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    NFP Mock v7.0......Now it Gets Down to the Nitty Gritty................

    It's still Mercilus in one but Brockers goes just one pick before at #18 to the Chargers. Coples is long gone at #12 to Seattle and DeCastro never gets by the Cowboys at #14. Looks like we can begin a poll as to who likes Brockers over Mercilus or vice versa. Either way it comes out we get ourselves a good ball player.

    Mock Draft 7.0


    The draft starts at pick four, which direction do the Browns go? Wes Bunting

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    1. Indianapolis Colts: Stanford QB Andrew Luck
    With a week left until the draft, Luck still looks like the guy.


    2. Washington Redskins: Baylor QB Robert Griffin III
    RG3 is the kind of athletic quarterback that would be an ideal fit in the Washington offense. He can make plays outside the pocket, throw on the run and create second lives with his legs.
    ICONThe Browns have a tough decision on draft day.


    3. Minnesota Vikings: Southern Cal OT Matt Kalil
    Quarterback Christian Ponder has shown flashes in year one, but he needs to stay healthy. Therefore, bringing in the top offensive tackle prospect in the draft who has a chance to mature into a Pro Bowl-caliber lineman seems like an easy selection at three.


    4. Cleveland Browns: Alabama RB Trent Richardson
    With the top two quarterback prospects off the board, the Browns could opt for the safest offensive threat in the draft. You have to be able to run the football in the AFC North to have a chance and Richardson gives Cleveland that workhorse-type back.


    5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: LSU CB Morris Claiborne
    Tampa Bay has done a great job over the past two drafts improving the overall talent along its defensive line. Therefore, adding a playmaking corner who can capitalize on all the potential pressure is a must for this defense to take that next step.


    6. St. Louis Rams Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon
    Getting a big-play receiver for quarterback Sam Bradford is almost a must at this point. Blackmon can line up all over the offense and has the skill set to produce as a rookie.


    7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd
    Is there a team in the NFL in more need of an upgrade at the wide receiver position than the Jaguars? This might be a bit high for Floyd. However, he’s got the talent to make plays on all levels of the field and fills a major need for the Jags at a position of major need.


    8. Miami Dolphins: Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill
    The Dolphins have received pretty average quarterback play over the past couple seasons and adding a talent like Tannehill who has the skill set to mature into a franchise QB could be too good to pass up at eight.


    9. Carolina Panthers: Memphis DT Dontari Poe
    The NFL Combine helped Poe as much as anyone. He’s a massive kid with an elite combination of power, explosion and upside. His tape isn’t great, but I think he’s now a lock for the top 15.


    10. Buffalo Bills: Iowa OT Riley Reiff
    Reiff is an athletic tackle with good range off the edge, natural change of direction skills and has the ability to sit into his stance on contact. He needs to get stronger and fill out a bit more. However, this former tight end recruit has the type of athleticism and demeanor to mature into the kind of blind side protector the Bills are looking for.
    ICONIt will be interesting to see where a talent like Coples falls.


    11. Kansas City Chiefs: Boston College ILB Luke Kuechly
    With the need at offensive tackle addressed in free agency the Chiefs can now look at one of the safest players available in the front seven. Kuechly is a tackling machine with good size, natural instincts and above-average athleticism. Is the kind of talent who can make an impact inside from day one.


    12. Seattle Seahawks: North Carolina DL Quinton Coples
    The Seahawks have a real unique blend of athletes on the defensive side of the ball and because of that it makes me think Coples would be able to fit right in and fill a number of roles at both DT and DE. Plus, Pete Carroll seems like the kind of coach that could get the most out of Coples’s talent.


    13. Arizona Cardinals: South Carolina OLB/DE Melvin Ingram
    Ingram has the ability to play with his hand on the ground or rush off the edge from a two-point stance. He’s a sudden pass rusher with natural change of direction skills, long arms and could offer some talent and versatility to the Cardinals defense on third down.


