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Originally Posted by
WindyCity
The buzz is that the Vikings are going to pass on Kalil.
I know this won't happen and I valued Forte as a mid 1st round pick.
It is fun to think about though.
We are not getting a first rounder for Forte. No team will trade a first rounder for a RB who has that big of a workload in his career.
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Originally Posted by
BigBadPapaBear
The importance of the OL vs. RB is irrelevant. What is important is the kind of value that Forte has, given he's already an established player in the NFL. He's an All Pro runner that does it all. The Bucs can give up #4 for Forte and lesser rd pick. The Bears would hurt themselves by throwing Forte in just to move up 15 spots. Such a deal would be up there with the Thomas Jones trade, in terms of all timke Bears blunders.
No, the importance IS relevant...you build a team in the trenches, OL and DL...and our OL is sub-par and NEEDS fixing.
And the kind of value Forte has is a swapped 1st rounder + a 3rd round pick.
Forte is replaceable..especially since we have Marshall and Bush.
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Personally, I would look to trade up into the top ten to get Riley Reiff. He is the only other offensive lineman in the draft who analysts will say can come in and start off as a LT. He would immediately improve our offensive line and force Webb out as LT and into a swing tackle role.
Trading up to about the seventh-to-tenth spot might guarantee that we don't have to trade away our #19 pick in the draft, and we might actually get to draft someone like Mercilis or Coples at that position should one or both of them be available. Most likely, though, we won't seek to trade up to the top ten and we will stick with the 19th pick as well as possibly trade the second round pick plus the fourth round pick up into the late first in order to draft a wide receiver. One way or another, by hook or by crook, I expect that within the first three rounds, we will see the Bears solve the problem at DE and WR once and for all.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
Trading up to about the seventh-to-tenth spot might guarantee that we don't have to trade away our #19 pick in the draft,
I don't see how we could trade up in the draft at all without including our 19th pick.
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Originally Posted by
Papa Bear
I don't see how we could trade up in the draft at all without including our 19th pick.
Could it be that if we traded Forte and a second round pick plus maybe one in a future draft, we could gather an additional first round pick?
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The problem is that the Bears do not see the OL as a need. The fans do, but we don't make the calls.

Originally Posted by
Jimmors
OL is much more important position then RB.
This trade would make sense because not only would address our biggest weakness (OL) for some time to come (most likely), we have a replacement for Forte in Bush. Will Bush be as productive as Forte? Probably not, but id do this deal in a heartbeat.
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Im not saying i think it will happen but a forte for a first deal is possible by all means
Never know who could jump on the chance for a back whos value and image is inflated becuse of him being our only weapon
If the deal involves a first do it and let him be someone else's problem
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Without even reading farther I'll just say that if there is little if any likelihood that Matt Forte will accept the last offer the Bears gave him, and still have on the table, then I see little hope for a quick resolution and more chance of this dragging on into the summer months.
No matter what he says now I do believe he will sign his franchise tender in July and come to camp. He's already out a ton of money from not getting an extension last year and I don't believe he'll fore go weekly paychecks of nearly $500k this fall. The real problem comes from the fact that he will continue to be a resentful unhappy camper and personally I don't think we need Matt Forte's negativity around when we're trying to win a SB.
If a team will offer us the equivalent value of a #20 2012 first round pick for him I would do the deal in a heartbeat. I would not trade up with any other picks unless it was to get a guy like DeCastro or Coples and even then I wouldn't burn more than 3rd round pick which should get us to around #15 or a 3rd and another future pick to get to around #10-#12. I would not trade up a farther than that and then only for a very specific player. IMHO the real values in the first round start after #15 and even drafting at #19 and again in the low to mid 20's we'll have a number of very good players to choose from.
Matt Forte can't go anywhere in 2012 and as I said I think the chances of him holding out are very very slim. So we're not in a position where we have to trade him but as draft day approaches his value will go up and if we can maximize that in a trade for a 2012 1st round pick to fill another hole I think we need to think about it very seriously. We can win without him and the thought of adding a top pass rusher and a LB, CB, or an OG with picks later in one or high in two if we trade back to me more than make up for losing a him. JMHO.
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#19 + Forte is not enough to get #5 + #114
it's more like 19 + Forte + our 4th for #5
I'd do it
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Id rather use him to try to move into the 6-12 range maybe go after decastro,couples or flloyd
Its got a snowballs chance in hell of happening though i think if we could move him for a mid first round pick it would be a good move