Thread: LB McIntosh to visit Bears

Originally Posted by little bear

Rocky McIntosh to visit Chicago Bears, sources say - ESPN Chicago



He's a much better fit for the Bears 4-3 defense than he was in the 3-4 Skins defense. He'd be a great pickup. I worry about how thin we are at LB after our older players, Urlacher and Briggs. I'd be sick to see our season tank due to a failure to add solid depth at LB. It's an "accident waiting to happen" just like the Cutler debacle last year. Depth can make or break your season. We learned this the hard way.

Yeah lb, we've actually been after this guy for years so he must be a good fit for our defense. Seems to me I remember the Bears trying to get him included in a trade we trying to make with the Skins some years back. Good guy to have as a SLB or a backup to Urlacher. I hope we sign him.

You covered his pro career and here's what his scouting report said about him coming out of college. The guy has been a top ranked competitor his entire career. I'm wondering why Washington let him go unless there's an injury problem and his play suffers now because of it. When you read this report you can see why Lovie would like him on his team. He's got the kind of athleticism and cover skills he likes.

Might be an upgrade over Roach and surely as better backup prospect at MLB than DeCicco. Not having any experienced backup behind Urlacher makes me nervous. Hilly was a great backup there when we had him but we've never replaced him and maybe that's what this is about. This seems like another one of those Emery moves to add insurance depth just like Campbell and Bush were.

Roger McIntosh
Washington Redskins	Outside Linebacker	Round 2 (35)	Miami
Stength: Roger McIntosh, also known by Rocky McIntosh, has near ideal athleticism and speed for a linebacker. Roger McIntosh has the athleticism to play outside linebacker and the intelligence to play middle linebacker. Roger McIntosh can more than adequately stuff the run, chase the run, cover zone, cover man to man, and blitz the quarterback. Roger McIntosh was consistently productive against top college football competition while playing for Miami. Roger McIntosh is a full effort, tough player in practice and in games.
Weakness: Roger McIntosh didn't show any spectacular physical features or athletic gifts at the combine and predraft workouts, save his vertical leap. Roger McIntosh has a good frame, but he may need to carry more weight to handle NFL size players. Roger McIntosh has had a little trouble with getting pushed out of his lanes on good cutbacks and well-disguised reverses.
Development: Roger McIntosh was drafted much later than he should have been for a guy who is ready for the move to the NFL and has all of the necessary tools to be a top notch NFL outside linebacker. That is not to say that Roger McIntosh doesn't still have a lot of technique to work out before the season begins. And, Gregg Williams schemes could leave his head spinning a few weeks into the season. But, Rocket McIntosh is ready to step in as a starter and blast off on a strong NFL career at some point this year. He has plenty of college experience at the highest level, abundant intelligence and desire to learn, and a good work ethic. Roger McIntosh shouldn't have to worry too much about the competition. Robert McCune is a physical beast with the best speed on the team at linebacker, but has only special teams experience in the NFL. Warrick Holdman has had a solid career, but was the defense's weak link in 2005. Chris Clemons could win the starting job with a great training camp, but more likely battling for an active roster spot. Roger McIntosh should take the starting outside linebacker job before the year is over, but at the least will be in the linebacker rotation because of his mental and athletic versatility.
Fantasy Football Rating: Roger McIntosh should be above average statistically when he becomes a starter, similar stats to what Marcus Washington and Lemar Marshall put up in 2005.
Typecast Outlook Opinion: Ready to play. 85% chance of succeeding in the NFL. 60% chance of being a Pro Bowl player.

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Originally Posted by VJ18

McIntosh would be a GREAT addition, loved his play in Washington when he was in the 4-3, im just curious how were paying for this. I smell a forte trade coming

I think some of those articles about us having just a few mil of cap space left are subtracting the rookie reserve from the $8-$10 mil I had it at a while back. Take a $4 mil reserve away from $8 mil and it comes close to that $3.8 mil number I recall a few weeks ago. The thing is the rookie contracts don't count against the cap until the deals are signed so we have time to free up more space.

This would be a very nice pick-up. If I recall, we were considering him off the Washington squad as a trade back a few years ago when Briggs was threatening the first time. He would push VERY hard for the starting SAM spot and as stated above would be an excellent back-up to Urlacher, especially since Lacher is coming off that bum knee.

Go ahead and sign him up Phil. Actually, this and the Rachal signing are very nice (if this in fact goes through) right before the draft. The stock of each could go up marginally after the draft for those teams that lose out on middle round targets. Grab them while you can, knowing you can cut them later if you get what you target in the draft.

If Emery and Lovie think he can do a job for us then I hope we can sign him. It's the April pre-draft "white sale" for left over FA's. This is where the bargains come from not that first week. These guys are now one or two year signings for short dollars. They've been out there for over a month now with no serious offers so they're signable.

Guys like McIntosh and Rachal came out of college as high picks and a guy like Emery has certainly had some experience scouting and evaluating them before. Maybe they were guys he liked when they were drafted but his team wasn't in need or a position to take them. It's vet depth or competition in camp on a budget and sometimes you get real lucky.

We've gotten decent play out of some of these types. Jennings, Okoye, Toeaina, Spencer and even Garza some years ago. These guys were all picked up from somebody else in the offseason and all have played starting roles and done fairly well. You don't get All Pros at this point in FA but you don't pay them like All Pro's either. It's hard to argue with the fact that an experienced vet pickup at this time is as least as good and better prepared to play now than a mid to late round draft pick or UDFA.

