFL teams, two of which actually came to Morgantown to see him. This seems to indicate the league remains interested.
    Sitting in the hotel lobby, Irvin slowly nods his head. Around him, people are scurrying to beat a morning checkout. He smiles. Despite the pending misdemeanor charges, he seems to only be staring into the future.


    "I beat the odds and I did what I said I was going to do," he says. "I left the house. I got back in school. [I got to] junior college, and when I got to the junior college I said I was going to go to a Division I school, and when I got to a Division I school I said I was going to kill it and go in the draft. I did what a lot of people said I wasn't going to do. A lot of people wrote me off and said I couldn't do those things [and those] are the same people who hit me up on Facebook and Twitter today."


    He laughs again.


    "Adversity – I live by that word," he continues. "I faced a lot of adversity. I feed off that type of stuff."


    So remains one more date: April 27, 2012. This is the second day of the NFL draft – when Rounds 2 and 3 will be held. While the first round was always too long a shot for the player who never should have been here, the second and third are not.


    That alone should make him the story of the draft.
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    Connecting Quinton Coples and the Bears

    An unexpected fall last year left the Detroit Lions with one of the most celebrated players in the draft. Defensive tackle Nick Fairley had once been considered a potential No. 1 overall pick, and the Lions were thrilled to draft him at No. 12. Now I'm wondering if an NFC North team could benefit from another fall by a talented defensive lineman.

    There are no recent red flags on North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples, but the public discussion surrounding him includes some of the same work-ethic related keywords that have led to recent drops by Fairley and others. Speaking to several ESPN.com bloggers at the scouting combine, ESPN analyst Todd McShay said there were times when Coples stood up in games and "appeared to have a union deal." More recently, McShay said on his Draft Minute video series that there are times when Coples "is the best defensive player in the class" and there are others when "you watch him and say, 'Man, he's mailed it in.'"

    Pass rushers are at such a premium that teams are willing to overlook some flaws to get the kind of presence Coples brings with his 6-foot-6 frame and 81-inch wingspan. It makes you wonder if a team like the Chicago Bears, whose needs at defensive end we have well-discussed, wouldn't be an ideal fit. Coples would have an All-Pro in Julius Peppers to attract most offensive attention, and he would have one of the league's top defensive line mentors in coordinator Rod Marinelli to keep him pushing forward.

    ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. ranks Coples as the 14th-best player in the draft, and it would require a significant fall for him to still be available when the Bears pick at No. 19. But if he gets out of the top 10, as it appears he might, it wouldn't be a terrible idea for the Bears to consider trading up to get him.

    The Sports Science video gives you an idea of how imposing Coples is as a pass disruptor even if he doesn't get past the line of scrimmage. Check it out.
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    Matt Bowen; Five Very Coachable Prospects.................

    NFL Draft: Five prospects I would love to coach


    5. Quinton Coples, DE, UNC: Watching Coples on the field at the Senior Bowl practices, there is no question he has skills. Speed and strength off the edge. But he’s not playing in the ACC anymore. For the UNC product to get to the QB on Sundays, you have to coach multiple pass rush moves and develop his hands at the point of attack. The talk that he will take plays off? Don’t allow it—and that starts in practice. I’m thinking of a practice structure that is similar to Lovie Smith’s in Chicago. His defensive players run to the ball and pursue on every play in every drill—or they don’t see the field. Make him work and play at NFL speed. Force him to be accountable. Plenty of talent here, and if he lands in the right system he should be an impact player as a rookie.
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    Quinton Coples is a Freak....

    Although I posted this elsewhere the video that goes along with this article is a must see for anyone who doubts what a physical freak this guy is and just how imposing he could be as a player if he gets to the right team and can get motivated to play to 100% of his capabilities. If he does this guy will be one scary DE.

    Connecting Quinton Coples and the Bears


    April, 12, 2012 Apr 12

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    By Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com



    An unexpected fall last year left the Detroit Lions with one of the most celebrated players in the draft. Defensive tackle Nick Fairley had once been considered a potential No. 1 overall pick, and the Lions were thrilled to draft him at No. 12. Now I'm wondering if an NFC North team could benefit from another fall by a talented defensive lineman.

