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    I'd think the pre-season will be the first test. Those of you who remember how bad things looked in the 2010 pre-season but were then told to ignore it then later the Giants debacle beginning of the reg season.
    I fully expect that this line will struggle in the first game or two of preseason just because Tice and Holt will be looking to straighten things out in the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    I'd think the pre-season will be the first test. Those of you who remember how bad things looked in the 2010 pre-season but were then told to ignore it then later the Giants debacle beginning of the reg season.
    The main difference this year shorty is that they'll have an entire offseason with these guys as far as getting them prepared. The blocking schemes will be simplified as Tice has already indicated. Martz had something like 84 pass blocking schemes alone so no wonder they looked confused at times.

    I think the other factor in addition to simplifying things for them will be the level of competition in camp. This isn't a handful of vets with a bunch of rookies vying for backups spots this is a whole bunch of vets with NFL starting experience knocking heads with one another for 5 starting spots and if we can assume that Garza and Carimi are untouchable then it's really 3 spots with about at least 6 or 7 guys competing for them. Nobody want to lose out since a being a backup Olineman means the only time you'll see the field in game is if somebody gets hurt. You don't rotate guys in and out like you do on the Dline.

    Among the 9-10 vets who will be competing with one another in camp there are 3 former 1st round picks and a high 2nd round pick in addition to the usual collection of mid and late round picks and UDFA's and every single one of these guys has been an NFL starter at least part of their careers. Even if you don't believe in the overall talent ya' gotta like the experience they bring to the table.

    These guys may not be all-pros but I believe they're gonna look a whole lot better right from the start than they did last year and next spring we won't be quite so down in the mouth over nothing having been done about the Oline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    The main difference this year shorty is that they'll have an entire offseason with these guys as far as getting them prepared. The blocking schemes will be simplified as Tice has already indicated. Martz had something like 84 pass blocking schemes alone so no wonder they looked confused at times.

    I think the other factor in addition to simplifying things for them will be the level of competition in camp. This isn't a handful of vets with a bunch of rookies vying for backups spots this is a whole bunch of vets with NFL starting experience knocking heads with one another for 5 starting spots and if we can assume that Garza and Carimi are untouchable then it's really 3 spots with about at least 6 or 7 guys competing for them. Nobody want to lose out since a being a backup Olineman means the only time you'll see the field in game is if somebody gets hurt. You don't rotate guys in and out like you do on the Dline.

    Among the 9-10 vets who will be competing with one another in camp there are 3 former 1st round picks and a high 2nd round pick in addition to the usual collection of mid and late round picks and UDFA's and every single one of these guys has been an NFL starter at least part of their careers. Even if you don't believe in the overall talent ya' gotta like the experience they bring to the table.

    These guys may not be all-pros but I believe they're gonna look a whole lot better right from the start than they did last year and next spring we won't be quite so down in the mouth over nothing having been done about the Oline.
    Yep, yep, that's all good in the hood. My only qualm is if the starters don't at least flash signs of definite improvement or get posterized by the 2nd stringers. Should be able to show some solid work at least for a half before looking at the other guy on the roster.

    So they have all these things going for them plus Tice's resounding endorsement. We'll see if it's enough.
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    That's all we can do is hope to see better. Emery brought in a little more help but the only real hope for improvement comes from within. The Bears believe Tice can make his offense work with this bunch so we shall see what we shall see.
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    Tice has the opportunity to either make himself look like a sage or look like a fool. He really is taking a big risk by stating that he believes in this offensive line as it stands. If he's right and the line plays well, he stands to look like a genius. But if he's wrong and the line struggles, he's going to possibly be out of a job or, at the very least, Emery is going to force him to admit that he needs better linemen to be able to run the offense.

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