Thread: Bears Could Have a Steal in Troy Left Tackle James Brown

Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox

Not quite that good, but 2 sacks 7 hurries in five games there in '09 and one in his 1.5 games there in '10.

Thanks, bud. I thought you said eleven, but apparently I was wrong. At least you corrected me, which you are good at.

Do you think he would stand a chance at taking the LT position away from Webb in a competition in Training Camp? It would seem to me that there might be a rust factor involved there since it's been two years since he played LT. Somehow, though, I just don't see Tice budging from his belief that Webb is the second coming of Jesus Christ at left tackle, so I fear that we'll never see a contest between them.

Just an insertion about James Brown. From what I've been reading they intend to have him add some bulk and move him to OG. The word from the scouts is that the believe he can add another 20-25lbs of muscle and bulk without it affecting his athleticism.

I think one of the reasons he wasn't drafted where he may have been projected to go is that few saw him as an OT and as an OG he lacked the desired size and strength most teams want at that spot. Like I said before right now he's a project not a prospect who could compete for a starting job. But he fits into Emery's strategy of finding kids with athleticism and good football skills.

He needs to be looked at as a contribution to rebuilding the line through the draft or with rookie FA's. Even mid round picks usually go through a process of learning to play at an NFL level and he's roughly the equivalent of that.

Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox

I think he NEVER EVER EVER should have been moved from LT in the first place, so that tells you a lot about my expectations for him there. At this point, though, moving him yet afuckingain is beyond frustrating. I wouldn't necessarily mind it, but it's time to pin his position down and establish us a franchise he wants to stay with next offseason, because at the very least we have a potentially tremendous impact LG.

I agree with you, man. He was drafted in the first round to be a LT, and that's where he should have stayed. We didn't pick him up to be a LG; he's simply too big in my opinion to play that position, while he's a perfect size for a LT.

My question is why did Tice move him to LG in the first place? Putting OMG in at LT was the dumbest mistake anyone's ever made. I don't understand why he didn't put Lance Louis or Edwin Williams at LG, you know, because they were more natural fits for the position. I don't consider Tice to be that great of an offensive line guru, to be honest with you, because have seriously mismanaged our resources to the point that there is no defined chemistry long the line because of the constant state of flux.

Originally Posted by BigBadPapaBear

The one good thing about moving Chris Williams to G was that we found out that he can really move and is a far better run blocker than we realized. So at least we got to see that he has some ability to play somewhere on the line. The wrist injury was unfortunate but hey at least he has not had any recurring back problems. They really need to have him somewhere in the starting lineup in 2012.

That's the understatement of the century, BBPB! lol. But yeah, you're definitely correct. He is a major anchor and talent on that offensive line - he is one of the two most talented offensive linemen we have, with the other being Carimi. Garza is good too, but I think much of his reputation has been earned over a period of years along a stud C in Olin Kreutz.

You read what kroniksox said: he thinks that he should have never been moved from LT. In six and a half games, he gave up a total of 2 sacks and, I think, about 7 hurries. (The 7 hurries came in 2009, so I don't really know what he had in 2010 when he played his one game at LT.) That is better than Webb ever dreamt of being. Webb does a lot of things bad besides give up sacks - he commits a lot of stupid penalties like false starts and holds. He would be serviceable as a swing tackle, but nothing more.

Originally Posted by bearsinhouston

Webb has more hurries than almost any other active lineman -- if you count when he has to hurry chasing the DE's that have gone past him.

I don't know a lot about the techique of offensive linemen, but I know it has to do a lot with hand punches and footwork. If Webb is so athletic, why can't he make the simple adjustments with his feet and be able to fend off opposing five-technique players at DE and ROLBs in the 3-4 defense? Personally, I think the guy is a true clutz. If, by the off week, he is still struggling against oncoming pass rushers, he needs to be removed from his position.