    14. Dallas Cowboys: Stanford: OG David DeCastro
    The idea of drafting an athlete like DeCastro and potentially playing him next to 2011 first-round pick Tyron Smith at left tackle has to sound mighty intriguing.


    15. Philadelphia Eagles: Mississippi State DT Fletcher Cox
    Cox is the kind of potential three-technique who can create behind the line of scrimmage and stop plays before they start. The Eagles don’t have a huge need at DT, but Cox could still mature into a playmaker inside, at a position where Philly lacks an impact guy.


    16. New York Jets: Alabama OLB Courtney Upshaw
    Upshaw is a thick, powerful kid who can line up all over the Jets 34 front and get after the passer. He’s got the power to win consistently on contact vs. both the run and pass game and would be the kind of “NFL ready” prospect the Jets would love to get in the middle of round one.


    17. Cincinnati Bengals: Alabama CB Dre Kirkpatrick
    Kirkpatrick adds a physical element to the Bengals secondary. He’s got the ability to press off the line, make plays in zone and consistently tackle the ball carrier. Plus, he has the size to handle some of the bigger wideouts in the AFC North.


    18. San Diego Chargers: LSU DT Michael Brockers
    Brockers is as talented as any defensive lineman in the draft and is capable of maturing into a real game changer up front. He’s got the ability to play all over the Chargers defensive line early and offers them a lot of versatility in their 34 front.


    19. Chicago Bears: Illinois DE Whitney Mercilus
    The Bears love to go defense in round one and getting a talent like Mercilus in the middle of the first has to be considered a steal. There are some rough spots to his game, but he adds another pass rushing threat to the Bears defense on third down.


    20. Tennessee Titans: Georgia OL Cordy Glenn
    Glenn is a powerful body who can maul defenders in the run game and more than hold his own inside vs. the pass. A potential Pro Bowl-caliber option at guard who should be an ideal power player for the Titans.
    ICONMartin could be a first round surprise.


    21. Cincinnati Bengals: Boise State RB Doug Martin
    Martin is one of the “hot” names right now and has really done a nice for job himself all post-season. The Bengals could use some youth at the running back spot and Martin is an ideal fit for the physical NFC North.


    22. Cleveland Browns: Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden
    If the Browns are unable to get their QB in the top ten, don’t be shocked to see them take their second pick in round one and nab their QB of the future.


    23. Detroit Lions: Ohio State OT Mike Adams
    As long as quarterback Matthew Stafford is healthy the offense is going to score points. Therefore, bringing in an athlete capable of protecting his blind side is becoming a major need in Detroit.


    24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Wisconsin OL Peter Konz
    Konz has the ability to play both center and guard at the next level and gives the Steelers a real upgrade inside.


    25. Denver Broncos: Penn State DT Devon Still
    He’s not the most dynamic of pass rushers. However, he’s a big, strong kid with a good get off, long set of arms and knows how to play the run. He’s a potential anchor inside who can push the pocket and give the Broncos a guy they can win with inside.


    26. Houston Texans: Baylor WR Kendall Wright
    Wright might be the draft’s top vertical threat and has the ability to open up a lot of options for the Texans offense down the field.


    27. New England Patriots: Alabama SS Mark Barron
    New England has had to piece together their secondary this year, but in terms of talent they could certainly use an upgrade at a number of spots. Barron is a smart, instinctive safety with good ball skills, can play in the box and be effective bumping/running with tight ends underneath.


    28. Green Bay Packers: Boise State LB Shea McClellin
    He’s got the ability to play both inside and out for the Packers and brings the kind of motor, intensity and relentless as a pass rusher they are looking for.


    29. Baltimore Ravens: Alabama ILB Dont’a Hightower
    Hightower is a “plus” run defender who can be used as a blitzer inside or a pass rusher off the edge. Is the kind of talent the Ravens could use inside as an eventual replacement for Ray Lewis.


    30. San Francisco 49ers: Georgia Tech WR Stephen Hill
    Hill is going to need to become a more consistent route runner. However, at 6-5 he showcases some natural short-area quickness to his game and knows how to go up and get the football vertically. He’s one of the draft's elite size/speed combos at the receiver spot and his stock is on the rise.