Originally Posted by WindyCity

The Bears recently worked out free agent LB Geno Hayes.

Hayes has experience in a defensive scheme like Lovie Smith's, having played in Raheem Morris' Tampa 2. The Bears have worked out a flurry of veteran linebackers this week, also including Rocky McIntosh, Zac Diles, and Bryan Kehl.

Well here's the poop on Hayes. A little undersized but has a good rep as a player from his college days. Starter for the Bucs his last two years and most importantly played in a similar defense which his college scouting report emphsizes as being an importand contributor to his potential success in the NFL. Nothing astounding but seems like a solid player.

Emery is progressively finding ways to upgrade our depth. If there was one major area where I feel we have lagged behind the Packers recently it's this. We could always match up reasonably well with them on the field but there bench strength was so much better. Hell those guys helped them win the 2011 Super Bowl.

Atempts to upgrade areas of need with vet depth makes a ton of sense to me. We take better care of the now this way and then draft some youth to develop for the future in competition with these guys. This is actually a more interesting time during FA than those first 10 days to two weeks when all the big dogs go. This is where the bargains are.


Geno Hayes Scouting Report

Position:	ILB
Conference:	ACC
School:	Florida State Seminoles
Year/Status:	Drafted
Jersey Number:	#10
Height & Weight:	6'1 - 226 lbs.

Drafted 6.9 in 2008 by TB

2008 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
Geno Hayes, ILB, Florida State

There is little doubt about Geno Hayes' ability on the field. As a junior during the 2007 campaign, the linebacker tallied 80 tackles, 17.5 tackles for loss, five sacks and an interception. When he was healthy he was the most dominating player on the Florida State defense. Hayes is a superb athlete who can put on the big hit and his quickness makes him a great sideline-to-sideline player. He has the skills to drop back in coverage and that versatility projects him to play the inside or outside linebacker spot. However, there are some concerns on and off the field. Hayes is a little undersized for the NFL and measured in at just under 6-1 at the combine. He will often run around blockers and lacks the strength to run through them. A career filled with injuries will also keep some teams away, but it is the off the field issues that will likely drop Hayes down to the middle rounds of the NFL Draft. He has had a couple run-ins with the law and the most recent was just resolved prior to the combine with the dropping of all charges. At the combine Hayes showed off his quickness and natural abilities, but the interview process was the most important. If teams believe his off-field issues are behind him, Hayes has the talent to be a third round selection. Hayes was also one of the many involved in the Seminoles academic scandal prior to this year's bowl game. Hayes has the skill and versatility to be a valuable linebacker in the right system. By the fourth or fifth round any team who was sold during the interview process would be happy to have his versatility on their team.


Last Updated Mar-28-2008 by Joel Welser



Geno Hayes #54 LB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Official Team Site
Height: 6-1 Weight: 226 Age: 24
Born: 8/10/1987 Greenville , FL
College: Florida State
Experience: 4th season
High School: Madison Co. HS [Madison, FL]


TCKL
64

SCK
0.0

FF
2

INT
1




Combine 2008
Combine
Stats:

• 40 Yard Dash4.64 Secs

Strengths

Positives: Smaller than scouts would prefer, but has a compact athletic build. ... Reads his keys and generally diagnoses the play quickly. ... Attacks the line of scrimmage versus the run, showing the closing speed to make tackles behind the line of scrimmage. ... Good agility to avoid blocks and shows good pop with his hands to disengage. ... Rare straight-line speed. ... Flexible athlete who can change directions in coverage and break down in space to make the tackle. ... Generally a reliable tackler who flashes explosiveness in his hitting. Negatives: Lacks the size scouts prefer at the position. ... Lacks upper body strength to take on blockers and can be pushed back if engaged properly. ... Relies too much on his agility to avoid blocks. ... Will duck his head to generate the big hit and slide off tackles at times, rather than wrapping up securely. ... Over-aggressive attacking the line of scrimmage, and can be beaten by good

Tampa Bay Buccaneers








Geno Hayes #54 LB
Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Official Team Site
Height: 6-1 Weight: 226 Age: 24
Born: 8/10/1987 Greenville , FL
College: Florida State
Experience: 4th season
High School: Madison Co. HS [Madison, FL]


TCKL
64

SCK
0.0

FF
2

INT
Combine

Recent Games more
WK	OPP	RESULT		Tackles					Interceptions						Fumbles
				Comb	Total	Ast	Sck	SFTY	PDef	Int	Yds	Avg	Lng	TDs	FF
15	DAL	L 15-31		5	4	1	0.0	--	0	--	--	0.0	--	--	1
16	@CAR	L 16-48		3	2	1	0.0	--	1	--	--	0.0	--	--	0
17	@ATL	L 24-45		3	0	3	0.0	--	0	--	--	0.0	--	--	0

Career Stats more
Season	Team			Tackles					Interceptions						Fumbles
		G	GS	Comb	Total	Ast	Sck	SFTY	PDef	Int	Yds	Avg	Lng	TDs	FF
2011	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	16	13	64	45	19	0.0	--	2	1	8	8.0	8	0	2
2010	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	16	16	82	72	10	4.0	0	6	1	41	41.0	41T	1	1
2009	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	15	13	98	80	18	3.0	--	6	2	21	10.5	20	0	1
2008	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	9	0	13	10	3	0.0	0	1	--	--	0.0	--	--	0
TOTAL				257	207	50	7.0	0	15	4	70	--	41	1	4