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    Pass rushers are at such a premium that teams are willing to overlook some flaws to get the kind of presence Coples brings with his 6-foot-6 frame and 81-inch wingspan. It makes you wonder if a team like the Chicago Bears, whose needs at defensive end we have well-discussed, wouldn't be an ideal fit. Coples would have an All-Pro in Julius Peppers to attract most offensive attention, and he would have one of the league's top defensive line mentors in coordinator Rod Marinelli to keep him pushing forward.

    ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. ranks Coples as the 14th-best player in the draft, and it would require a significant fall for him to still be available when the Bears pick at No. 19. But if he gets out of the top 10, as it appears he might, it wouldn't be a terrible idea for the Bears to consider trading up to get him. (Trading up for a high risk player simply increases the risk and costs you the possibility of another productive player you may have gotten with the pick you traded away. It's good thing Seifert isn't an NFL personnel guy or if he was I wish it could be for the Packers. Apparently Seifert went to the same GM school Matt Millen went to)

    The Sports Science video gives you an idea of how imposing Coples is as a pass disruptor even if he doesn't get past the line of scrimmage. Check it out.

    You guys gotta see him in this video. He's scary.

    Sport Science - Quinton Coples - ESPN Video - ESPN
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    April 6, 2012 Kiper predicting Bears will draft Illini end

    By: Larry Mayer | Last Updated: 4/6/2012 10:03 AM




    In his latest mock draft posted this week, ESPN analyst Mel Kiper Jr. is predicting that the Bears will select Illinois defensive end Whitney Mercilus with the 19th pick in the first round.


    Whitney Mercilus
    “Quick off the edge, Mercilus utilizes great anticipation and some natural gifts as a pass-rusher, with closing speed and long arms once he has the quarterback in sight,” Kiper writes. “He's coming off a brilliant final season for the Illini, and Rod Marinelli could do wonders with him. The Bears could use some pass-rushing insurance with Julius Peppers not getting any younger.”

    Kiper also believes that the Bears will choose LSU receiver Rueben Randle in the second round (50th overall).
    The Bears have seven picks in the 2012 draft, one in each round. In Rounds 3-7, they have the 79th, 111th, 150th, 184th and 220th selections.
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    Noooo. Winston Mercillus has bust written all over him. He's a one year wonder.

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    This must be spam week here at DaBears.com so I thought I'd just spam one thread instead of the whole site.

    Since Windy keeps coming up with all kinds of nifty ways to figure out how we'll take a WR in the first round I thought it only fair the I put an equal amount of content up that supports my position.

    There are a few articles here from the writers and gurus but most of all I'd like you all to pay attention the the one which says, "Lovie has made is no secret that he's looking to improve the pass rush this offseason".

    Did we try? YES TWICE. So did we succeed? NO How many times did we fail? TWICE Does that sound like we're really serious about drafting one then? I DON"T KNOW SOUL BUT I"D PROBABLY SAY YES. Are there a couple of good ones in the first round? YEAH, I GUESS SO.

    Has Lovie gone to Mercilus pro day and also interviewed him? YES Is Mercilus a DE/Pass Rusher? YES

    Did Lovie got to WVU to watch Bruce Irvin work out and interview him? YES Is Irvin a DE/Pass Rusher? YES

    Did Lovie invite Chandler Jones in for an interview? YES Is Jones a DE/Pass Rusher (but not a very good one) YES

    I don't know about you guys but the word on the street is that Lovie is interested in pass rusher. Does it seem like that to you guys too?

    Well I'm one of those people who say, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, lays eggs, has webb feet, swims around ponds and eats little fishies then I usually admit that it's probably a freakin duck!!!!!

    If there are still good pass rusher on the board when we draft we will not take Stephen Hill, Kendall Wight or Michael Floyd with our first round pick unless they can carry at least 260lbs and learn to sacks QB's.

    That's my story and I'm stickin' too it.
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    Mercilus sure looks better than Coples. I'mw arming up to Mercilus. Saw some of his game filma nd he is fast and strong and I like the way he tries to create turnovers. He could fit well. It takes some time for some talented players to develop so I wouldn't fear taking a guy who just exploded onto the scene last year. His last season was better than any Coples put together.

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