    31. New England Patriots: Southern Cal DE/OLB Nick Perry
    Perry has worked out well all post-season and is a versatile 43 DE or 34 OLB prospect who could line-up all over. His versatility on third down gives the Patriots even more options in pressure situations.


    32. New York Giants: South Carolina CB Stephon Gilmore
    Getting a tall, physical defensive back who displays a natural feel in zone and can go get the football makes some sense for the Giants at the back end of round one.
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    I'd honestly think of double dippin on DL in the first two.

    Round 1: Michael Brockers
    Round 2: Bruce Irvin
    Round 3: Juron Criner or Marvin McNutt
    Round 4-7: BPA with some OL and CB's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi66 View Post
    I'd honestly think of double dippin on DL in the first two.

    Round 1: Michael Brockers
    Round 2: Bruce Irvin
    Round 3: Juron Criner or Marvin McNutt
    Round 4-7: BPA with some OL and CB's
    If rounds one and two went just like that I'd think we'd have done well for ourselves. Irvin may be a bit of a reach in two but he may not last until our third and I'd sure like to see what the guy can do playing in the NFL at 250-260lbs. I'm thinking a little like Javon Kearse in his early days. Another pass rush freak.

    The nice thing about Brockers is that you could move him around whereas Mercilus is pretty much slotted to being a RDE in the Bears offense. We could use a guy with that kind of flexibility this year. Then you have three guys who can play inside or out to create mismatches in the pass rush.

    As far as WR's go I'm a bigger fan of Toon or Jones if we dip into the WR pool in three of four. Naturally I've got a soft spot for my Badger guy but because his dad was a good NFL WR I think the pedigree is there along with some talent. The kid has built in coaching to help him make the transition to the pros from a guys who's done it.

    After that I want a Punter a Place Kicker and developmental QB, and a Long Snapper in rounds 4-7..................or BPA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    If rounds one and two went just like that I'd think we'd have done well for ourselves. Irvin may be a bit of a reach in two but he may not last until our third and I'd sure like to see what the guy can do playing in the NFL at 250-260lbs. I'm thinking a little like Javon Kearse in his early days. Another pass rush freak.

    The nice thing about Brockers is that you could move him around whereas Mercilus is pretty much slotted to being a RDE in the Bears offense. We could use a guy with that kind of flexibility this year. Then you have three guys who can play inside or out to create mismatches in the pass rush.

    As far as WR's go I'm a bigger fan of Toon or Jones if we dip into the WR pool in three of four. Naturally I've got a soft spot for my Badger guy but because his dad was a good NFL WR I think the pedigree is there along with some talent. The kid has built in coaching to help him make the transition to the pros from a guys who's done it.

    After that I want a Punter a Place Kicker and developmental QB, and a Long Snapper in rounds 4-7..................or BPA.
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    Yeah honestly if we went Toon or Jones over the other two I wouldn't mind, just a receiver in general being targeted in that range is fine with me. Yeah I figured he wouldn't be around in 3 so that's why I had him in the second, I think it's a slight reach but Lovie adores him and being added to a rotation with Idonije handling most run situations would give us a hell of a rusher on passing downs. Imagine him and Peppers with their ears pinned back against Rodgers on those third and longs they always seem to convert.*

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    WR in two if not one. Quick could work out nicely in our system another buf target for jay

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    It seems to be pretty evident that we're not going to focus any of our energies at all toward the upgrading of our offensive line in the first few rounds. In that case, Mercilus is the guy I want in the first round if I can't have Coples, who WalterFootball.com and now NFP.com are both projecting for him to go several picks ahead of us. I'm perfectly fine with Mercilus; you don't just put up those numbers in college unless you are seriously good at what you do, and he is certainly dominant. You have to remember that in Coples' junior year, I think he only got ten sacks in comparison to what Mercilus got in his junior year, and that was in a far more inferior football conference in the college ranks than the one in which Mercilus competed (the Big Ten + Two).

    Potential be damned, I think one is just as likely to bust as the other, but if I had to pick which one I would rather have based on track record of playing his tail off, I'd rather have Mercilus. At least that way, if he flops, he's more likely to be looked upon more fondly than the way Coples would be should he be a bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    It seems to be pretty evident that we're not going to focus any of our energies at all toward the upgrading of our offensive line in the first few rounds. In that case, Mercilus is the guy I want in the first round if I can't have Coples, who WalterFootball.com and now NFP.com are both projecting for him to go several picks ahead of us. I'm perfectly fine with Mercilus; you don't just put up those numbers in college unless you are seriously good at what you do, and he is certainly dominant. You have to remember that in Coples' junior year, I think he only got ten sacks in comparison to what Mercilus got in his junior year, and that was in a far more inferior football conference in the college ranks than the one in which Mercilus competed (the Big Ten + Two).

    Potential be damned, I think one is just as likely to bust as the other, but if I had to pick which one I would rather have based on track record of playing his tail off, I'd rather have Mercilus. At least that way, if he flops, he's more likely to be looked upon more fondly than the way Coples would be should he be a bust.
    Why Dags I thought you southern boys thought EVERY conference was inferior to the SEC. Sorry but I couldn't let that slide.
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    Why Dags I thought you southern boys thought EVERY conference was inferior to the SEC. Sorry but I couldn't let that slide.
    Well, there is a strong superiority complex down here when it comes to football, but basketball? Not so much. But when you take into consideration the SEC has won the past six national championships, it's hard not to think that way. In basketball, it's (nearly) always a three to four horse race between Kentucky in the first place slot, and teams like Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama looking to finish second. The Big Ten is a far superior conference in basketball than is the SEC, but where we have you beat is football. In recent years (up until last year, as a matter of fact), the only Big Ten school that year-in and year-out could compete in the SEC and fare well was Ohio State. If Wisconsin (dear ol' "Wisky" to Buckeye fans such as myself, who follow UT and OSU football and Kentucky basketball), Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska can continue building their programs, the Big Ten can get back to its past glories. Part of the problem I've been told by my best friend, who is a former Ohio State University engineering student, is that majority of the high school talent in the Big Ten states want to go south to play in better weather. Apparently, it's not the thing anymore to want to play when it's cold weather; hence, why teams in Southern California, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Alabama, and Florida traditionally do so well.

    I don't know what you think about all that or if any of this is true. Some of it seems a little bit like Jimmy "The Greek" talk. I do know that the greatest concentration of football talent in the Big Ten states are in the states of Ohio and Pennsylvania. Illinois and Michigan get honorable mentions, but do you ever really see the Fighting Illini win with any consistency, or a Michigan or Michigan State squad that has more Michigan student-athletes than ones from the state of Ohio? It's really crazy. Wisconsin and Iowa grow some big ass offensive linemen prospects, but Indiana is like Kentucky in that it's almost strictly basketball-laden in terms of talent. In fact, one of the players Kentucky recruited and who started on this season's NCAA Championship team came out of Indianapolis (Marquis Teague). And Nebraska? That school gets most of its players from the state of Texas.

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    I take Brockers or Mercilus or Coples

    Really, I don't care who we get out of those 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post

    I don't know what you think about all that or if any of this is true. Some of it seems a little bit like Jimmy "The Greek" talk. I do know that the greatest concentration of football talent in the Big Ten states are in the states of Ohio and Pennsylvania. Illinois and Michigan get honorable mentions, but do you ever really see the Fighting Illini win with any consistency, or a Michigan or Michigan State squad that has more Michigan student-athletes than ones from the state of Ohio? It's really crazy. Wisconsin and Iowa grow some big ass offensive linemen prospects, but Indiana is like Kentucky in that it's almost strictly basketball-laden in terms of talent. In fact, one of the players Kentucky recruited and who started on this season's NCAA Championship team came out of Indianapolis (Marquis Teague). And Nebraska? That school gets most of its players from the state of Texas.
    Yeah and some of them are even men.

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